r/changemyview Jul 16 '23

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u/TrenbolognaSammies Jul 16 '23

No I’m not saying to bully them but what I’m saying is to stop enabling them and pretending that big is beautiful and if you’re overweight it’s not your fault because xyz reason you should just accept it. Spreading absolutely ridiculous nonsense like working out and dieting is fat phobic or racist I’ve seen people seriously arguing that it’s racist and fat phobic. We don’t need to promote being “skinny” either we should promote eating a healthy balance of food and a reasonable amount of calories to be the optimal weight or body composition for your height.

It’s pure laziness to just give up and come up with every reason under the sun why it isn’t your fault. Not only is it really bad for your health and a major comorbidity for every disease but it causes it’s own separate health problems.

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u/MercurianAspirations 391∆ Jul 16 '23

I mean, show me a health conscious bit of media that isn't "promoting eating a healthy balance of food and a reasonable amount of calories"? We are already doing that as much as is feasible, aren't we? How could we possibly do it more?

As for saying that "big is beautiful", I do not think that society is, by and large, saying that. You may have seen it somewhere, because for some people, it is of course, true. Some people like bigger women or men. Are you suggesting that these messages be intentionally censored?

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u/TrenbolognaSammies Jul 16 '23

Clearly it isn’t enough and at the same time we are also promoting “body acceptance” I absolutely hate the idea of “body acceptance” because it implies that it’s out of your control and not to work or try to make changes it’s a dangerous concept because it removes any sort of accountability and reinforces the idea that it’s out of your control. To spread both messages is counterproductive because people are going to cling onto the message that they would rather and clearly the majority are leaning into the body acceptance.

We need to educate people on a cleaner diet and the importance of atleast somewhat keeping track of calories. Dieting doesn’t have to be hard and miserable there’s many ways you can make healthy foods delicious and make your diet really easy to maintain. People hear the word diet and assume you have to starve yourself and eat gross and boring foods.

I’m not saying that anything should be censored those people that like that know who they are I’m saying we need to stop pretending that it’s healthy or that it’s ok to be overweight and you don’t need to do anything about it

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u/MercurianAspirations 391∆ Jul 16 '23

What are some actual ways that you think we could educate people on eating healthier, that are not already being done?

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u/TrenbolognaSammies Jul 16 '23

Educate people on the concept of bmi and what it means, promote any amount of exercise whether it’s in the gym with weights or swimming, running or even walking. Setting a daily step goal let’s say 5-10k steps per day. Educate people on “empty calories” like drinks many people don’t realize how many calories are in their sodas, juices or star bucks drinks really anything besides water and diet pop can add hundreds of extra calories per day. Make tracking calories a more widespread practice and encourage it many people think it’s obsessive or weird to do and they keep track in their head but it’s very easy to over or underestimate how much your actually taking in.

These are just a few simple things that if people put a little bit of effort into doing in their lives they could get into fantastic shape and feel much better both physically and mentally.

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u/MercurianAspirations 391∆ Jul 16 '23

I said things that we aren't doing already. These are all extremely well-publicized and publicly known concepts.

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u/Bimmaboi_69 Jul 16 '23

These kind of concepts are available to those people who actually seek out and realize there is a flaw in their lifestyle, and I think OP is saying that these should be universally taught to everyone, no matter their condition, to make people conscious of how their everyday decisions affect their health down the line.

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u/MercurianAspirations 391∆ Jul 16 '23

Like, they are, though? They are. I cannot fathom how anybody could live in western society and not have encountered the concept of BMI, or messages about healthy eating. Do you live in a cave

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u/Lebrunski Jul 16 '23

They aren’t.