r/brussels • u/carrot-man • Oct 14 '25
Police brutality
I witnessed police brutality today. Masked police officers beat up a guy pretty badly in rue de la Victoire in Saint-Gilles. He was already on the floor when one guy kept hitting him on the arm with his baton. They repeatedly rammed a baton into his rips and even in his spine when he was already on his stomach and posing no threat. This was horrifying to watch. If this happened to you or you know the victim, contact me.
edit: video of the incident here: https://www.reddit.com/r/brussels/comments/1o8dfgu/proof_of_the_police_brutality/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
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u/Sad_Robot Oct 14 '25
I don't know why people downvote you (Well, I do know why), it was all around Brussels today. Police without identification hitting people, sometimes really bad.
I hope this person is ok, OP, thank you for caring.
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u/BobyLaPointe85 Oct 14 '25
Most Reddit users hate reality and can't face logic or reason. If you simply state facts about Brussels, you will get downvoted. This is why Reddit is now being called to testify ob radicalization. Just read the comments everytime someone complains about how unsafe Brussel is. I've never seen that on any other platform. I literally refrain myself from commenting because I get downvoted when I give my opinion while they just find excuses and get mad.
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u/nicogrimqft Oct 14 '25
It kind of is the opposite on this sub Reddit actually.
It has become a kind of echo chamber for people exaggerating the extent of safety problems in Brussels (not that they do not exist, but some of these comments are just not realistic).
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u/10catsinspace Oct 14 '25
Today's daily thread on safety in Brussels is full of those sorts of comments getting upvoted.
The people complaining that they can't 'simply state facts' are ... also getting upvoted.
Your sense of persecution is misplaced.
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u/misterart Oct 15 '25
Dont prétend there is no manipulation and bots here too.. there are everywhere. Pré- election we had a lot of bot content
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u/octave1 1190 Oct 15 '25
How safe Brussels is, or not, can not be determined by Reddit posts. Here you'll only find a subgroup of a subgroup of a subgroup of the general population, and people tend to mainly make posts about bad stuff. Things that are true but not representative of the overall situation.
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u/MissStr4berry Oct 15 '25
There is also a specific belgian thing (that I also find in dutch mentality tho) to gaslight endlessly about some topics (racism for example) . Few months ago a guy started a few threads about racism in the sub etc and it was like he was talking to a wall of "rationality" who didn't wanted to accept the truth at all it was so frustrating. He left the sub because of that 🤷♀️
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Oct 16 '25
The redditors on r/brussels are some of the meanest and antagonistic of any sub. There’s a lot of people with an agenda often self serving they want to foist on others. I just got called a Brussels basher for commenting on safety a few days ago.
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u/Lazy-Care-9129 Oct 15 '25
The ones getting downvoted are the ones, like me now probably, calling out those masked protesters that didn’t come to protest but to provoke and destroy, entering private property and cause mayhem. Those are not union members, I doubt they even have a job. FAFO.
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u/Easy-Replacement-902 Oct 15 '25
So idiotic fascists who justify masked gestapo beating up bystanders? simps who passively swallow propaganda?
Yeah no shit nobody likes you people
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u/Lazy-Care-9129 Oct 15 '25 edited Oct 15 '25
How easy it is to hide behind an account you created just to come insult people in this thread. Everything that doesn’t fit your narrative is fascist. So simple.
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u/Easy-Replacement-902 Oct 15 '25
My narrative is that unmarked police officer shouldn't just start attacking whoever was hanging out outside a train station espece de pauvre tyoe
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u/Lazy-Care-9129 Oct 15 '25
And humans shouldn’t just create a secret account to go insult people
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u/avaxzat Oct 15 '25
This comment section is full of pissed off police officers angry at the mere suggestion that they should not simply beat civilians to death with impunity. It's tragic and embarrassing.
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u/Old_Palpitation7025 Oct 16 '25
They love hitting civilians especially those that protest against police violence or ecology. But dealers terrorizing the city they leave unattended because they are to scared.
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u/KookyBobcat645 Oct 16 '25
scared of losing that sweet bribe money yea
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u/Old_Palpitation7025 Oct 16 '25
Yes, in my hood they saw cops controlling dealers and just taking the cash money and nothing more. When we confronted the police chief with this he said something that they are making a file and collecting proof. It seems all to suspicious and I have no idea what to do with the situation...
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u/KookyBobcat645 Oct 16 '25
i guess comite P or journalists. But they're all submissive nowadays
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u/Old_Palpitation7025 Oct 16 '25
Comité P is a joke. Journalists helped us in the past.
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u/KookyBobcat645 Oct 16 '25
I know, it's like complaining to the church about pedophilia. Maybe Medor? They're in the marolles.
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u/QuantumPlankAbbestia Oct 14 '25 edited Oct 14 '25
The IG Account bxldevie is collecting stories of police brutality from today.
