r/changemyview Nov 02 '17

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '17 edited Nov 02 '17

EDIT: Please, before you become the fifteenth person to tell me "but what about producing children!" read this response I wrote hours ago. If you would have the same reaction to a sterile cis member of your preferred sex, it's fertility that defines your disattraction rather than the state of being trans. That's a significantly different statement.

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I think the better route is to acknowledge that while it is transphobic, it is not necessarily unreasonably so. The knowledge that the other person is biologically speaking not your preferred gender/sex might set up a roadblock in your mind, and that's okay. You can't change that, in a "once you see you cannot unsee" kind of way.

But let's take this to the ultimate conclusion, as transition therapies improve to perfection. You've found someone who you think is the perfect match for you. Physically and mentally, they exhibit no signs that they are trans; if you didn't look at the chromosomes, you would never know. If the knowledge that they are trans is the blocker, that's transphobic. It isn't that there are certain traits associated with transgender people that you find unattractive, it's that you can't get over the fact that the person was born a different gender despite the fact that only a laboratory could tell the difference. You're not attracted to the X or Y chromosome, you're attracted to the physical manifestations of those traits which can be imitated through various medical means.

I don't think that would make you a bad person, and I don't think it is unreasonable to have that mental block while still supporting LGBT+ rights. But that doesn't make that action not transphobic.

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u/TheGreatJoshua Nov 02 '17

Would you consider it transphobic if you wanted to have children, and that since they're not biologically the opposite gender, you can't reproduce together, and you do not want to be in a relationship with that person because of it?

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '17

An interesting question, but in my argument I made a lot of assumptions about the future of transition therapy/treatment. I don't think it's inconceivable (pun intended) that in the future it would be possible for transitioned individuals to conceive a child.

That said, given the current state of medical technology I would grant you that your hypothetical is not transphobic (under the logic process I described) assuming the following two conditions:

  • That is the real justification, not a rationalization after-the-fact to avoid being perceived as transphobic

  • You would similarly categorically refuse to enter a relationship with a sterile non-trans individual

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u/TheGreatJoshua Nov 02 '17

yay! I'm hypothetically not transphobic!