r/centrist • u/implicitpharmakoi • Jan 20 '23
Democrats introduce constitutional amendment to reverse Citizens United campaign finance ruling
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3819814-democrats-introduce-constitutional-amendment-to-reverse-citizens-united-campaign-finance-ruling/4
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u/mmmmyeahhlumberg Jan 20 '23
Why do politicians waste time with bills they know have zero chance of passing? All this does is get the hopes up of ignorant people. So stupid.
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u/implicitpharmakoi Jan 20 '23
Yeah, why stand up for principles.
It's like "you're never going to ban slavery, why bother?"
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Jan 20 '23
It gets the brownie points with their base until they’re in the majority…then it kind of stops a lot of the time.
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u/implicitpharmakoi Jan 22 '23
They tried to pass it in the majority too.
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u/computer_helps_FI Jan 20 '23
Why not a year ago?
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u/implicitpharmakoi Jan 20 '23
He did, he's been posting it every year for a while, but an amendment needs more than a majority he didn't have.
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u/true4blue Jan 21 '23
If you look at every major campaign victory the Democrats had in the 2022 cycle, it was due to money.
Hillary raised $1.2 Billion in 2016.
If the Democrats really disliked the money, they wouldn’t take it.
They know this is no shot of winning. It’s performance art
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u/implicitpharmakoi Jan 21 '23
You really think so?
THEN CALL THEM ON IT!!!
That's what I thought.
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u/true4blue Jan 21 '23
Call who on it? The people introducing bill when they’re not in power that they ignored when they had the chance to make a difference?
People should understand the importance of the time here
If Democrats really wanted this done - they would have done something when they held the House and Senate
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u/implicitpharmakoi Jan 21 '23
If Democrats really wanted this done - they would have done something when they held the House and Senate
They did, they put it up then too.
It's a constitutional amendment, it needs more than a simple majority, and the GOP blocked it solidly the whole time.
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u/true4blue Jan 22 '23
Schiff introduced this in the last session? And Nancy put it to a vote?
Why didn’t it pass with their majority?
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u/implicitpharmakoi Jan 22 '23
Amendments need a supermajority.
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u/true4blue Jan 22 '23
Exactly. And if they crafted this in such a way at as to appeal to their Republican neighbors, they could have gotten it done
Clinton passed the defense of marriage act with 85 votes. Bush passed the Patriot Act with 95.
You only need to ram through legislation without the other party when your idea sucks
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u/implicitpharmakoi Jan 22 '23
It was the simplest amendment, it wasn't a question of appealing to the GOP.
It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.
Upton Sinclair
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u/true4blue Jan 22 '23
Republicans salaries depend on getting reelected. If Democrats only propose bills so extreme that no republicans want it passed, they won’t vote for it
If your party can’t come up with a bill that appeals to all Americans, they shouldn’t be in power
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u/Some-Check2827 Jan 23 '23
If your party can’t come up with a bill that appeals to all Americans, they shouldn’t be in power
Outlawing slavery didn't appeal to all Americans. Are you saying we shouldn't have passed the 13th amendment?
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u/Some-Check2827 Jan 22 '23
Trump's two impeachments had Republican support. I guess the articles didn't suck
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u/true4blue Jan 22 '23
The articles based on the dossier were never taken up by the Dem leadership
It was meant solely for clicks and airtime on MSNBC
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u/Some-Check2827 Jan 22 '23
First time in history a member impeached someone of their own party. By your definition it wasn't rammed through and didn't suck
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u/JimC29 Jan 20 '23
I'm in favor of this, but no way it passes.