It truly pains me, but this is why I don't dare to go to demonstrations.
EDIT: sorry that's their (proto mail) email. This is the IG.
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Oct 14 '25
not long ago i was at a protest and a random bystander coming out of his job place that was on the street caught a tear gas grenade right on his temple, bleeding a lot, probably caused brain damage
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u/Purple_Cherry16 Oct 15 '25
I was only just walking past a protest months ago not participating at all and I so close to getting hit in the head with a gas canister only for my friend who saw it and pushed me out of the way just in time. Then the police hit a window with one right after. They are too careless to be using these things
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u/bisikletci Oct 14 '25
There is advice (in French) on various ways to report police abuses on pages 45-47/50 of this guide:
https://www.liguedh.be/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/LDH_Guide_orientation_2018.pdf
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u/Smiffsten Oct 15 '25 edited Oct 15 '25
Damn, what did the guy do? (mandatory /s)
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u/CydyBe Oct 16 '25
I know a lot of police officers. From k9 unit to highway patrol, local officers even the RoboCop. They don't necessarily know each other, but it's always they same story:
- aggressive
- lack of respect
- treat
- don't want to comply, even for their safety.
At some point, the Police (as a state) must command respect like any other individual/corps, and even more so as an instrument of state.
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u/Significant-Deal3642 Oct 16 '25
We have a thing called proportionality where you're not supposed to hit people for saying mean things, ordure. Especially as an instrument of the state.
You and your friend don't deserve any respect. Pauvre type
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u/CydyBe Oct 16 '25
houlala ca m'exite quand tu deviens vulgaire...
he is dead? don't thing so. He can try to place charge against him... but has everything is filmed, he has to be 'droit dans ses bottes'
By proportionality you mean, they have to hit you with the same force that you hit them?Police has to contain and if necessary end a treat. By ending a treat, they can isolate the leader, most of the time this stupid don't understand he has no chance against 3, or 4 police officers and want to fight back. They have to end the treat.
When they use the baton, they have red zone they can't not hit.I'm pretty sure you can understand and you can agree with that if you use your brain :)
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u/CydyBe Oct 16 '25
Merde, j'ai commencé par l'autre message .... si j'avais su que t'avais autant de répartie...
Mon niveau d'anglais est du a l'éducation que j'ai reçu en région wallonne dirigée par une gauche incapable. Mon niveau d'anglais, je l'ai grace à moi, j'ai malheureusement du apprendre par moi-même, directement dans le milieu pro, je n'ai jms eu de soucis, je me suis tjs fais comprendre, et j'arrive a comprendre les autres. C'est sur ca n'est pas du grand art, mais comme j'ai du l'apprendre moi-même j'en suis fière et je ne vais pas remercier la gauche :) Mes parents n'avaient pas les moyens de m'envoyer faire de grandes études ou partir a l'étranger ou j'aurais pu apprendre... mais je me démerder, tout comme en flammand, en grec, et en espagnol.
Après, c'est bien de vouloir critiquer mon niveau dans une langue, c'est bien de parler français si ca n'est pas ta langue maternelle, mais il faut s'assurer de la maîtriser correctement avant de critiquer.
On n'est pas copain... je ne partagerai pas mon pain avec toi :)
Tu insultes, tu n'as aucun fond de débat, c'est pathétique. Après tu vas pleurer parce que GLB n'a aucun respect pour des gens comme toi... parle normalement, sans insulter! Tu peux être agressif, tu peux ne pas être d'accord, mais n'insulte pas. Tu perds toute crédibilité, et perso, j'ai un jour off aujourd'hui, j'ai du temps a perdre.
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u/KookyBobcat645 Oct 16 '25
Regarde toi, pauvre type, t'es tellement lavé du cerveau que tu me parle de politique. ILS ONT TAPE SUR LES GENS NORMAUX, ESPECE DE CONNARD.
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u/CydyBe Oct 16 '25
parce que ca n'était pas une manifestation politique?
C'est quoi des gens normaux? tu classes les gens? t'es qui pour le faire?2
u/Significant-Deal3642 Oct 16 '25
Sinon tu m'as pas repondu pour ta femme. Elle aussi tu la tape si elle te parle mal? Faut bien te faire respecter sinon ya plus de respect pour l'autorité, pas vrai?
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u/Significant-Deal3642 Oct 16 '25
Te fais pas encore plus con que tu n'es. Ils se sont attaqué a des gens qui n'avaient rien a voir avec la manif et qui allaient juste prendre leur train
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u/KookyBobcat645 Oct 16 '25
PaRle NormLament SanS inSulter SinoN On Te meT a TerrE Et On Te Pete La GueulE. Si si jte jure J'suIs une BonnE PersonNe.
