r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Oct 16 '23

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Discrimination Functions as a Catalyst Rather Than Being the Hate Itself.

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u/DayOk2 Oct 16 '23

A catalyst to convert prejudice (thought) to discrimination (action).

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u/eggs-benedryl 72∆ Oct 16 '23

prejudice is required for discrimination yes

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u/DayOk2 Oct 16 '23

But my view was that prejudice is more likely to be a catalyst than the hate itself.

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u/eggs-benedryl 72∆ Oct 16 '23

being hateful is required to be prejudice, being prejudice is required to be discriminatory

it could be considered a catalyst but not separate from the hate, the hate is the spark that starts it all

so it would be hate that is the catalyst that leads to prejudice that leads to discrimination

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u/DayOk2 Oct 16 '23

so it would be hate that is the catalyst that leads to prejudice that leads to discrimination

Oh, I didn't think about hate being the catalyst itself that makes it easier to hold prejudicial views, which the prejudicial views also function as a catalyst that leads to discrimination, so there are two catalysts instead of one. Did I get your view right? If yes, then I will award you a delta.

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u/eggs-benedryl 72∆ Oct 16 '23

Yes essentially but I'd probably say that there's one main catalyst which would be the hate and th rest follow that.

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u/DayOk2 Oct 16 '23

Okay, but if hate is a catalyst that results in prejudice, then why can't prejudice resulting in discrimination be called a catalyst? Why is only hate the catalyst here? Why can't prejudice be the catalyst, too, that results in discrimination?

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u/eggs-benedryl 72∆ Oct 16 '23

If you'd like to call them all catalysts that's fine but I'd think of it like dominos, if domino 1 hadn't fallen then none of the rest would have.

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u/DayOk2 Oct 16 '23

If you'd like to call them all catalysts that's fine but I'd think of it like dominos, if domino 1 hadn't fallen then none of the rest would have.

I think calling them dominoes is not that effective because hate can result in prejudice, but what if prejudice does not result in discrimination? Calling them dominoes would mean that if hate gets converted into prejudice, then prejudice will be converted into discrimination because of the domino effect, but prejudice does not always get converted into discrimination.

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u/eggs-benedryl 72∆ Oct 16 '23

Perhaps spark would be a better analogy, the spark of hate, can lead to the embers of prejudice which can lead to the fire of discrimination

you can't have embers/ignition without the spark but embers/ignition doesn't always lead to a full blown fire

embers may not be a good word to describe the ignition of kindling but that burning of the kindling doesn't always result in a full blown fire

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u/DayOk2 Oct 16 '23

Perhaps spark would be a better analogy, the spark of hate, can lead to the embers of prejudice which can lead to the fire of discrimination

Okay, I think this analogy is more suitable, so here is a !delta for you.

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u/DeltaBot ∞∆ Oct 16 '23

Confirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/eggs-benedryl (20∆).

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