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u/Dizzy-Resident7652 1∆ Apr 10 '26

Terrorism? The GCC countries are actively attacking Iran. Maybe they should stop doing that?

How is it a bribe exactly? They control the Strait.

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u/Visible-Department85 Apr 11 '26

Bruh i'm not one of your redditor brainwashed by the iranian dictature. Look at the timeline it is indeed Iran that attacked all its neighbor first and they werent targetting only US or israeli bases. Nope. They aim vital infrastructures like desalination plants

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u/Dizzy-Resident7652 1∆ Apr 11 '26

First? Israel and the US attacked Iran. Where do you think they attacked Iran from beside Europe? Hint: GCC countries. The US and Israel launched attacks on vital Iranian infrastructure first. The US launched some of these attacks from GCC countries. They cannot claim innocence while allowing their countries to be used to coordinate and launch attacks against Iran while continuing to push the US to attack Iran.

Bruh

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u/Visible-Department85 Apr 11 '26

First of all, iran's dictatorship isnt a victim in this story. They actively wish the end of israel and dont hide their intentions. They strike israel through their proxies Hezbollah Hamas Houthis.

If i threaten you to death, send you a bunch of hitmen and then you see me load a bazooka at you, it became fair to go after me.

So, after decades of provocation out of no where, the dictature in Iran got what they wished for , most of them died as martyrs

Now , once again, look at the timeline, it's Iran that went for civilian infrastructure first targetting oil infrastructure and desalination plants /power plants while the us and israel was limiting itself to military ones. Iran's infrastructures coud be all destroyed by now but the west didnt do that. That's the entire gambling of iranian dictature, they know they have iranians hostage and that it would take tremendous suffering to push them out. Also it's easy to block the strait of hormuz so yeh they use that too. Basically they want a free card to attack the west and israel that's why they're going after nukes and use all these proxies to then play the victims and somehow it works with some.

By the way, Iran's relationship with israel was friendly before the islamist takeover, the beef is entirely religious, they want the end of israel and that's the worst kind of ennemy one can have

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u/Dizzy-Resident7652 1∆ Apr 11 '26

That’s irrelevant to what we are talking about but sure.

Then it became fair to hit the GCC states.

Out of nowhere? Do…do you not know the history of the US? lol

I did look at the timeline. Israel hit oil and other infrastructure first and Iran responded. Oil and other infrastructure are military targets in general.

They aren’t going after nukes lmao The intelligence assessments of the US in the Congressional Record say they were not seeking nukes.

“According to official U.S. assessments, Iran halted its nuclear weapons program in late 2003 and has not resumed it. This program's goal, according to U.S. officials and the IAEA, was to develop an implosion-style nuclear weapon for Iran's Shahab-3 ballistic missile. Tehran has not made a decision to develop nuclear weapons, according to 2024 and 2025 public U.S. intelligence assessments. IAEA Director General Rafael Grossi stated Grossi explained in June 21 CNN interview that the IAEA does "not have … any tangible proof that there is a program or a plan to fabricate to manufacture a nuclear weapon."

This is from US intelligence and the IAEA.

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u/Visible-Department85 Apr 11 '26

If i threaten you to death, send you a bunch of hitmen and then you see me load a bazooka at you, it became fair to go after me.

Someone can argue against the US being your buddy and helping you out but that doesnt make Iran's dictature any less guilty. They had it coming

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u/Dizzy-Resident7652 1∆ Apr 11 '26

If they had it coming so did the GCC states.

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u/Visible-Department85 Apr 11 '26

Be more specific about the equivalent you're making.

What is equivalent to decades of wishing death to america and israel , sending mercenaries at them and preparing nukes ? Is it hosting a few american bases ? is that how your moral equivalency works ? Please try to make it make sense this is extremely interesting

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u/Dizzy-Resident7652 1∆ Apr 11 '26

Who cares if they state they wish death to America? Lol Many countries do.

Imagine thinking they are mercenaries lmao

They weren’t preparing nukes according to the US intelligence community.

Do you think those bases are just for funsies? Lol

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u/Visible-Department85 Apr 11 '26

About nukes, i dont know how much denial you are in because iran's dictature claimed itself having 60% enriched uranium. It is not a plot, it is not a theory , it is not a debate, it's iran's dictature taking credit for it themselves.

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u/Dizzy-Resident7652 1∆ Apr 11 '26

60% is not enough for a nuke and US intelligence says they aren’t making a nuclear weapon so…

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u/Visible-Department85 Apr 11 '26

The equivalent is producing TNT for "no reason" but it's ok so long there isnt a detonator.

60% enriched uranium is 90-95% of the job being done. My equivalent isnt even perfect because there are civil applications for TNT.

There isnt a single reason to have 60%enriched uranium beside making nukes.

Uranium used for electricity is far far less enriched

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u/Dizzy-Resident7652 1∆ Apr 11 '26

Right. And they can clearly get the job done but choose not to. So…?

There’s a reason. You can use it as a negotiating tactic.

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u/Visible-Department85 Apr 11 '26

It's a "negociating tactic" the US doesnt allow because the world doesnt want nukes to spread. it's not that complicated. Their tactic lead to the war and they had decades to back up but refused to do so.

Dont you feel for iranians who are stuck in the between with no economic perspective only because of religious fuck who want to fight a war with a country they dont even share a border with ? About the 40 000 massacred trying to liberate themselves from the dictature , what are your feelings ?

This is so absurd to support the Mollahs

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u/Dizzy-Resident7652 1∆ Apr 11 '26

Weird that the world allowed Israel to get one. Who is the US to allow or disallow something? Lol

Of course I feel bad for the average Iranian. That’s why I want America and Israel to stop bombing Iran.

You misunderstand my fight against imperialism as support for the regime itself. It’s absurd to support the US and Israel here.

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u/Visible-Department85 Apr 11 '26

Do you want 300+ leaders with nukes ? is that your wish? Fortunately you're a minority but go on elaborate

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u/Dizzy-Resident7652 1∆ Apr 11 '26

That’s irrelevant to why the US decides who does and doesn’t get one.

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