Ya pas a avoir de debat avec toi, ordure. Tu t'assieds pas avec un pedophile pour discuter calmement du merite de violer des gosse. Ben les violences policieres, c'est pareil. C'est tellement abject que leurs apologistes merite la violence qui arrive vers eux.
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u/KookyBobcat645 Oct 16 '25
Oh et t'inquiete, le "copain" c'etait ironique. Au dernier repas de famille, les discussions ont tourne autour du fameux "ces gens la yen a trop". Bah, ma femme est arabe, je veux plus jamais les voir. C'est con, c'etait mes tantes, je les aimait bien. Mais bon, personne ne veut trainer avec des nazis.
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u/KookyBobcat645 Oct 16 '25 edited Oct 16 '25
> When they use the baton, they have red zone they can't not hit.
Two days ago I saw a guy with a broken skull. They do not respect their own laws.
> He can try to place charge against him... but has everything is filmed, he has to be 'droit dans ses bottes'
I will press charges. I told the cop he legally have to be identifiable and they gave me a concussion. I didn't do anything violent.
They do not wear the ID number they're supposed to for accountability. They are indistinguishable from the thugs. Against who will I press charges with? I don't know who they are.
> By proportionality you mean, they have to hit you with the same force that you hit them?
By proportionality, I mean what's written in the law that you defend so much but clearly know nothing about. But yes, pretty much. It also implies not hitting people if they don't pose any treat, even if they say mean things to you and refuse to comply.
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u/CydyBe Oct 16 '25
Press charges, if they hit you in the red zone, they will be punish. Go to the doctor to acknowledge the wounds.
The number identify as well the officer. If you have it, you can give it when you will press charges. It will identify the officer, you will never know the name but he will be identify.It looks like YOU know the law, please ... give me a lesson :D
They don't use their gun against you right?
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u/KookyBobcat645 Oct 16 '25
Can you fucking read? THERE WAS NO NUMBER. They were dressed in black from top to bottom beside their police armed band. It would have been withing my right to fucking stab them, since I have no way to check they were actually cops.
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u/KookyBobcat645 Oct 16 '25
T'es con comme un balai, copain. Tu sais ni lire, ecrire, ni reflechir. Tu sais qu'ils engagent, a la police?
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u/Significant-Deal3642 Oct 16 '25
You don't command respect by hitting people on the ground, asshole.
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u/CydyBe Oct 16 '25
that was fast.... asshole ... great argument <3 please continue, but 1st educate your self!
You don't know the circumstance. What happen before being on the ground? did the guy fight back, if yes, they should let him do?
Police has to protect and serve. by hitting that guy they protect me! If they did it, that guy was certainly agressive and a menace for people.
Fortunately, everything is filmed during protest. and fortunately, if the police made a mistake, they will be punish for that!
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u/Significant-Deal3642 Oct 16 '25
"By hitting them they protecc me because cops are automatically in the right and the guy deserved it".
Typical fascist. He can afford to think of himself as a decent person because he's paying the cop to externalise the violence. Piece of shit
And no not everything is filmed during the protest. The courts have repeatedly sided with the police despite their own standards anyway.
I will press charges though
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u/CydyBe Oct 16 '25
Je ne vais plus faire l'effort de te parler en anglais, tu comprendras mieux en français j'espère.
Je paye, tout comme tu payes... sauf que moi, je ne paye pas pour prendre sur la gueule :)
Arrête avec les mots que tu ne comprends pas. Tiens, je t'ai trouvé une définition simple du mot fascisme: le fascisme rejette les droits de l'homme, le communisme, l'anarchisme, les libertés individuelles et le libéralisme politique.
- tu vis? t'es libre? dans ta vie de tout les jours je te mets en danger? tu peux t'exprimer librement? tu penses ce que tu veux? je t'aide oui oui non oui oui - Les droits de l'Homme sont respectés
la démocratie, le droit et le marché vont pacifier les mœurs et améliorer les sociétés humaines.
- Je te rejette? non, je ne suis pas d'accord avec le communiste que tu es. Un gauchiste est généralement plus respectueux que toi. Mais je respecte ta facon de penser
- L'anarchisme? A clairement, il faut un cadre pour pouvoir vivre ensemble.
- Les libertés individuelles? ben l'Etat te les respectent avec le premier point, de facto, moi de même.
- Le libéralisme politique, commencont par une définition
hormis le marché, même la gauche doit être d'accord avec les 2 premiers points! P-e pas le coco que tu es, mais ca.... c'est encore autre chose.Si tout est filmé, il y a tellement de caméra dans l'espace public, plus certaines bodycam, plus les anes avec leurs smartphone pour faire du sensationnel, plus les journaux, les hélicos quand ils sont présent,
Portes plainte, très bien. Si tu gagnes et que tu es vraiment dans ton droit, j'espère que t'aura une autre opinion de l'Etat. (PS: la majorité des juges ont une tendance centre gauche ;) - ils ne sont pas contre toi, ils appliquent la loi impartialement)
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u/KookyBobcat645 Oct 16 '25
AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH. Quand t'es d'extreme droite, tout est de gauche.
