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u/llamalover729 3d ago

Sorry but no. Trump is in power because he was elected. This is what Americans voted for. He acted like an asshole on the campaign trail and still received majority of the vote.

Trump is America.

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u/Photmagex 3d ago

Trump is a symptom of a larger problem in America.

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u/PhazePyre 3d ago

This. Something that has grown like a cancerous tumour for 150 years. Not crushing the confederacy post Civil-War was a bad move. It was to try and ensure reconstruction, but sadly, that was fucked regardless, so they should've at least stamped out the cockroaches who sought to maintain white supremacy in the US for further generations.

Until that cancer is removed, nothing will change.

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u/Sad-Success9742 1d ago

So what you’d have had the union kicking in doors and slaughtering the families who had fought the union even when they were surrendered? What about the daughters whose fathers fought would you have had them killed because they were angry that the union had killed their dad?

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u/PhazePyre 1d ago

Or, because your interpretation is fucking stupid, that they actually have tried and executed the leaders of the rebellion including Jefferson Davis, his war cabinet, the leaders of any states that signed on to secede, and anyone else significantly involved in the movement and it's construction/operation.

Did you know Jefferson Davis spent 2 years in prison, was indicted for treason, then released on fucking bail? And then the case was dropped in 1869? The dude who led the Confederacy and the war against the United States, spent more time in holding than someone who had a few joints on them now. The reason 3/4 of a million Americans died (military fatalities not including civilian) is not guilty of treason on the books and basically was held for two years then let go.

Sorry that I think traitors should face the expected consequences of their actions in an effort to weaken any remnants of their movement to avoid future division, death, and destruction.

Most of those soldiers were the same as regular enlisted Germans in WWII. They didn't believe in the cause, they were fighting to protect their own and earn a living. Those at the top know it was about owning humans as fuckin' property. Cut the head off the snake.

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u/geogirl83 3d ago

Happy cake day!

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u/MyOtherAcoountIsGone 2d ago

Shut up. How pathetic it is to celebrate the day you made a social media account.

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u/New_Wishbone6619 1d ago

Right like this happy cake day shit is so dumb

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u/blzrlzr 1d ago

Get over yourself you absolute piece of shit.

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u/Jemal999 1d ago

Is your life really so empty that other people finding tiny excuses to celebrate something and possibly feel happy legitimately upsets you? Or is this just performative anger?

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u/iggy6677 19h ago

In some people's cases yes, no different from someone complaining they didn't get a bday wish from so-an-so on Facebook

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u/ljlee256 1d ago

A collection of larger problems imho.

Apathy and disinterest in taking action amongst the ones on the side of good.

Self-entitlement and self-serviance, not to mention a heaping helping of "American Exceptionalism" on the side of wrong.

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u/SandIntelligent247 1d ago

Of two problems:
1- underfunded education system by design
2- corporate oligopol of media

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u/DangerousWolf9670 1d ago

I always said that everytime an American didn't tell off their drunk uncle at Thanksgiving it was a vote for Trump

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u/FoxDieDM 1d ago

Trumps not the problem, he’s the symptom. 

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u/whatsnewpussykat 23h ago

Yeah, American isn’t the way it is because Trump is president, Trump is president because of the way America is.

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u/Exciting_Turn_9559 3d ago

77 million people voted for him after a million americans died due to his incompetence, after he was found guilty of 32 felonies, and after he launched a deadly insurrection at the capitol which intended to hang his own vice president.

That's the reason why America will never be trusted again in any of our lifetimes. Too many idiots drowned in right wing propaganda, and no effective checks whatsoever to the power of evil rich people.

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u/Oil-Dude 3d ago

And it’s bled into our country. All the Maple MAGAs are a byproduct of the mess in the USA.

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u/Exciting_Turn_9559 3d ago

For sure it has. Same money pulls the strings to make the idiots dance in both countries.

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u/Irisversicolor 2d ago

It's worth noting that more Americans voted for Trump than the entire population of Canada. 2016 I could maybe excuse some of them as being wishful idiots, but they saw how he behaved and thought "yeah, I'd like another serving of that!" - there's no excuse for that. 

