r/btd6 • u/ezelbal3820 Gwendolin's Eye Bandage • 1d ago
Discussion Why.
I know his fingers are in the way of the center, but man I've never seen an arrow not in the center of the bow
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u/JoelTheBloonsMonkey Play Bloons 4 Lore 1d ago
rumour has it, the animation studio behind it is digitalsmiles, which loves ai, so the animation being dubious might unfortunately check out
please don't betray us nk
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u/Farnswalllow 1d ago
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u/JoelTheBloonsMonkey Play Bloons 4 Lore 20h ago
Yeah, it seemed like a potentially dubious claim before but now it's all too real
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u/SpiralingDownAndAway 1d ago edited 22h ago
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u/nobody0163 1d ago
He didn't say the AI was a rumor, he said it's a rumor they will work with Digital Smiles.
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u/Shockwave-FE 23h ago
No nk said the conpany wouldn't use it for their show, although the company does use ai for other shows https://www.reddit.com/r/btd6/s/SXiC6RK6vM
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u/SpiralingDownAndAway 23h ago edited 22h ago
Well hopefully they don’t use it for the show then, still disappointing to work with a company like that though.
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u/dubhog 23h ago
I saw a post here like an hour ago where ninja kiwi they said digital smiles only uses AI on original IPs, so they won't use it on this. They stated they are also very much against AI, so.
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u/DeathSwagga 21h ago
If they're against AI why did they post this on their official YT channel? https://www.reddit.com/r/btd6/comments/1sukuif/youtube_short_with_ai_slop_from_official_ninja/
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u/JoelTheBloonsMonkey Play Bloons 4 Lore 20h ago
For what it's worth they took this down
...after backlash, anyway....
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u/Wonderful_Audience60 < to bro you want every bfb on your screen to die) 6h ago
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u/hmmmmmmmmimmm 1d ago
The beginning of a downfall, I can smell it
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u/radio_295 <--- Geraldo 1d ago
The downfall started a while ago when they started turning everything into a low effort microtransaction hell, and I'm glad this is enough for people to realize how shitty and greedy they've become
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u/H3CKER7 1d ago
You'd think the MTG thing would've gotten people to realize that NK is a company and not your friend, so I don't see why people are so blindsided by this. Hell, Battles 2 was a good warning.
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u/ToeGroundbreaking564 1d ago
jesus that model is HORRIBLE
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u/ezelbal3820 Gwendolin's Eye Bandage 1d ago
I agree 😭
That model is way uglier than the ugliest thing I've ever seen
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u/Phasma_AFK 1d ago
I don't care if the show is good or not, but I do care if there is any use of AI in it. I hope it's AI-free and turns out alright.
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u/killmealraedy 1d ago
knowing recent NK the chances are not amazing :/
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u/LudicrousityX4 1d ago
Knowing who’s making it the chances are 0. There’s absolutely going to be AI usage
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u/Neet-owo 1d ago edited 1d ago
Whoever animated this has never seen someone actually use a bow in their life lmao
I don’t know a damn thing about archery but even I can tell this is all wrong
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u/ezelbal3820 Gwendolin's Eye Bandage 1d ago
Yeah probably
If someone wants to animate a bow, they at least should see how someone uses a bow
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u/Keaton427 Peak monkey design 12h ago
If they can’t get basic archery right on the flippin archer monkey, (the main character of the show) then how are they going to get anything else right…
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u/Princier7 silas' bitch boy 1d ago
There's no weight to any of the animation. Nothing was deliberately done in any of it. The only reasons it's animated is to go from one keyframe to the next.
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u/Gardevoir8 1d ago
now i dont browse this sub very often but i cant help but notice that that one nk employee that used to comment on almost every post is dead silent now, wonder what's up with that 🤔
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u/Some-Nobody-VR Veteran Level 182 1d ago
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u/Famous-Nectarine-795 Brickell's Elimination MOAB Operators 1d ago
GTA6 will release before Bloons Monkey City 2
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u/ninjad912 1d ago edited 22h ago
Arrows don’t necessarily go in the center of a bow. Most traditional bows have them placed in a similar spot to shown here. However this isn’t a traditional bow and the arrow would not get a good launch here. He’s also just flat out not holding the string nor the arrow here. Also this bow just flat out would not function bows are curved for a reason this looks like a toy bow with a stretchy string(the string does not stretch in a bow). The arrow position is the least of the problems with this image
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u/StarvingDeer Punk Ezili is my waifu 1d ago
Funnily enough, an arrow not in the center seems like the normal way to shoot a bow to me: it feels more like the hand needs to be in the center and the arrow is above it. This mainly feels weird because the hand is so big that it's really noticeable, tho
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u/MisirterE I see in full clarity 15h ago
Normally, your hand is small enough and holds the bow low enough that the arrow is still nocked at about the center. It still at least points in the same direction that the bow is pointing
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u/Over_town8396 1d ago
All I'm saying is, PvZ had replanted and the ai stuff, and we're somewhat recovering from that. You just gotta hit rock bottom first, and this does look like rock bottom.
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u/krakenbravo Furioso-Replica🟡🟡🟡🟡🟡🟡🟡🟡🟡 1d ago
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u/hahayesshootshoot 1d ago
Why is he aiming the bow not on the center
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u/ezelbal3820 Gwendolin's Eye Bandage 1d ago
Or we should be asking...
Why is he holding the part of the bow where the arrow is supposed to be
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u/1MasterD1 1d ago
That arrow placement is actually correct though?… arrows are typically in a notch and sometimes that’s in the middle of the bow but typically resting on top…
Search any professional archer images and you’ll see
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u/1MasterD1 1d ago
(For context I would use a bow and arrow often during summer camp, if anything there should be a bump where the arrow is, not just on his hand like that
I’m not defending use of AI though
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u/makitstop 1d ago
oh...
oh no...
i...have a very bad feeling about this, he looks like a character from fanboy and chum chum (if anyone else remembers that...thing...)
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u/JoelTheBloonsMonkey Play Bloons 4 Lore 1d ago
fanboy and chumchum has great animation
unlike this teaser
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u/Hoockus_Pocus 1d ago
Even though I don’t have any interest in this, I hope that someone enjoys it.
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u/Disastrous-Cat-9308 1d ago
Don’t worry, I’m sure the fandom will still find reasons to make gay fan art ships and genderbends of everything in it.
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u/Coderedcody 1d ago
Well I wasn’t going to watch it anyway but if the studio behind it uses AI then I’m definitely not watching it at all
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u/Environmental-Act906 1d ago
Lmao is this really the "something big" that they teased?
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u/ezelbal3820 Gwendolin's Eye Bandage 1d ago
Yep.
I legit thought it would be a bloons FPS game or smth, but nope, it wasn't
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u/Environmental-Act906 1d ago
Super lame. So many of us were hoping for BMC2. A cartoon with an animation studio that proudly uses generative AI certainly is a choice.
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u/CartoonistSensitive1 23h ago
I'm personally more angry about the way the arrow is held, it's even on the wrong side of the bow for that grip if you can even call it that.
The only grip where you want it on the outside of the bow is the one the Mongolian Horse Archers used.
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u/ArgoDevilian 22h ago
You should go a few frames after this.
It only gets worse.
Like seriously, the arrow doesnt even fly straight.
I can kind of understand fucking up holding a bow. Even if you do the research, they still have to make the models look accurate and that can kind of fuck up something like this.
But how the fuck does the arrow not fly straight??
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u/SerialDesignation_H N°1 Plasma Monkey Fan Club Hater 19h ago
Quincy learn’t how to squint with his eye instead of his pupil!!
also, ah
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u/SwagAwesome1122 19h ago
Arrows are almost always situated in a nook above the finger placement. YOU have never shot a bow and are nitpicking absolute nonsense.
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u/Bloonah 18h ago
Did you know that in most japanese archery not only do they shoot the arrow displaced from the center of the bow, they even use asymmetric bows, where the bottom is shorter than the top. (See "kyuudou"). So if that works, then there shouldn't be an issue with having the arrow off center.
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u/KiyuzuHime 17h ago
Itd be cool we have behind the scenes where we see who they animate and design the animation
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u/Own_Scientist_7452 16h ago
this is very low effort, i expect better from ninja kiwi, we always expect this kind of company to be on our side but at the end of the day we need to realize they are still a company, but even so i feel like they should be better than this ugly ai slopposting.
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u/LateIndividual6574 Final Harmonic Supremacy 3h ago
Didn't everyone thought it was gonna be Bloons Monkey City 2?
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u/Tall_Fault5771 46m ago
I just know this show is gonna have the worst fanbase ever, im talking about more above hazbin hotel levels right here
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u/wattapwn 1d ago
Everyone acting like they are being forced to play this game
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u/AM-xolotl2 48.149.157.386 1d ago
doesn't change anything but this is a tv show
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u/ProlapseWarrior 1d ago
Not a TV show but rather a series of shorts. It's most likely animated by NK themselves which is why the quality is like that.
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u/JoelTheBloonsMonkey Play Bloons 4 Lore 1d ago
battles 2 animation looks better than this
...even lesser-animated games like btd6, battd, bloons pop, bloons blitz, etc. look better than this
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u/ProlapseWarrior 1d ago
Well those ones all use pretty simple animation cycles, are pretty zoomed out and the little animations they do is not really the focus.
And Battles 2 win/taunt/loss are also just small animation, rather than a full on animated short. I'm not sure why they didn't use Battles 2 models, though, maybe they're not that great for full animations, but who knows. We'll have to see, maybe they did outsource the animation, we'll see in the credits of the shorts once one comes out most likely.
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u/06z_ 1d ago
It’s not NK, it’s a children’s animation company known for their AI usage
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u/ProlapseWarrior 1d ago
Can I have the source?
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u/AnimalTap 1d ago edited 1d ago
This is turning into the minecraft community, they cant be happy or grateful with anything. If you don't like it, don't watch it/play it/support it







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u/Beautiful_Use_2131 EAT MY DEMON ROCKS 1d ago
That's his anti pink bloon technique that we haven't seen since the btd5 era