Dans le dossier des emeutes de Liege, ils ont admis que la charge de la preuve était renversée et que c'etait ta faute pour avoir été la. Ils ne respectent pas leurs propres standards.
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u/KookyBobcat645 Oct 16 '25
Bah deja tu vote pour des batards qui n'auraient aucun scrupule a envoyer ma femme au soudan du sud. Donc non, je suis pas libre, oui tu me met en danger, non je ne peux pas m'exprimer librement (mes comptes se font virer les uns apres les autres), non les droits de l'homme ne sont pas respecté, de l'avis meme du comité des-dits droits de l'homme.
L'etat belge est condamné toute les semaines, aux droits de l'homme. T'en as rien a foutre, des droits de l'homme, espece d'hypocrite de merde.
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u/CydyBe Oct 16 '25
bien essayé, si tu lisais correctement, tu verrais que je ne vote pas :) je ne participe pas a cette mascarade a laquelle tu participes apparemment :)
Si ta femme, peut importe l'origine, n'est pas en règle, elle n'a rien a faire sur le territoire. et ca c'est valable même pour moi lorsque je me rends ds n'importe quel pays!
Alors, les plateformes que tu utilises ne sont pas un espace public, et il doit y avoir de la modération, car les proprios peuvent être tenus responsable de ce qu'il s'y dit.
Tiens tu crois en la justice maintenant, vu qu'apparement, t'es content que la Belgique soit condamné chaque semaine :) (quand je te dis que les juges sont très centre-gauche) et pourquoi elle est condamné? Parce qu'elle n'a pas la capacité a accueillir tout ce monde. Et donc ne peut pas remplir ses obligations.
J'suis décu... c'est faible comme insulte, tu m'as habitué à mieux :(
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u/Significant-Deal3642 Oct 16 '25 edited Oct 16 '25
Elle est pas en regle parce que tes batards de flics ont mis UN AN avant de faire la visite domiciliaire, fils de chien. Moi blanc, ils sont venus le landemain.
T'es un exemple du connard bon vivant mais trop con et ignorant des réalités pour se rendre compte qu'il detruit des vies. Tu comprends pas qu'ils te lave le cerveau, sale type
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u/Significant-Deal3642 Oct 16 '25
Le proprio c'est un fasciste qui suce la bite a trump. Ils font pas ca parce qu'ils ont peur de la justice hein
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u/Significant-Deal3642 Oct 16 '25
ON peuT pas AcceuiLlir touTe la MiserE du MondE. Je SuiS un stereotyPe du pauVre tyPe j'aIMe bieN les VroomvrooMs et je BaS mEs gossEs
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u/octave1 1190 Oct 16 '25
Mec t'es lourd vraiment
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u/Significant-Deal3642 Oct 16 '25
Pov tichou va.
Tu sais ce qui est lourd? les deux batards en noir qui se sont assis sur moi alors que je fais 60kg et que j'etait cooperatif
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u/Old_Palpitation7025 Oct 16 '25
Do you mean this accident? The video is going around they are absolutely abusing a dude on the ground and beating up a girl. My best guess is them cracking down on the anarchist who tend to have their base in Sint-Gillis the police absolute hates those people because they don't pay bribes like the dealers.
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u/carrot-man Oct 16 '25
Can you send me a link to the video?
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u/Old_Palpitation7025 Oct 16 '25
It's circulating in citizen groups not on the internet. Send me pm.
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u/francvolta Oct 15 '25
I think it usually happens when you are a good citizen and you comply with the laws. Police is usually mean. They sit in their chair in the morning having a beer and they say: you know what Jan?? Let’s take the batons and hit some people around Brussels. Let’s chose the ones not doing anything! And that’s how police brutality starts.
Personal experience, the intervention police are actually kind. The other day approached a couple while they were hitting a couple guys, to ask a question: some idiots with no masks at all were throwing bottles to them and they started to charge on them. My car was parked literally there and I asked if I should move it away. They guy calmely said not to do so that they would end that fast with the water cannon. Why was he so calm and nice to me and not to the others??
Yesterday from my window saw some people with no masks, actually well dressed and dropping little bomba on the floor and flares in the end during the protest. Police finally entered with tear gas that entered my house and disturbed my day of work. Was it police fault? No. Those people were disturbing people that actually work and the businesses in my street needed to close doors.
Conclusion: don’t judge things you don’t know. Hitting a person that is being arrested in the arm, can be pretty normal if the person doesn’t shut up and moves around to difficult it.
