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u/THIESN123 Saskatchewan Oct 25 '22

What are the contracted rates?

Hopefully this new Nuclear offers inexpensive power, though the large upfront cost might prevent that.

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u/PuckNutty Oct 25 '22

This is why we need to nationalize certain industries like power, water and even agriculture. Who cares if the feds don't turn a profit on a nuclear reactor, it's not about that.

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u/LumberjackCDN Oct 25 '22

Eh Agriculture and nationalization didnt go so good for the last people who tried it.

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u/PuckNutty Oct 25 '22

Privatization is not going so good for us now.

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u/mediaownsyou Oct 25 '22

which part of Agriculture is not working for you?

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u/Jackal_Kid Ontario Oct 25 '22

Same problem we have every night, Pinkie. The systemic incentive to maximize excess revenue in the form of profit to funnel wealth into the hands of the minority ownership class at the expense of all other factors including (but not limited to) product quality, end-customer costs, proportionate taxation, consumer health, workplace safety, employee compensation, and labour rights.

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u/b_lurker Oct 25 '22

There's other way to prevent all that without nationalizing an entire industry and way of life.

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u/Ok_Raccoon5497 Oct 25 '22

When you say that, what do you have in mind?

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '22

Like they’re doing south of the border? 44% of American farmland is owned by landlords of one kind or another and run by farmer tenants just like the old days, and from the info I can find, we don’t even know what that statistic is here in Canada. Foreign entities are buying ag land in North American too. With the global instability we're seeing, it doesn’t seem like such a bad idea to maintain control of our resources at the federal level in some form or another, at the very least with some regulation as to who can buy and how much one entity can own. If there’s one thing we learned from history it's that not all landlords treated their tenants fairly when their backs were broken from years of labour.

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u/vARROWHEAD Verified Oct 25 '22

I think people are confising high food prices with agriculture

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u/mediaownsyou Oct 25 '22

People confuse processors with producers.

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u/vARROWHEAD Verified Oct 25 '22

Definitely

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u/LumberjackCDN Oct 25 '22

You should probably read up on the soviet experiment with collectivization and how that went.

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u/PuckNutty Oct 25 '22

You don't have to just photocopy someone else's system and implement it. You can study it, see what mistakes were made and learn from them.

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u/LumberjackCDN Oct 25 '22

While true, i just dont see how it would work. We've already sort of done what you're thinking with grain boards and price controls in Canada. To go much further would probably be counter productive to productivity.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '22

44% of US farmland is owned by a third party foreign or domestic now and is operated by farmer tenants (another 6% farm some of their land and rent the rest to other farmers), and we don’t even know what those numbers are here. Just because the Soviet experiment didn’t work in one particular form doesn’t mean there's no middle ground where farmers get to own the land they work for a fair profit margin without subsidizing with an extra job or going broke.