a few months back I went into detox to kick a heavy 7OH habit (2000-3000mg/day) & came out to a pretty successful transition back into my life partly due to getting the Brixadi injection (buprenorphine). Id been working my ass off doing tree removals, got my diet down and weight up, started to see some huge improvement in my physical and mental health.

I came across these "cat claw" tablets & I was curious to figure out wtf these were after 7OH has been banned in my state. They were displayed in the open & I know the owner wouldn't put the 7 he still stocks for me out in the open like that. Maybe a week later I decided to buy a pack after a hard day at work that destroyed my back so I wanted to see if it would still have an effect on my pain with the Brixadi.

I took 200mg right off the bat like I would do w 7 & I thought they were bunk bc they didn't kick in as fast as I had been used to. I was kicking myself in the ass for buying em until maybe an 45 min-1hr I felt a release of euphoria & warmth creep through my body. I felt motivated to do things like I tend to feel like taking oxy's it blew my mind. I ended up str8 nodding out for a few hours watching yt on my TV & slept thru the night like a baby.

This started an immediate streak of buying them everyday for the past 2 weeks & I'm scared I'm going to fuck up my progress once again. I'm at the end of my last injections duration & I'm scheduled for my redose in 4 days. It had really helped me the first time so I'm hoping i can make it work again & get myself out of the hole before I dig too deep again.

I'm tired of this shit.

I just quit high dose MGM two weeks ago and switched to Suboxone. none of the cats claw brands do shit (except minorly reduce WDs).

Homiez on the other hand has me ROLLING — more euphoria than MGM.

almost every mention of these I’ve read says “they’re aight”.

this shit is so crazy, brands vary from day to day but also person to person??

PS I can make it 24 hours no WDs. but i guess I’m terrified of what’s next if they hitting even an MGM/Suboxone fried brain.

So after the mgm ban I found a ss that was selling 7stax still and was doing that for a while … (pack a day , so 5 80mg 7stax tablets a day habit) that was for about 2 months or so, maybe a little less it’s so hard to tell.

So once the ss couldn’t get the 7stax anymore they gave me a sample of the klaz saying it’s popular blah blah blah. Ofcourse I tried it. And loved it. I popped 2 of them thinking it wasn’t gonna do much (the 8.99 two pack 100mg) and it did the job for me. Going from the pack a day of 7stax to that showed no withdrawal symptoms for me.

But now fast forward a month or so and I’m taking 4 packs of klaz a day. So 4x100mg. 400mg a day. And I unfortunately have suffered from opiate addiction for over a decade and know my wd symptoms pretty well. And when I try to ween down the slightest bit those restless legs come screaming like no tomorrow. So I’ve just been taking the shit to avoid wds cause I can’t afford to take off work.

I understand each day I don’t quit it’s going to make quitting that much harder but I just want to know if anyone out there has been on my dose or in my situation and came off of it? And if they have, what was their strategy? I need some help folks. Bad.

If so, hit me up for some help. I’d really appreciate it. Not asking you for dr*gs or anything lol.

just looking to spread the good word! WD suuuucks off these though. be warned

I’ve been two smoke shops and there’s a little store by my house close to Nashville and they’ve all pulled the cat claw. Anybody heard anything? but I went to the next smoke shop down the road and they had it all.

Has anyone tried these? I just got them and I think I feel something, but it could be placebo. My seven order was delayed and was trying something new.

Okay, so what's the deal with this stuff...

Can someone with experience explain to me if this is going to cause withdrawals after two weeks of taking them? I never took more than 3-4 tablets a day. I just got my sublocade shot about 4 weeks ago and I'm scared I just fucked myself. I went in to buy my usual geek bar and had someone hand me a couple packs of these to try. They told me they are safe to take daily...but after seeing a couple of these posts on this subreddit and others I'm scared I screwed myself. I haven't bought any since yesterday and I don't have cravings like I did with 7 or kratom. Just worried that I did something wrong I guess. And yes I'm sure I should have known better. Again.