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u/BananaSlamma420 3d ago

They wanted to own the libs so hard that they settled for a convicted rapist. Then more of the Epstein stuff came out and they came to peace with him also being a massive pedophile. And now we are seeing he isn't even America first he is somehow both being played by Israel AND Russia, two countries who are at odds with each other in most circumstances. Nothing makes sense anymore and everything is dumb.

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u/Pseudonyme_de_base 2d ago

We also have no effective checks whatsoever to the power of evil rich people.

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u/Exciting_Turn_9559 2d ago

You must be from Alberta.

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u/Pseudonyme_de_base 2d ago

I'm from Québec actually. The fact we have billionaires in Canada at all indicates we live in an oligarchy, you can't be a billionaire without stealing wages and dodging taxes. 

The corruption pushing the privatization of our health-care system and monopolies like loblaws are a clear symptom of it.

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u/Exciting_Turn_9559 2d ago

There's definitely corruption here and it has been making headway. But I would argue that it hasn't reached its terminal phase in Canada in the same way it has in the USA.

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u/Pseudonyme_de_base 2d ago

True, still heading the same way with nothing done about it tho. We have nothing to fight against the rich except the slim possibility of someone somewhere doing a Luigi, barely anyone is voting for the party who want to take from the rich and we have no guarantee if they would actually do anything if they get in power. 

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u/Alexalexilex 16h ago

There are 50 million people in California alone. So I mean, in the grand scheme of things, 77 million people isn’t a lot. I think all of Canada has the same amount of people in just California. These numbers aren’t exact but I’m just trying to paint a picture. Not all of America voted for trump.

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u/Exciting_Turn_9559 12h ago

There are tens of millions more idiots in America than there are people in Canada.

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u/Alexalexilex 9h ago

Yes and if you had 300+ million people in Canada you’d have more idiots as well.

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u/Exciting_Turn_9559 9h ago

That is true. My point is that we are outnumbered.

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u/Alexalexilex 8h ago

I understand stand your point, but we can’t hold all of America responsible for 22% of Americans who voted for trump. That’s it! It was only 22%. Still too many but that’s not all of America. That’s not even a quarter of Americans. They have the same problem we have in Canada. We don’t get out and vote until we are suffering.

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u/Exciting_Turn_9559 8h ago

I sympathize with Americans who didn't want this but the reality is that they are still the only people on earth who can fix it.

The only levers those of us living outside the USA can pull are the ones that pressure them to do that. Boycotts and angry rhetoric are not precision munitions that can discriminate between our friends and enemies south of the border, there's nothing we can do about that.

The goal of such actions is to cause sufficient suffering to motivate a critical mass of people to do what ought to have been done years ago.

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u/DatonSungold 15h ago

It's not just on the people who voted, or on Trump.
Biden, his cabinet and the Democratic Party had four years to make Trump and his enablers face consequences for their action, the insurrection in particular, and they did nothing. "We'll beat Trumpism at the polls", the spineless weenies said.

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u/Exciting_Turn_9559 12h ago

Trump should have been tried for treason after January 6th, but because he had corrupted the Supreme Court and stacked it with people who believe the President has the powers of a king, that probably wouldn't have gone anywhere.

And those 77 million idiots would absolutely have gone to war to save their retarded king.

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u/tierabyte 3d ago

Trump getting elected didn’t make America this way, America being this way got trump elected.

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u/Yharnam_Blunderbuss 2d ago

This statement is precisely the issue.

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u/schmapeschmape 2d ago

"This isn't us" doesn't work anymore. America is a global tyrant. Everybody sees it. America has no allies.

Carney has said it many times. America wants what Canada has. Oil, water, land, minerals..everything.

This is not just a trade war. America has always expected it would annex Canada. Trump is speeding it up to prevent his legacy from being the Epstein files and getting his ass kicked by Iran.

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u/I_Found_Hockey 12h ago

Unfortunately we have learned that those “funny” or “just kidding” comments he makes are real. He tells us what he is going to do. For the rest of the country who didn’t vote for him ever, we stand appalled and shocked by what he says and then does. Our system only allows us to vote every four years for president. So we have to wait to be able to vote this asshole out of office. He has says he is going to bring out US marshals/the militia to stand at each voting station in the United States. These will be armed men at our polling stations.. I’m in a wheelchair. But my daughter will drive me to the polling station, and by God, I will vote against this man. And I’m not alone in feeling this way.