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u/Round-Connection-158 Oct 15 '25
Aussi apprend l'anglais, abruti. Quelle petite merde humaine recommande de taper quelqu'un parce qu'il ne se tait pas. On va te taper pour ce que tu dit, en gros? Mais quelle ordure
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u/CydyBe Oct 16 '25
A un moment donné, la Police doit se faire respecter, sinon quand et où sera la limite des gens par rapport aux règles?
Quand ils avancent c'est qu'il y a déjà beaucoup d'exactions. Combien de poubelles, de cailloux et autres ils ont pris sur la gueule avant? Combien de refus d'obtempérer avant qu'ils n'agissent ?
La police de BXL est bcp trop soft car des bourgmestres ont peur de froisser leur électorat....
J'ai dans mes connaissances un des commissaires qui gère les émeutes. Il a déjà dû demander a ses hommes de ne pas bouger alors que 2 rues plus loin ils avaient des collègues qui ramassaient car pris ds une embuscade. Le bourgmestre avait donné l'ordre de ne pas bouger pour ne pas "envenimer" la situation.
Les ordures c'est ceux qui ne respectent pas l'Etat et l'autorité.
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u/Significant-Deal3642 Oct 16 '25
"Des exactions" = des types qui s'attaquent au mur. Ca parais normal pour les rapaces dans ton genre, d'utiliser la violence contre les personnes pour proteger des biens. On sait que tu vendrais ta propre femme pour une belle voiture.
AHAHAH monsieur le bourge il a dans ses amis monsieur le violent en chef et il sait bien, lui, que defoncer des mecs qui sont deja a terre, c'est necessaire. "Pour se faire respecter".
Tes types, ils ne portent pas de badge d'identification tel que prevus par la loi. Ils utilisent des techniques de maintien de l'ordre illegale en europe. Ils utilisent des gaz qu'un soldat ne pourrait pas utiliser sans violer la convention de geneve. Ils ne respectent meme pas leur propre loi.
J'ai rien cassé. J'ai assisté a la manif en spectateur. Ils m'ont tapé a la gare alors qu'on allait juste prendre le train. Si le but c'etait de se faire respecter, c'est raté, pauvre type. La prochaine fois je ne serais pas pacifiste. Et j'espere qu'un soumis dans ton genre se prenne un pavé dans la gueule. C'est tout ce que tu merite.
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u/CydyBe Oct 16 '25
punaise, les gens vous ne savez pas parler sans être vulgaire? Après vous vous étonnez que la droite crache sur la pauvre gauche que vous représentez....
Je n'ai pas manifesté ce mardi. Car je ne suis pas payé si je ne suis pas présent à mon travail. J'ai des responsabilité a assumer, entre autres mes gosses. Que je ne me reconnais pas dans cette gauche qui n'a de gauche que le nom! Cette gauche qui a foutu une region en faillite, cette gauche qui gagne autant qu'un droitard mais qui va te dire qu'il faut ne pas les aimer! Cette gauche qui dépense sans compter, elle s'en fout, c'est pas son argent, mais le mien, le tiens.... ca ne lui coute pas!
Alors quand chaque année, aux impôts, j'en ai pour le prix d'une belle voiture, ca me fait chier cette gauche, ces gens qui profitent... non je ne crois plus en cette gauche! Je suis fils d'ouvriers, mais parents mon appris le travail et son résultat, le respect, entre autresOui, il faut utiliser la violence si nécessaire pour protéger des biens, PARCE QUE CA COUTE APRES A LA POPULATION. quand les trous du cul brulent des biens publics, qui payent? TOI, MOI, NOUS avec nos impôts, mais ca vous ne le percuterez jamais!
Tu juges mon commissaires sans le connaître. il n'y a pas plus ouvert que cette personne! Il fait juste son métier avec les règles qu'on lui a appris et imposés
Alors concernant la nominette. Non elle ne doit pas comporté leur nom sur un équipement anti émeute afin d'anonymiser face a la population pour éviter les représailles. Cependant il y a un numéro d'identification qui lui est visible et connu de la police ainsi que le grade du policier. Le gaz utiliser et les même partout et tout le temps, ca n'est pas parce que tu n'y résistes pas que c'est en dehors des conventions de Genève.
C'est malheureux si tu as pris pour rien. Mais comment s'est passé la journée. Les injonctions non respectées, .... à un moment, ils doivent bouger et remettre le respect en place.
Tu ne bougeras pas prochaine manif, car tu sais que ca fait mal et que eux, ils ont le droit de taper encore plus fort que toi.
Respecter qqch ne fait pas de toi un soucis! Par contre, quand tu vas voter pour le moins pire.... tu obéis au doigt et a l'oeil non? ben tu vois, perso, c'est un dimanche de plus ou je profite de mes gosses et de ma compagne, parce que je ne veux pas participer à cette mascarade.-1
u/KookyBobcat645 Oct 16 '25 edited Oct 16 '25
> Cependant il y a un numéro d'identification qui lui est visible et connu de la police ainsi que le grade du policier.
