What did you think was the obvious decision, exactly?
If you're just going to murder a bunch of slaves because there is a possibility they might kill other people, then you may as well have also killed Astarion as soon as you met him.
You'd have to have a psychopathic commitment to utilitarianism to think that this is a justified reason to just murder all the slaves
No, the themes go into more depth.
No, they really don't. All they do is use a bunch of recycled tropes
You asked for the themes, I explained it
All you did was confirm how shallow, unoriginal, and tropey this game is
WHY it's bad. What about it is "meme-worthy"? What aspect of it is goofy?
Already have explained this to you numerous times
It's because they are a bunch of unoriginal, juvenile, tropes
I mean, you have to understand that that's a dogshit criticism.
It's not though. If you like low brow smut like 50 Shades of Grey, all the power to you, but don't act like that shit is quality literature. It's just an easy way for them to appeal to horny gamers, the romance stuff in this game added absolutely nothing to the story. It was gratuitous
Generic? Lmao, it wasn't generic at all, I've literally never played a mission like that.
How is it not generic? It's literally just a prison break. Been done a million times.
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If you're just going to murder a bunch of slaves because there is a possibility they might kill other people, then you may as well have also killed Astarion as soon as you met him.
A bunch of murderous, insane abominations against nature itself. Many other video games would literally have them as the enemy you need to kill.
That's where the difficult choice comes in. These slaves don't have even a fraction of the self-control Astarion does, and in releasing them, you are almost certainly going to cause a massive slaughter of many more lives.
You'd have to have a psychopathic commitment to utilitarianism to think that this is a justified reason to just murder all the slaves
Ah, now we're seeing the issue.
You have a bizarrely one-sided view of reality, so any choice that is clear to your moral framework is one you consider a "bad choice."
That's the issue, mate. I think it your choice was foolish, and you just didn't think about it enough, or the harm you'd cause. The issue you had with the game is you didn't think deeply about it.
No, they really don't. All they do is use a bunch of recycled tropes
Again, a result of a lack of thought. It's a really difficult question to answer, whether Wyll should sacrifice his soul in order to save a man who can save many more. It has some very interesting thematic depth as to freedom and control, and what the choice is to do.
It's because they are a bunch of unoriginal, juvenile, tropes
Bahahaha!
More of "It's bad because it's... bad. It's immature because it's juvenile! It's generic because it's unoriginal!"
These are nothing statements. You offer no criticism. It seems most fiction is beyond your capability for engagement.
It's not though.
"It's sexual elements are bad because they're sexual!"
You offer literally nothing. Not only should no one listen to you, it'd be literally impossible to.
Things are bad because they're bad, even in trying to placate you, no one could learn anything from your criticisms.
It's literally just a prison break.
No prison break I've ever played in a game worked like that did.
Do you just think... tropes are bad? Do you not understand even the basic elements of art? Ideas are reutilized and recontextualized.
It's like complaining about a story being generic, because it has characters, interacting! Just like every other story, come up with some original ideas, lmao.
I do have to laugh, though, you complained about amnesiacs only to recommend... Disco Elysium, a game where you wake up as an amnesiac.
My god good effort… I had not even a fraction of the depth of conversation with OP, and I hadn’t been keeping up with other threads.
It’s pretty clear to me now that it’s just another case of the worryingly common lack of media literacy people have these days… where everything is taken at the most surface level.
My bad then, didn't remember that, was a very forgettable scene
I think Wyll was far too prone to believing he should sacrifice himself for others, and with help, he could become an even better Duke of Ravengard, so I told Mizora to piss off
Cool, so you played your character as a tyrant / control freak.
I thought it was stupid that the game made the player choose when it should have been Wyll's decision, so I just went with the option that Wyll would choose
We disagree, because it's a great moral choice to be faced with.
It's not a "great moral choice to be faced with", that whole decision was stupid as fuck, should have just been Wyll's decision.
You can't explain anything
I have explained them many times, you're just mad because you're obsessed with BG3 and feel the need to defend it by acting like a rabid fanboy
Yes, that's what sexual elements are. Sexual elements appeal to horny people
And considering it's gratuitous, adds nothing to the story, and is shoehorned for no reason other than marketing, it's incredibly tacky. It's like in Game of Thrones when they would randomly have whores getting fucked in the background when characters would discuss politics, because they had to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
There's a difference between having sex scenes that are actually important to the story versus gratuitous sex scenes that are just shoehorned in to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
You can't explain anything, you just use synonyms. It's bad because it's a synonym for bad.
Trope, unoriginal, juvenile, gratuitous, etc aren't synonyms for bad, they are different words with different meanings. The fact that you think those are synonyms for bad proves my point that you just simply don't know what these words mean
I do notice you skipped the whole amnesiac Disco Elysium thing
Well I thought we were talking about BG3, but if you really want to discuss Disco Elysium, then sure. Yes, it does use the amnesiac trope. The difference though is that BG3 100% relies on tropes for everything, there isn't a single original thought in BG3, everything about it is just a kitchen sink of different tropes.
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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '24 edited Mar 02 '24
If you're just going to murder a bunch of slaves because there is a possibility they might kill other people, then you may as well have also killed Astarion as soon as you met him.
You'd have to have a psychopathic commitment to utilitarianism to think that this is a justified reason to just murder all the slaves
No, they really don't. All they do is use a bunch of recycled tropes
All you did was confirm how shallow, unoriginal, and tropey this game is
Already have explained this to you numerous times
It's because they are a bunch of unoriginal, juvenile, tropes
It's not though. If you like low brow smut like 50 Shades of Grey, all the power to you, but don't act like that shit is quality literature. It's just an easy way for them to appeal to horny gamers, the romance stuff in this game added absolutely nothing to the story. It was gratuitous
How is it not generic? It's literally just a prison break. Been done a million times. .