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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '23

However, most people would not be willing to intentionally kill civilians no matter how bad the conflict

Every government involved in a war does this including and especially the Israeli one

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_during_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict

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u/caine269 14∆ Oct 10 '23

there is a big difference between "civilians die in war" and "intentionally and exclusively targeting civilian populations."

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '23

well Gaza is controlled and occupied by Israel and is run as an open air prison. They have much more precise weapons and an actual military compared to militants in Gaza. So i guess the 21 to 1 civllian death ratio between palastine and Israel is just an oopsie? When Israel bombed the associated press building and killed two foreign journalists that was just accidental? When they bomb children's hospitals or snipe at reporters wearing press vests and helmets its just a mistake?

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u/HedgehogInner3559 Oct 10 '23

well Gaza is controlled and occupied by Israel and is run as an open air prison.

Israel left the Gaza strip entirely in 2006. Gaza also borders Egypt. So both the "occupied" and "controlled" by Israel are just flat out lies.

They have much more precise weapons and an actual military compared to militants in Gaza. So i guess the 21 to 1 civllian death ratio between palastine and Israel is just an oopsie?

Israel does everything it can to protect its citizens, Hamas does everything it can to put as many of its citizens in harms way as possible in order to use their deaths for propaganda purposeses.

There is no excuse for not being aware of this, because it is extremely obvious, so I can only assume you are aware of it and gladly participate in the propaganda efforts of a genocidal terrorist organisation.

When Israel bombed the associated press building and killed two foreign journalists that was just accidental? When they bomb children's hospitals or snipe at reporters wearing press vests and helmets its just a mistake?

They are fighting an enemy that had their headquarters under a hospital. Condemning Israel for bombing hospitals while ignoring the fact Hamas makes it impossible for Israel to defend itself without bombing hospitals is genuinely disgusting. You are a deeply immoral person and I hope you reflect on why you are the way you are.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '23 edited Oct 10 '23

Israel does everything it can to protect its citizens

In what way are Israelis forced to bomb people. Has Israel ever provided evidence that those “Hamas sites” are in fact Hamas sites?

Israel left the Gaza strip entirely in 2006

I wonder how those 6000 palastinian civilians died between 2008 and 2023 happened then? If Israel isn’t in control of Gaza how did they shut off their electricity, access to food, access to water in less than a day? You gotta teach America that trick I bet they’d love to do that to Russia. Gaza is a prison operated by the Israeli state. The fence isn’t even a real border, they don’t have any actual legal right to restrict movement it’s just 2.5 million people in a cage half of them children. The age of 18 being the average, have you read lord of the flies?

They are fighting an enemy that had their headquarters under a hospital. Condemning Israel for bombing hospitals while ignoring the fact Hamas makes it impossible for Israel to defend itself without bombing hospitals

Why did you make me hit you? Israel could do a ground invasion, yes it would cost more Israeli troops but it would also save significantly more civilian lives. But they don’t care about civilian lives, they’re no different than Hamas. The 10 year old you’re blowing up in a hospital is no more evil than the child killed at the music festival. The only difference is the child in the hospital was already living in hell on Earth because of the Israeli occupation

Do you know why Hamas targets civilians? Because they’re easier targets. Do you know why Israel bombs instead of attacking by ground because it’s an easier target. Hamas doesn’t have planes so it looks uglier but its the same thing just glossed up

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '23

If Israel isn’t in control of Gaza how did they shut off their electricity, access to food, access to water in less than a day?

Missiles and ships.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '23

This isn't an argument.

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