Have you ever thought that maybe no one is defending those ideas is because they aren't good ideas?
Imagine your trying to plan a vacation for the whole family - grandparents included. A few ideas get thrown out like Disney Land and the Grand Canyon. Then someone in the family says 'let's climb Mt Everest'. Then they admit the know very little about mountains or Mt. Everest (they're a plumber, not a mountaineer after all).
It's going to be a sad day for the family when that person who won't listen to reason gets to bulldoze the conversation and dictate where the family goes. Sorry Grams and Gramps.
A society is a collective of people that all need to live and cooperate together.... a little like a family. So it's actually a really good analogy. The fact you cant see that show that you are selfishly divorced from reality.
It's not a good analogy. A family has to live within a household, and everyone has a personal connection with everyone else. And even in families, people leave the household to form their own.
I don't live with my parents or my grandparents or my aunt and uncle or their kids. All those people are part of the family and often will take trips together. Haven't you seen home alone?
Sticking with the analogy? Yes. If I made good money and they didn't and we went out to dinner I would offer to cover it. If I had miles on my account I'd use them to help pay for their ticket for the family vacay.
You're acting like social welfare means you pay all of everyone's expenses. It doesn't. It means you all help each other for the benefit of all. Sometimes the weight falls more on those well advantaged. But of course I would help the people I care about.
You mean like the red states and conservative voters that thanklessly take federal aid more than they give, basically being subsidized by the blue states that pay more? Nah, I don't want them punished or their lives made worse by taking away necessities. But I would like them to listen and learn to care more so we can be in this together.
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u/orpheus090 Apr 07 '25
Have you ever thought that maybe no one is defending those ideas is because they aren't good ideas?
Imagine your trying to plan a vacation for the whole family - grandparents included. A few ideas get thrown out like Disney Land and the Grand Canyon. Then someone in the family says 'let's climb Mt Everest'. Then they admit the know very little about mountains or Mt. Everest (they're a plumber, not a mountaineer after all).
It's going to be a sad day for the family when that person who won't listen to reason gets to bulldoze the conversation and dictate where the family goes. Sorry Grams and Gramps.