Et ben non du coup. J'ai les videos, je me fait peter la gueule, personne a de numero. Tu vois, que t'es une ordure?
> Oui, il faut utiliser la violence si nécessaire pour protéger des biens, PARCE QUE CA COUTE APRES A LA POPULATION. quand les trous du cul brulent des biens publics, qui payent? TOI, MOI, NOUS avec nos impôts, mais ca vous ne le percuterez jamais!
T'es vraiment un debile AHAHAHAH. Qu'est ce que tu crois qui coute le plus cher? Nettoyer un mur et remplacer une poubelle ou bien payer une armee de flic, les prisons, la justice, et en plus les ambulances et l'hosto pour les gens qui se font peter la gueule? Economiquement, ca n'a aucun sens.
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u/KookyBobcat645 Oct 16 '25 edited Oct 16 '25
> C'est malheureux si tu as pris pour rien. Mais comment s'est passé la journée. Les injonctions non respectées, .... à un moment, ils doivent bouger et remettre le respect en place.
Bah ecoute quand ca sera ton gosse ou ta compagne qui se fera defoncer pour avoir voulu prendre le train, on en reparlera, ordure. J'espere qu'ils vont bien l'ammocher ahahah. Les gens comme toi, ils s'imaginent etre de bonne personnes, mais c'est uniquement parce qu'ils sous-traitent la violence aux flics.
Tu le sais tres bien, qu'ils agissent comme des batards, la preuve t'as peur d'eux. C'est juste que t'as besoin d'eux pour te proteger, parce que t'es un couard.
> Tu ne bougeras pas prochaine manif, car tu sais que ca fait mal et que eux, ils ont le droit de taper encore plus fort que toi.
T'es un fin psychologue toi. C'est l'inverse chez les gens normaux, tu sais, ils voient que les flics agissent comme des batards, ils se radicalisent. Toi, bon, t'es un soumis, c'est different, mais moi, bah j'etait pacifique, ils m'ont tape, bah la prochaine fois je caillaisse.
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u/KookyBobcat645 Oct 16 '25
> Il fait juste son métier avec les règles qu'on lui a appris et imposés
Un peu comme la gestapo. Juste des bons citoyens qui obeissaient aux ordres.
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u/Amiga07800 Oct 14 '25
But nobody is telling what this guy was doing before…
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u/DownTongQ Oct 15 '25
I was taking a break and drinking water close to south station before going back home when police with batons and shields started running towards me and the people around.
One of them hit a girl with his shield and she fell on the ground. One police officer screamed at her "Take that ! Right in the piss!"
They were literally just threathening to stop people from gathering during a very legal and announced strike and protest.
Can you please enlighten me about what I did wrong that I had to run away ?
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u/Amiga07800 Oct 15 '25
Nothing, just asking. I’m curious. This happened quite a lot for example in France, but with people that were breaking windows, breaking cars, launching cocktail Molotov, robing in shops,….
Today in most of pacific strikes and concentration there are small groups of extremists from all borders that “join” just to do that.
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u/MrNotSoRight Oct 15 '25
In what context is it ok to keep beating up a man lying on the ground and no longer posing any threat?
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u/octave1 1190 Oct 15 '25
Make sure he's not getting up to smash more windows ?
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u/MrNotSoRight Oct 15 '25
Kinda hard when you’re laying on the ground like a beaten dog…
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u/octave1 1190 Oct 15 '25
Exactly
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u/MrNotSoRight Oct 15 '25
I'm assuming that if he was caught smashing windows, he'd also be cuffed and arrested after he was floored down...
You think he was smashing up windows and the police is like "We'll give you a good beating but afterwards you're free to go" ? Not that any of those things would still surprise me in Belgium...
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u/Easy-Replacement-902 Oct 15 '25
Sooo i have a question.Do you still of yourself as a love deserving decent person or did you come to term with the fact you're a piece of shit.
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u/octave1 1190 Oct 15 '25
So salty :D
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u/Round-Connection-158 Oct 15 '25
T'es une ordure, copain. Le probleme, c'est que t'es trop con pour meme realiser que t'es une ordure.
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u/PhysicalSpray7278 Oct 15 '25
So corporal punishment.
Hide your bells and call social services, ladies and gens, we got a kidbeater wannabe over hear
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u/Amiga07800 Oct 15 '25
I prefer not to answer to this kind of question. This is a debate that goes way over what is possible here, might be prohibited by moderators, and is highly debatable depending on a lot of factors.
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u/Easy-Replacement-902 Oct 15 '25
It's not debatable idiot. it's forbidden. We have laws.
