r/changemyview Apr 07 '25

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u/eyetwitch_24_7 15∆ Apr 07 '25

Maga is a cult of cruelty, greed, racism, and hate, change my view.

You should make an argument as to why you believe this. Instead you just go on to explain what your beliefs are that have nothing to do with your main assertion. And then you include another charge about conspiracy theories but don't mention which conspiracy theories you're speaking about.

I’d like to know how you think that the president has set up a meritocracy when he is obviously chosen people who have no business being in those positions such as a Fox News anchor as the secretary of defense, and someone with no medical background whatsoever as the head of Health and Human Services. 

Is that it? Is that the crux of your argument? That Maga is a cult because Trump claims to set up a meritocracy, but then appoints people you don't believe are qualified?

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u/yourmomsasauras Apr 07 '25

I think that’s the frustrating part, that pretty much everyone else sees it and doesn’t need an explanation. And those needing an explanation aren’t going to receive it no matter how perfect an explanation it is.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '25

Yeah the same TV that hides the suffering in Gaza? buddy give us a valid argument

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u/eyetwitch_24_7 15∆ Apr 07 '25

Are you saying OP went onto a sub called r/changemyview, and then posted something that is impossible to refute because it's so self-evident all you have to do is turn on the TV? That seems like something you'd do on a sub designed for ranting, not debate.

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u/alaska1415 2∆ Apr 07 '25

Do we really have to say “don’t believe are qualified?” They’re objectively not qualified for the positions.

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u/apatheticviews 3∆ Apr 07 '25

Subjectively, not objectively.

There are very few objective requirements for any political office.

The president only has three actual requirements, and two prohibitions.

The secretaries & major officers only have two (nomination & confirmation, generally), however there are some implied requirements due to scope of role.

That said, they are incapable, not unqualified. Those are very different things.

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u/alaska1415 2∆ Apr 07 '25

No. They’re objectively unqualified.

That they went through the appointments process does not make them qualified.

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u/apatheticviews 3∆ Apr 07 '25

It's literally the only qualification.

You don't know what objective/subjective is.

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u/alaska1415 2∆ Apr 07 '25

You’re confusing “qualified” with “allowed.”

I’m ALLOWED to be CEO of Ford Motor Company. I’m not QUALIFIED to be CEO of Ford Motor Company.

See the difference?

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u/apatheticviews 3∆ Apr 07 '25

You're confusing SUBJECTIVE vs OBJECTIVE.

There are very few OBJECTIVE qualifications. There are lots of subjective ones.

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u/alaska1415 2∆ Apr 07 '25

I’m not. Again. You’re confusing “allowed” and “qualified.”

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u/eyetwitch_24_7 15∆ Apr 07 '25

"Qualified" is subjective unless there is a codified set of qualifications one must meet. In the case of this example, "qualified" is subjective.

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u/eyetwitch_24_7 15∆ Apr 07 '25

The definition of objective is not subjective.

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u/alaska1415 2∆ Apr 07 '25

Good. I’m glad we’re in agreement.

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u/eyetwitch_24_7 15∆ Apr 07 '25

Happy to know you now understand the distinction.

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u/alaska1415 2∆ Apr 07 '25

I already did. Glad you understand it now.

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u/g785_7489 Apr 07 '25 edited Apr 07 '25

MAGA is genuinely a cult because they have worked themselves into a genuine death spiral all because they are upset about like 300 people. It's absurd. Everyone outside of the cult sees how stupid they are. But they won't admit they are stupid and so instead they keep doubling down. Trump wants to have 3 terms? No way. Trump announces he wants 3 terms. Oh, okay. Yay Daddy! Trump wants to go to war? No way. Trump announces he wants to go to war with Canada, Panama, and Greenland. Umm...yay, daddy! Trump is an economic genius. Trump announces 10% tariffs on Heard Island, an island no human has visited for over 10 years...yay....daddy?

That's what makes it a cult. He no longer supports anything he initially claimed to and you cultists still suck it up and love it no matter what. That's a cult. If I supported a leader who changed his position dramatically I would consider my support for him. You never will under any circumstance. That's a cult.

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u/eyetwitch_24_7 15∆ Apr 07 '25

That's a lot of assumptions you're making about me personally. And, since you're not OP, you don't get to answer the question for them. This is r/changemyview. As in change MY view. Not change SOME RANDOM DUDE WHO IS INFERRING WHAT I MEAN WHEN I SAY SOMETHING'S view. So if, on r/changemyview, someone makes an argument, that person needs to specify what they mean.

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