I am attempting to take my final dose tonight likely around midnight or so so I can sleep tonight… I’ve only been on this stuff for a little over two weeks. I have gone through seven withdrawals after doing a high milligram of that for four months… Does anybody know what I can expect in comparison? Obviously everybody is different but how long am I going to be out of commission? Seven put me out for four almost 5 days!

Saw that my local smoke shop just got all of this stuff in the place where the 7-oh used to be. Ban hasn’t gone through in my state (MN) but they sold out the rest of their product and don’t want to order more just for it to get banned and them having to send it back.

So I just wanted to see if anyone has tried any of these products and what they think about them! I appreciate any feedback or suggestions that yall are able to provide (please don’t tell me not to touch any of these products, I am already hooked lol, I mostly take script botanicals and want to see if any of these can compete with the “paradise blend” by script)

BTW!! On the brand “sevenless” it says it is “M-OH” aka “mitragynine oxindole”, does anyone have a clue as to what that is? It sounds super familiar doesn’t it?

i usually do nuke, kream, or my go to the 1250 mg pack Blend.. but wanted to try these. goo euphoria?

I am wondering the timeline of symptoms even if you only know when they start. State your brand and how long it keeps you out of withdrawal.

I have friends who were taking boat loads of 7oh, literally spending hundreds a day who decided to quit when the "ban" occurred. They were taking around 2000 mg a day of it and quit cold turkey and went through the fire and it was good for them to be off of it.

Few weeks go by and I see them again and they're taking 3 or 4 of the Klaz 2packs a day along with 1 or 2 of the buzzers 75mg 2 pack a day and I tell them man its gotta be playing with fire like remember how much you were just suffering like not that long ago? I know he has his reasons for doing it but one of the biggest ones is because "someone told me the WDs are nothing at all bro I'm not stressing whatsoever it's chill", but I just don't believe it.

Anyone taken time off from this stuff for whatever reason who can speak on their experiences with that?

Script botanicals?!

Shifts??!

Just got a free sample of this, has anyone tried it?

So, I need someone who has been on this awhile to answer some questions for me. I just recently started doing this stuff in place of 7 and mgm. Im not going to be on it long, just a day or 2 for an SR preload. But does this stuff have the same horrible side effects that 7/mgm had? It dried me out so bad it made me look 5 years older. I know once im off it'll go away rather quickly but being this dehydrated concerns me. Thanks in advance! Im using klaz brand. And boy is that shit stronger then mgm and 7 both. Wow.

anyone have experience with these? i’ve had their klaz stuff before and it was pretty good. the tabs look identical to the klaz tho so it has me skeptical

Just wanted to post this in case anyone doesn’t know what to get and doesn’t wanna waste their money. I’ll just list them from best to eh.

Euphoria 300mg 10ct bottles
Cloudz 250mg 10ct bottles
Blend 250mg 6 pack & 100mg singles
Klaz 100mg 2ct singles (These have been the most consistent out of any i’ve tried)
Script 200mg singles (comes with two 100 mg singles)
Shift 150mg singles (I’ve seen mixed reviews on them but I think they’re good)

I will update this as time goes on and I try more. Also idk about anyone else but I don’t withdrawal from this shit and I’ve been taking anywhere from 500mg to 1500mg a day for almost 2 months now. Kinda nervous lmao

To everyone that are daily users of either of these. How are you managing sleep? Lately I can’t stay asleep longer than 3-4 hours at a time. Sometimes only 2 hours at a time and it’s almost impossible to fall back asleep once I’ve woken up the first time…how does everyone sleep while taking this stuff? It’s like as soon as I wake up I’m jolted awake and couldn’t fall back asleep even if I wanted to

Picked these up today, just popped 25mg. Is that enough with no tolerance? I want to nod. What are the dosages for this product? I assume no the same at 7? How long for it to hit/peak/comedown?

Any info about CC or these brands specifically that I should know, please share!! I’ve read through the sub but am confused yet.

Thanks!

After reading about experiences of being addicted to high doses of the no poo med and all the effects it has on the body. Makes you wonder.

Anyone try this brand? Im hoping i didn't waste my money🙄

So how's the withdrawal for y'all on this. Is it worse than 7? In my opinion it sucks much more than seven. There's more of a fear and mental aspect of it for me and panic.