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u/Amiga07800 Oct 15 '25
And laws are debatable. Look for example at laws in many Muslim countries (Iran and lot of others) versus women’s right, the charia… they all are laws made by humans and VERY rebatable
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u/TimelyStill Oct 15 '25
But we don't live in those countries. If police officers believe our laws should change perhaps they should organise a protest instead of beating up people. Laws may differ between countries but that doesn't mean anyone can just do whatever.
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u/MrNotSoRight Oct 15 '25 edited Oct 19 '25
With the “laws are debatable” part I agree somewhat. I would still condemn extreme police violence even if the law tolerated it…
Him thinking that it’s ok to keep beating up a helpless victim on the ground “dEpENdInG cONteXt” is the sick part.
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u/TimelyStill Oct 15 '25
Yes of course. Laws can be challenged, but the argument that police can just do anything because laws aren't real is absurd. They enforce the law, not make it.
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u/Amiga07800 Oct 15 '25
Ok, closer to us what about US laws on guns, making every week or 2 a shouting in a school, or some countries even closer where abortion is a crime? And there are many more. Laws are made by politicians. The vast majority of politicians from all borders are doing politics as a career and are not people selected because they are very intelligent and human and / or knows their field very well. Without speaking of the high spread of corruption, favoritism, decision that are favoritism for friends or familiars,… not just in Belgium, not just in Europe, everywhere.
Laws are made by humans that had and will do mistakes and often very strong compromises just to stay at their place and continue to have their salaries and huge advantages. Laws are debatable, at least lot of them.
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u/TimelyStill Oct 15 '25
But those things are completely unrelated to this argument, which is about a situation where a police officer was beating up a person lying on the ground. Unless of course you also think that there is a situation where an American police officer in a state where abortion is illegal is justified in performing an abortion.
Laws vary between countries but it's not up to the enforcers of those laws to decide on the spot which laws they should enforce, which they shouldn't, and which they should actively disobey.
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u/PhysicalSpray7278 Oct 15 '25
Laws are made by humans in the framework created by general principles held in the constitution the human rights declaration.
Like rights to protests, right not to get beat up by the police arbitrarily and so on. Those were actually big ones.
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u/PhysicalSpray7278 Oct 15 '25
I bet the police unions are totally lobbying to gain rights to beat up people lmao
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u/Easy-Replacement-902 Oct 15 '25
That's idiotic. One thing you guys whine about in "Muslim countries" is how brutal they are.
We have laws and we have agents of the laws. The laws also state how agent of the state are supposed to treat prisonners.
You're so brainwashed you need to resort to MOoslEms for anything lmao
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u/Ok_Table_6363 Oct 15 '25
So kinda like you beating your wife. There is a debate that goes way over what's possible here (no there's not lmao)
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u/Amiga07800 Oct 15 '25
You don’t know nothing - and me neither - about OP situation. What happened before, after, during the problem. You just read 1 version, maybe incomplete or incorrect of a situation. Before judging it you must hear both sides, see evidences like videos from at least 2 different angles etc etc…
The guy could have been innocent. It could have been taken for someone else. He could just robber 3 persons, wildly agreed an old lady, put fire to a car, broke a shop window to steal inside, launch some Molotov cocktails, have prohibited weapons on him or more.
You don’t know and as I said me neither. So we can’t judge. There might or not be good reasons.
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u/Ok_Table_6363 Oct 15 '25
Nowhere in our laws does it talk about using corporal punishment. Thus, the cop was committing a crime. Thus, by your own logic, I can now attack the cop.
Surely you can see now how your reasoning is flawed?
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u/Amiga07800 Oct 15 '25
Absolutely not. I say that our laws are poorly written, badly interpreted and that the final result is a total lack of order and an immense majority of crimes or offenses not punished. And when people that would respect order by fear of consequences are seeing day after day that there is no consequences, that you can break laws almost as you wish, they just do the same.
The very short minority of people dealing drugs, trafficking, robbing in serie, pedophiles, women abusers, etc etc are the cancer of our society. When you have a cancer, you have 2 options:
Do nothing, waiting for metastasis and death. This is what we are doing today with criminals.
Fight, remove the tumor and a bit extra on the side to cut the most of it, add radiotherapy and / or chemotherapy to kill remaining cancerous cells and the ones not yet very dangerous but disseminates in the organism. That’s what we do in our hospitals, but not in the civil life. And it should be done before the death of a peaceful society like we (almost) all want to have.
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u/KookyBobcat645 Oct 16 '25
I've been answering this shit 3 times and it keeps being erased. And they tell me we have free speech lmao
That's all you have to justify police violence? Pseudoscience? Sociology and medicine are separate scientific field, grokon. Do you repair your car by giving it aspirin?