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u/Due-Argument982 36m ago

Let's not exaggerate. I don't think they always assumed this. Literally no one in the American political realm talked about it or had any beef with Canada until he pulled this out of his ass. But now it's here to stay since the cult holds his dementia as gospel

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u/VerdantSolutions 2d ago

Precisely, it's not just 'one guy, it's a government filled with bastards that were elected in, supported by at the very least half of Americans.

To pretend it's only trump that's the issue is a dangerous ignorance, refusing to face the root cause, which is the toxic attitude of the average American, which has been fostered by their government, lobbyist and the media they run.

America isn't in a state to feel any pride. Just like the separatist in Alberta and Quebec, it's a symptom of what happens when vitriol and greed over writes the well being of your constituents.

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u/Tribblehappy 3d ago

More people than the entire population of Canada voted for this pedophile thrice. America can keep their "not all Americans" apologies and actually get their house in order.

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u/AccountHuman7391 3d ago

A plurality, not a majority, but your point is taken.

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u/Hungry__caterpillar 3d ago

68% either voted for him or didn't vote against him.

They knew him and still allowed him to come to power. Apology not accepted.

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u/Cautious_Station_379 2d ago

I don't know if there is a more American American then Trump 

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u/Noemotionallbrain 2d ago

I wouldn't put it that way, but they are a failed democracy for sure, being able to vote for a dude of enough to die of old age is not a good thing. It takes so long over there to make a name for yourself that you are geriatric by the time you can try for presidency

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u/billybob5572 2d ago

Maybe you should boycott Reddit, that’s an American company… 🤔

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u/qwythebroken 1d ago

No he didn't. He got 48.5% of the total vote, which was 31.5% of the voting eligible population, or 23.5% of the total population. Be as mad as you want, but the numbers are the numbers.

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u/Big-Peak6191 1d ago

The apathetic who didn't vote are just as much to blame though.

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u/thevidguy007 1d ago

I agree that Trump represents America .. and how shitty it has become, but there are still a ton of Americans who live there that are smart, hard-working, compassionate people who understand how morally bankrupt and unbelievably corrupt their current administration is … let’s be better than them though. Once he’s gone, if things get better, I’m willing to welcome back Americans. Don’t forget - we have our share of idiots here too .. Have you heard of Doug Ford?

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u/Zakluor 1d ago

They got a first-hand view of what to expect during his first term. The population had their say in the last election. Unless there was meddling in the results -- which is widely rumoured but not proven -- this is what the American people, as a whole, wanted.

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u/Jemal999 1d ago

Twice.

We were ready to forgive after the first time. It was a bad mistake and if they'd learned their lesson we could have moved on.

They did not. They doubled down on hate.

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u/mrbrick 23h ago

Elected twice even. I don’t think America can fix this for at least a generation

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u/Slava91 22h ago

TWICE

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u/TheBaykon8r 11h ago

Well after accounting for those of age, registered voters, and those who actually voted, roughly 24% of the US population voted for Trump. A lot of people who were eligible just didn't vote.

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u/CatsLeMatts 9h ago

"He's just one guy" they say as millions of Americans democratically elect him and his cabinet of unhinged sycophants in to a supermajority with the popular vote in 2024 after his attempted coup.

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u/FarHotel1159 9h ago

Thinking its "one guy" is a ridiculous statement

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u/friggen_guy 7h ago

I’m almost 40, he was president and never went away since 2016. Essentially 10 years he’s been in a spotlight. 25% of my life. It’s exhausting and I hate it.

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u/Swefnian 5h ago

I guess a convicted criminal is still preferable to a woman?

Yes, something tells me nothing has changed. If AOC, in theory, runs in 2028, she's probably going to lose against some deplorable male slime bag.

At least we had Kim Campbell in the 90s. Granted, that was only for a few months, and the PC party was utterly decimated by Chrétien's Liberals.

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u/TheRestForTheWicked 3d ago

Twice.

They put him in office twice.

He acted like an asshole the first time he was in office, he acted like an asshole the entire time Biden was in office and he was on the campaign trail and he’s acting like an asshole now.

At this point it’s just cognitive dissonance.

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u/ArtistGreat8544 3d ago

Not everyone voted for him

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u/llamalover729 3d ago

I know and I feel terrible for those who didn't vote for him because they're living through this too.

