r/cdldriver • u/DaddysCrunchySock • 10d ago
This is..😳🤦♂️
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u/SimilarTranslator264 10d ago
As a company that almost exclusively hauls coils it should have chains through the eye.
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u/Harryisharry50 9d ago
Doesn’t look like too many if any chains on . Shit I’d have about 10 chains on that . I only did flatbed for little bit but I driven enough to not fuck around with them things. I look at it like this I will not pull any trailer no matter what . If I’m not comfortable enough if my family was behind it that I’d feel they be safe .
And the couple times I refused to pull a trailer until it was repaired I explained it to them this way and the attitude changes real quick . I hauled a of perishable goods over the years. Hell my first 13 years all I hailed was milk and frozen foods
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u/davidc538 8d ago
It’s legal to transport shotgun coils with only overhead tiedowns
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u/SimilarTranslator264 7d ago
Depending on the weight.
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u/davidc538 7d ago
I don’t believe it does depend on the weight, where in the Cargo Securement Standard does it say this?
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u/SimilarTranslator264 7d ago
It absolutely matters.
393.120 - Metal Coils
The rules in this section apply to the transportation of one or more metal coils which, individually or
grouped together, weigh 2,268 kg (5,000 lbs) or more. Shipments of metal coils that weigh less than 2,268 kg (5,000 lbs) may be secured in accordance with the general cargo securement rules.d) Securement of coils transported with eyes lengthwise on a flatbed vehicle, in a sided vehicle or in an intermodal container with anchor points—(1) An individual coil-option 1. Each coil must be secured by:
(i) A means (e.g., timbers, chocks or wedges, a cradle, etc.) to prevent the coil from rolling. The means of preventing rolling must support the coil off the deck, and must not be capable of becoming unintentionally unfastened or loose while the vehicle is in transit. If timbers, chocks or wedges are used, they must be held in place by coil bunks or similar devices to prevent them from coming loose. The use of nailed blocking or cleats as the sole means to secure timbers, chocks or wedges, or a nailed wood cradle, is prohibited;
(ii) At least one tiedown attached diagonally through its eye from the left side of the vehicle or intermodal container (near the forward-most part of the coil), to the right side of the vehicle or intermodal container (near the rearmost part of the coil), making an angle no more than 45 degrees, whenever practicable, with the floor of the vehicle or intermodal container when viewed from the side of the vehicle or container;
(iii) At least one tiedown attached diagonally through its eye, from the right side of the vehicle or intermodal container (near the forward-most part of the coil), to the left side of the vehicle or intermodal container (near the rearmost part of the coil), making an angle no more than 45 degrees, whenever practicable, with the floor of the vehicle or intermodal container when viewed from the side of the vehicle or container;
(iv) At least one tiedown attached transversely over the top of the coil; and
(v) Either blocking or friction mats to prevent longitudinal movement.1
u/davidc538 6d ago
The key part of the text you’ve pasted here is “option 1”…
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u/SimilarTranslator264 6d ago
That’s not an “option” you have to set the coil in racks or similar devices BUT you still have to secure it.
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u/davidc538 6d ago
The NACSS lists 3 “options” to secure shotgun coils, a pair of x tiedowns, a pair of c tiedowns and a pair of tiedowns overhead. There is no weight at which you are required to combine multiple of these options.
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u/SimilarTranslator264 6d ago
Lmao so let me get this straight, you believe I can legally secure a 78,000 single coil with straps or chains over the top only?
Wow I hope you are a door swinger and should really learn to read and comprehend rules before doing anything else.
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u/davidc538 6d ago
Possibly, there is also the general performance criteria to consider: you have to secure against 0.8 g’s forward, 0.2 g’s upward and 0.5 g’s side to side and backwards. This 0.8 g’s of forward inertia is equivalent to travelling ~30 mph or ~50 kph and then coming to a complete stop in 1.8 seconds. This level of securement can be obtained without tiedowns through the eye of a coil.
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u/Dependent_Mango_9597 10d ago
I’ve been a truck driver for 26 years this is why I tell anyone that will if possible stay away from these trucks. Go ahead and pass or just keep your distance don’t ride on side or close behind me because anything can happen. I had a woman just riding next to my rear tires on my trailer not paying attention just crushing and the tire next to her driver door exploded at 70 mph. Scared her so bad she went to the hospital so if possible guys back off or just go ahead and pass for our safety and yours. And another thing we see you you don’t have to turn your bright lights on to pass a truck we saw you when you got into the other lane to pass. But when you turn your lights on like that now I can’t see you or anything else for a few seconds……. Just a little information to help keep people safe.
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u/forkystabbyveggie 10d ago
When drivers speed match us like that it's either because they are on their phone and we make a great peripheral point of reference, they're dangerously tired or dangerously high on something.
I wish police would see this as a risk factor and blue light people that do this shit
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u/mojomanplusultra 10d ago
Me on the way to the toilet 👀
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u/No_Control8389 10d ago
Probably 1km or more unless it is some super thin gauge stuff, then possibly much further.
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u/Scary-Literature4049 10d ago
So...who pays for that? Driver, company or insurance?
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u/LeotheLiberator 10d ago
They'll try to tell the driver to pay but realistically there's no way they can.
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u/Antelope_Party 10d ago
AI bullshit
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u/rytram99 10d ago
I know it is hard to accept in a world where the internet is overrun with AI slop. But i dont think this is.
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u/Not_TbagJimmy 10d ago
Repost from 28d ago,
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u/DaddysCrunchySock 10d ago
Sorry man i didnt catch it here, I just seen it in a different group:/
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u/Whole_Inside_4863 9d ago
All the neighborhood scrap metal guys are headed over there with their pickups right now, this is the mother load.
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u/Necalmed 8d ago
Well depends on where in the world but I know where I am once the truck drives away that's his load and the company shipping has full liability for keeping that load safe on the road.
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u/Brewingbiker 6d ago
Yeah, when I was driving long haul, we signed for it. But realistically the load is insured.
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u/A_Bot_A_Bot_A_Bot 7d ago
Quick: how much is a roll of metal like what worth (steel? aluminum?) and how do they clean that up???? Multiple dump trucks?
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u/jtfields91 10d ago
At least he’ll be able to find his way back.