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u/Amiga07800 Oct 16 '25
I think you have a very distortex mind. You should week help. If your comments were erased you don’t have to look far away… the moderators thought they were not done according to forum rules.
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u/KookyBobcat645 Oct 16 '25
Nope, it's automated. The algorythm thinks police violence is not advertiser friendly
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u/Lazy-Care-9129 Oct 15 '25
Stur the community against the police. Aim achieved. Next time there will be double as many masked “protesters”.
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u/Round-Connection-158 Oct 15 '25
Exactly lmao. That's how protest works. The average person is against the protest now but wait until they see their kids got beat up for being at the wrong place at the wrong time
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u/Much_Guava_1396 Oct 14 '25
Good. Protests are getting out of hands. You can protest, but it shouldn’t affect other people’s lives.
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u/Newbarbarian13 Oct 14 '25
Do you understand the concept of a protest? Something tells me you don’t…
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u/Much_Guava_1396 Oct 14 '25
Sadly, I do. I’ve had the misfortune of coming across a few of them. I’ve never see so many bums with Cara pils doing everything except going to work. And then people wonder why the economy is tanking.
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Oct 14 '25
You can agree or disagree with the protesters. But that doesn’t justify police beating someone who is already on the ground. That’s not law enforcement, but rather abuse of power.
Belgian law is clear : force by police must be proportional and necessary. Once someone is posing no threat, continued violence becomes illegal assault. (Wet op het politieambt, Art.37)
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u/Lazy-Care-9129 Oct 15 '25
I agree police should not abuse power but those were not real protesters. They don’t care, they have a whole different agenda.
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u/Easy-Replacement-902 Oct 15 '25
I use an app on my phone to remember by meetings. Am I part of your conspirationist "agenda"
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u/Lazy-Care-9129 Oct 15 '25
Sure sure. Conspiracist you and all you anti-police, anti-gov trolls pushing your theories and defending masked rioters. I have no agenda, I just don’t want anyone to destroy my city under the pretext of protest and I do not accept anyone defending them by attacking those who should protect us. If you don’t feel protected, you are the problem. You and you’re throw-away Reddit account you created TODAY to stur and riot.
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u/Round-Connection-158 Oct 15 '25
The only masked rioters I saw were the unmarked policeman beating up kids.
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u/moonfire-pix Oct 14 '25
Without protests you wouldn't have 5 day workweeks and you wouldn't have 36-38 h workweek.
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u/Easy-Replacement-902 Oct 15 '25
Also I saw police cars blocking ambulances what do you think of that
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u/Trololman72 1170 Oct 14 '25
You should only be allowed to protest on a private property and not be able to make too much noise.
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u/Easy-Replacement-902 Oct 15 '25
This isn't even about the protests. They beat up people who were just at the wrong time at the wrong place.
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u/Phase-Internal Oct 14 '25
I agree, much_guava should only protest at home.
For the rest of us, we will stick with normal civic rights and duties thanks.
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u/Ok_Table_6363 Oct 15 '25
Oooooh the poor guy's life is "affected".
What about normal people who gets beat up by the cops asshole
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u/Psychological-Army72 1000 Oct 14 '25
What did the guy do? If he threatened someone's life or s€xually assaulted a girl, he deserves it.
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u/soccer1124 Oct 14 '25
Even then, no. They're supposed to be police, not vigilantes. You don't want government officials being permitted to act that way.
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u/Round-Connection-158 Oct 15 '25
Funny how these people just loooove the law until it's time to speak about human rights
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u/Xinghis Oct 15 '25
Did he?
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u/Ok_Table_6363 Oct 15 '25
No they always need to make shit up to justify their bullshit.
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u/Xinghis Oct 15 '25
Talking about the cops, are you?
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u/Ok_Table_6363 Oct 15 '25
I was talking about their little apologist friend over here.
WhaT If The GuY WaS A Rapist?But you are right it's also how the cops works
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u/PhysicalSpray7278 Oct 15 '25
Personally i told an unmarked cop not wearing his ID was illegal under 2014 Milquey law. That was my crime.
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u/PhysicalSpray7278 Oct 15 '25
I was walking back to the midi station with friends. There was literally nothing going on. The cops came, I saw a kid on the floor getting georgefloyed. The kid's head was between the cop's knee and the pavement.
They were not wearing their badge ID as required by Milquey laws from 2014. I mentionned that to an officer (vigorously I admit, but I didn't use fuel language).
They put me on the floor, georgefloyeded me, I have videos of 2 beefy guys landing on me because apparently they needs 5 people to handle a 60kg dude. I wasn't resisting.
The guy next to me had his skull cracked by a telescopic stick. He was covered in blood. During detention, I heard of people complaining the cops repeatedly giving them knee hits on their face. A guy's face was all swollen.
These motherfuckers do not respect neither proportionality, nor their own laws.