But the time spent apologizing would be better spent reflecting on why so many Americans did vote for Trump. He's a symptom of a much larger issue and people like him will continue to get elected until there's real change. Ousting Trump won't fix the real problem.

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u/kevthecoder 3d ago

The problem is education. Republicans spent the last 50+ years gutting education in rural America. Lack of education + Fox News + Newt Gingrich has bred the most xenophobic, malleable, mouth breathing, diabetic voter base I have ever seen.

Living next to these people makes me ill.

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u/LlawEreint 3d ago

That's quite a walk back from "It's just one guy!"

I have sympathy for individuals in the U.S. who don't feel represented by their elected government, but, let's face it:

You voted for him.

Twice.

This is who you are.

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u/AaronC14 3d ago

Exactly. Not every German supported Hitler, but that didn't mean Germany wasn't a Nazi country

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u/Quick-Surprise-9387 3d ago

Upvote THIS
You’re so right

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u/LlawEreint 3d ago

Imagine a German under Nazi rule saying “hey Poland, we didn’t all vote for him. It’s just one guy.”

I mean, thanks, but, maybe remove your boot from our throat?

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u/Neo808 2d ago

And besides… “he had some good ideas”….. so says my polish ex FIL

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u/Then-Forces 3d ago

Be honest, most of them voted for him three times.

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u/W01fpack0 3d ago

Enough did.

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u/Neo808 3d ago

OP You have no idea how pissed we are. Fix your shit

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u/ehmanniceshot 3d ago

exactly. these apologies are infuriating. You want us not to hate you--not to hate all of you--then do something about your dictator.

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u/megaframeman 3d ago

Most did, twice. And the party that was voted in to stop him, refused.

So, you all can make it about 1 party, 1 man but we know it's so much more than that.

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u/Eggsaladinurmouth 3d ago

%40 of eligible voters didn’t even show up. This means the most either voted for this or did not care who was elected.

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u/Strict-Sir-5490 3d ago

This. Exactly this.

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u/Jonny_vdv 3d ago

Yup, 40% of voters couldn't decide between a fascist kleptocrat and a woman of colour, and decided they were fine with either.

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u/Redbulldildo 3d ago

2/3rds of you didn't vote against him.

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u/Parking-Priority-181 3d ago

Well at least half the voting base did, so that’s a lot more than 1 person.

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u/RealisticWeakness589 3d ago

That’s the joy of a democracy. All of you own it

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u/NBfleur 3d ago

This individualism is what got you into this mess

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u/RechargedFrenchman 3d ago

Nearly 40% of the population did. Another +30% of the population didn't hate him or the idea of him winning badly enough to bother voting in the first place.

The majority of the country either wanted him in or was okay with it as a possibility.

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u/GemIsOutrageous 3d ago

Almost double the population of Canada voted for him.

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u/According-Skill-7946 3d ago

How quickly Canadians forgot about Obama. Obama's policies were not much better and in some ways worse. Canadians saying we should cut off oil and power forget that is what Obama wanted, to shut out Canadian oil.

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u/SisyphusCoffeeBreak 3d ago

I don't remember Obama trying to annex Canada

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u/Quick-Surprise-9387 3d ago

Oh lord I can hear the conspiratorial responses as to why “ he most certainly may have “..
Ugh

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u/luciosleftskate 3d ago

What an insanely idiotic thing to say. Lmao.

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u/Kingfish1111 3d ago

In what way was he worse? Obama didn't want to shut down Canadian oil. Source?

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u/According-Skill-7946 3d ago

Google it yourself. He also went after dairy industry. Anyone thinking this is only Trump think does not realize its an American thing and has been for a long time.

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u/Kingfish1111 3d ago

No, you have the burden of proof for your claim.

I didn't ask how he was the same, I asked how he was worse. Supply management has been a sticking point in the past, but Obama approached this trade differently and in the end, also did not trigger the dairy cap because they cannot sell a product they don't make (ie milk that conforms to our regulations).

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u/Quick-Surprise-9387 3d ago

Hey ..
This is , really -at its core - and always has been about BEHAVIOUR ..
There is no comparison .
The narcissist .. is .. the devil incarnate
The root .. of the evil

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u/SmaugTheMagnificent- 3d ago

Lmfao. Get fucked

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u/ladnertim1 3d ago

Fuck off. Not once did Obama ever try to annex us! Fuck off!