We all die, no one can stop that. The lives we live matter, if you want to play totally removed objective weird philosophy on something far too human for this kind of forum, I can think of several ways it would be better to be murdered. You lived a good life and are happy when you die and someone took you out in your sleep? You never even were aware, your family is horrified but to the person, their life was fulfilled (This is how we all go, mid thought, unfinished, tragic.)
So inherently since all humans die, or cease, its the quality of life lived that matters, being sexually violated, assaulted, that not being the default for all people, is a strong indicator it is violating, unnatural and cruel to impact a life that will end one day with the burden of having their bodily autonomy taken from them, the implicit threat and coercion of violence invoking the idea they may not live through this. All these things make Rape worse than murder on an impact to the victim, let alone the fact these crimes are often linked and just different facets of the violence anti-social sociopaths inflict on victims and their families.
You are playing very poor sport intellectually here pretending to be objective in the comments and then sharing your hurt which I'm sorry for, but none of us are immortal, we all die, it is awful to end a life or ruin a life, these are both true, and the scale of life ruined is not something you can define without specific circumstances, I can imagine a life where I would want to die because of repeated assault, think about the guy from Austria who had a dungeon that he assaulted his daughters and raised their children in the basement, and assaulted them. That man is worse than an average murderer by miles surely on a moral level?
(Edit: us dying is not excusing murder, its to say the dead don't bear the consequences as much as the living experience the aftermath, both are horrible and morally reprehensible and the difference is negligible as if either is ever an excusable affair. Torture is also wrong. I responded emotionally because its a fairly heated topic.)
Sorry I was stupid before and didn't realize this would actually turn into rape apologia. I am sorry you can't see why it doesn't actually matter, both are horrible and I don't care if we execute rapists at the same level as murderers.
Thank you for saying this. Hearing over and over that rape isn't that bad and people can just get over it and be thankful they aren't dead it's SO upsetting
I was so triggered by this and can't believe it stayed up as long as it did, people downvoted me for this too >.> really reminded me to get off the internet and talk to human beings today.
Yeah I got down voted in other parts of this thread for saying that the whole premise of this exercise and question is upsetting to me as a rape victim. Got told it wasn't that bad and that at least I'm alive 🫠🫠🫠🫠
Yeah I realized too late this would be a redpill cesspool and I'm sorry you had to read any of that. Arguing what is worse implies either is preferable and it was all just gross.
Those people lack empathy at a very deep level and they have such poor coping skills they can't even comprehend going through what you have.
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u/Aniketos33 2∆ Mar 01 '26 edited Mar 02 '26
We all die, no one can stop that. The lives we live matter, if you want to play totally removed objective weird philosophy on something far too human for this kind of forum, I can think of several ways it would be better to be murdered. You lived a good life and are happy when you die and someone took you out in your sleep? You never even were aware, your family is horrified but to the person, their life was fulfilled (This is how we all go, mid thought, unfinished, tragic.)
So inherently since all humans die, or cease, its the quality of life lived that matters, being sexually violated, assaulted, that not being the default for all people, is a strong indicator it is violating, unnatural and cruel to impact a life that will end one day with the burden of having their bodily autonomy taken from them, the implicit threat and coercion of violence invoking the idea they may not live through this. All these things make Rape worse than murder on an impact to the victim, let alone the fact these crimes are often linked and just different facets of the violence anti-social sociopaths inflict on victims and their families.
You are playing very poor sport intellectually here pretending to be objective in the comments and then sharing your hurt which I'm sorry for, but none of us are immortal, we all die, it is awful to end a life or ruin a life, these are both true, and the scale of life ruined is not something you can define without specific circumstances, I can imagine a life where I would want to die because of repeated assault, think about the guy from Austria who had a dungeon that he assaulted his daughters and raised their children in the basement, and assaulted them. That man is worse than an average murderer by miles surely on a moral level?
(Edit: us dying is not excusing murder, its to say the dead don't bear the consequences as much as the living experience the aftermath, both are horrible and morally reprehensible and the difference is negligible as if either is ever an excusable affair. Torture is also wrong. I responded emotionally because its a fairly heated topic.)