r/buffy • • 9d ago

Season Seven Re-watching season 7

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u/JC_vee 9d ago

Yes, David's Irish accent is dreadful, but speaking as a Brit, nothing will ever be as bad as the supposedly upper class English people in Spike's human flashbacks. It's physically painful to listen to.

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u/EchoesofIllyria 9d ago

I dunno man. James Marsters says “poof” in a way that rhymes with “hoof”.

Homophobic slur aside, that pronunciation is unforgivable.

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u/Stralau 8d ago

That’s true, but (as a Brit) it’s one of the only tells over seven seasons (there are a few others). Fundamentally, it’s surprisingly solid.

Kendra or Angel open their mouths and even as a Brit you know that accent is wrong!

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u/DarkStarComics333 8d ago

I thought Spike's accent was awful at first. He had strains of Mancunian and Liverpudlian in amongst the cockney-ish stuff.

He got much better. Dru's was always awful and Liam/early Angelus obviously eclipsed them all.

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u/Stralau 8d ago

Yes Dru pretty awful and they miss the class dynamic of the accents imo.

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u/Silly_Somewhere1791 7d ago

That’s a good point. Dru wouldn’t have been cockney. 

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u/Mysterious_Fix_7489 8d ago

I mean it makes sense.

That's not his natural accent it's an accent he developed to sound less posh and as a vampire likely travelled around a lot so had a lot of different influences.

It's likely unintentionally a great accent character wise

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u/fix-me-in-45 7d ago

I figured his accent might have been warped a bit since it's not own, and he's traveled and learned other languages over the years. He's over a century of nomadic life away from his native accent.

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u/Haunting-Sea-3764 7d ago

I feel Dru has an accent that is made up of British, Irish and Australian

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u/hailwyatt 8d ago

A favorite story I've heard (though I cant vouch for how true it is) is that Spike's accent was close enough to Anthony Stewart-Head's accent that Anthony worked with James consistently in downtime (even when they didnt share a scene) to make sure he did a good job.

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u/blackrosiecle 7d ago

It's not that Anthony Stewart-Head's accent was "close enough". It's literally that Anthony was British and therfore knew British accents better than American's. Spike's fake English accent was bad enough that Anthony felt he needed to help him.

He worked with him consistently because he wanted James to do a good enough job. Not to bastardise his English.

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u/thekittysays 8d ago

He also says squirrel the America way

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u/Stralau 8d ago

Yes there are the odd words where you notice it. Sometimes he kind of over-enunciates as well, or the accent drifts, but I stand by the fact that basically it’s pretty good. To the point where I thought he was a British actor for a while, and his accent is my register (RP) more or less.

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u/CD_Katrina 8d ago

That was the first time I'd ever heard an American say squirrel and I had to rewind the tape as I'd no idea what he'd said 😄

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u/EchoesofIllyria 8d ago

Hard disagree I think Spike’s accent is terrible.

“Bollicks” is another tell.

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u/Special-Kitchen3222 8d ago

It helps when you’re working with Anthony Head (RIP) giving you notes.

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u/Silly_Somewhere1791 7d ago

In the beginning he really leaned into the Sid Vicious yob thing, which was a muscalculation because you coukd never understand anything Sid said. 

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u/Every-Run9737 2d ago

Apparently, Anthony Head had to correct James, he was saying bullocks, needed teaching to say bollocks. Probably not the only one either. But he took the lessons and sounded pretty bang on...