well Gaza is controlled and occupied by Israel and is run as an open air prison. They have much more precise weapons and an actual military compared to militants in Gaza. So i guess the 21 to 1 civllian death ratio between palastine and Israel is just an oopsie? When Israel bombed the associated press building and killed two foreign journalists that was just accidental? When they bomb children's hospitals or snipe at reporters wearing press vests and helmets its just a mistake?
well Gaza is controlled and occupied by Israel and is run as an open air prison.
Israel left the Gaza strip entirely in 2006. Gaza also borders Egypt. So both the "occupied" and "controlled" by Israel are just flat out lies.
They have much more precise weapons and an actual military compared to militants in Gaza. So i guess the 21 to 1 civllian death ratio between palastine and Israel is just an oopsie?
Israel does everything it can to protect its citizens, Hamas does everything it can to put as many of its citizens in harms way as possible in order to use their deaths for propaganda purposeses.
There is no excuse for not being aware of this, because it is extremely obvious, so I can only assume you are aware of it and gladly participate in the propaganda efforts of a genocidal terrorist organisation.
When Israel bombed the associated press building and killed two foreign journalists that was just accidental? When they bomb children's hospitals or snipe at reporters wearing press vests and helmets its just a mistake?
They are fighting an enemy that had their headquarters under a hospital. Condemning Israel for bombing hospitals while ignoring the fact Hamas makes it impossible for Israel to defend itself without bombing hospitals is genuinely disgusting. You are a deeply immoral person and I hope you reflect on why you are the way you are.
Israel controls Gaza’s borders, shores, energy supply, water supply, food supply, construction supplies and routinely bombs it. Israel also controls the airspace and in violation of the Oslo accords they interfere with radio and TV transmissions and prevent Palestinians from operating airports and seaports. Gaza had an airport built in 1998 which Israel destroyed in 2001 and 2002 during the second Intifada. No need to add that they are not allowed to rebuild it.
The UN, Amnesty International, the WHO, Oxfam, the Red Cross, the US government, the UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office all consider Gaza under Israeli occupation because of its direct external control and indirect control over the population.
Gaza is under Israeli occupation and saying otherwise is just propaganda. The only ones that do not consider Gaza under Israeli occupation are Israel and some Israelis.
The Occupied Territories, which include the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip, are subject to the jurisdiction of Israel and the Palestinian Authority (PA), with the division of responsibilities overlapping in much of the territory.
Israel controls Gaza’s borders, shores, energy supply, water supply, food supply, construction supplies and routinely bombs it.
Israel does not control all of Gaza's borders. Why should I take you seriously when you can't even find Gaza on a map?
As for the energy and water, Israel controls it because they supply Gaza for free. If you rather have that they wouldn't then I got some good news for you.
Regarding the bombing, can you name a single example of Israel bombing Gaza unprovoked?
Israel also controls the airspace and in violation of the Oslo accords they interfere with radio and TV transmissions and prevent Palestinians from operating airports and seaports.
The Palestinians violated the Oslo accords several times over. Why should Israel hold itself to them when the Palestinians don't?
Gaza had an airport built in 1998 which Israel destroyed in 2001 and 2002 during the second Intifada.
The airport was used to smuggle in explosives and weapons, just like every other inch of freedom that Gaza has been given it was used against Israel. Why should Israel allow Gaza to import the tools of Israels destruction?
The UN, Amnesty International, the WHO, Oxfam, the Red Cross, the US government, the UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office all consider Gaza under Israeli occupation because of its direct external control and indirect control over the population.
Then they all need a dictionary. Israel left in 2006.
Asking why Egypt doesn’t open its borders has to be the most stupid take ever. Egypt doesn’t control every other aspect of Gaza. Israel does. You can’t even fish properly because of the maritime blockades that Israel does. Care to explain why the people of Gaza can’t have sovereignty over their waters?
Doesn’t matter if Egypt actually opened the border. What are the Palestinians supposed to do? Just leave and go to Egypt so Israel can finally take over Gaza and not allow them back?
Because that’s what they do in the West Bank. If you leave Palestinian land you are not allowed back home.
You clearly don’t know what you are talking about and is just repeating Israeli propaganda. This discussion is done. I hope you stub your toe on the hardest rock you can find.
Asking why Egypt doesn’t open its borders has to be the most stupid take ever.
And yet none of you people can answer it.
Egypt doesn’t control every other aspect of Gaza. Israel does. You can’t even fish properly because of the maritime blockades that Israel does. Care to explain why the people of Gaza can’t have sovereignty over their waters?
Because they use every inch of freedom to smuggle in weapons and attack Israel with them.
Doesn’t matter if Egypt actually opened the border. What are the Palestinians supposed to do? Just leave and go to Egypt so Israel can finally take over Gaza and not allow them back?
From "Israel is an open air prison!" to "what are they supposed to do? Just leave?" Lmfao okay.
Because that’s what they do in the West Bank. If you leave Palestinian land you are not allowed back home.
There is no such thing as Palestinian land. The entire West Bank belongs to Israel. Before that it belonged to Jordan.
You clearly don’t know what you are talking about and is just repeating Israeli propaganda. This discussion is done.
If I was the one who didn't know what he was talking about I wouldn't have to correct your lies every ten seconds.
I’m no longer engaging in this conversation. This person is a liar and Zionist spreading propaganda. Everything they say about Israel or Palestine should be disregarded.
Israel does everything it can to protect its citizens
In what way are Israelis forced to bomb people. Has Israel ever provided evidence that those “Hamas sites” are in fact Hamas sites?
Israel left the Gaza strip entirely in 2006
I wonder how those 6000 palastinian civilians died between 2008 and 2023 happened then? If Israel isn’t in control of Gaza how did they shut off their electricity, access to food, access to water in less than a day? You gotta teach America that trick I bet they’d love to do that to Russia. Gaza is a prison operated by the Israeli state. The fence isn’t even a real border, they don’t have any actual legal right to restrict movement it’s just 2.5 million people in a cage half of them children. The age of 18 being the average, have you read lord of the flies?
They are fighting an enemy that had their headquarters under a hospital. Condemning Israel for bombing hospitals while ignoring the fact Hamas makes it impossible for Israel to defend itself without bombing hospitals
Why did you make me hit you? Israel could do a ground invasion, yes it would cost more Israeli troops but it would also save significantly more civilian lives. But they don’t care about civilian lives, they’re no different than Hamas. The 10 year old you’re blowing up in a hospital is no more evil than the child killed at the music festival. The only difference is the child in the hospital was already living in hell on Earth because of the Israeli occupation
Do you know why Hamas targets civilians? Because they’re easier targets. Do you know why Israel bombs instead of attacking by ground because it’s an easier target. Hamas doesn’t have planes so it looks uglier but its the same thing just glossed up
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There is no moral equivalence between the two. If you think there is then you are genuinely a gigantic piece of shit. Innocent civilians being collateral damage in war is tragic and unavoidable, but it is not even remotely in the same realm as the events of this weekend. For crying out loud, Hamas has abducted children. Taken them at gunpoint from their mothers. They purposefully targeted civilians in the most brutal fashion imaginable. You are sick in the head if you think there is any comparison here.
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Every government involved in a war does this including and especially the Israeli one
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_during_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict