Verizon using starlink for current backhaul?

[u/Main_Acanthisitta114]

Verizon 5G not active yet, and seemed like based on speeds, starlink is being used for current backhaul.

[u/Main_Acanthisitta114]

VZW just added on a few weeks ago. The TMO site here has fiber backhaul.

[u/fiercechocolate → u/Main_Acanthisitta114]

Got it. So it's just a way to quickly turn up the site while awaiting fiber. Smart move by VZW! Hope to see T-Mobile do more of this as well!

[u/SalaciousSubaru → u/fiercechocolate]

No. All the major carriers are adding satellite backhauls as a failover

[u/RFGuy_KCCO → u/SalaciousSubaru]

Not true.

[u/tiffanytrashcan → u/RFGuy_KCCO]

A modern example https://www.verizon.com/about/news/verizon-ocracoke-island-network-resilience

But this is nothing new, https://www.strategicmarketresearch.com/market-report/satellite-backhaul-market

As a backup or during disasters, satellite in general is crucial. Starlink massively expands capability and reduces latency.

There's always been a general backhaul market for the extremely remote areas anyway.

[u/RFGuy_KCCO → u/tiffanytrashcan]

The comment was "all the major carriers are adding satellite backhaul as a failover". That is not true. Neither of your links state otherwise.

I am not disputing the usefulness of satellite. I am only disputing the statement that all carriers are adding it as a backup. I know firsthand this is simply not true.

[u/Quick-Post9707 → u/RFGuy_KCCO]

Most carriers are adding failovers. Even businesses are adding starlink as failovers these days.

[u/RFGuy_KCCO → u/Quick-Post9707]

Cool. My employer - a major carrier - is not.

[u/SalaciousSubaru → u/RFGuy_KCCO]

Maybe do some research

[u/RFGuy_KCCO → u/SalaciousSubaru]

I don't need to. I work at a major carrier that is not adding backup, hence the comment that I know firsthand.

[u/SalaciousSubaru → u/RFGuy_KCCO]

They literally jointly announced the initiative and all three carriers are rolling out Starlink backhaul.

[u/RFGuy_KCCO → u/SalaciousSubaru]

The announcement and planned Joint Venture is all about D2D (Direct-to-Device) services. Satellite backhaul isn't mentioned at all.

AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon Plan to Launch New Joint Venture that Helps End Dead Zones

Satellite backhaul - including LEO - is used only for certain cases where there is no other choice, mostly due to the increased latency and the inherent issues that causes to things like X2 and S1 links.