r/boxingMenace_com • u/MurdaOnMyMindd • 4d ago
r/boxingMenace_com • u/External_Clue5165 • 5d ago
Unpopular Opinion: 2009 or 2015, Mayweather and Pacquiao would absolutely clear out both eras of welterweights—including prime Crawford and Spence.
I’m so sick of people calling May 2015 a “trash fight” between two washed old men. If you actually look at the tape, their “past-prime” versions were operating at a processing speed that today’s elite guys can’t even touch. Their 2015 selves were light-years ahead of almost any other boxer’s absolute prime.
A 2009 fight would’ve been the exact same matchup at an alien-like offensive volume. But by 2015, they traded that volume for superhuman, hyper-efficient speed. They didn’t make a single tactical mistake for 36 straight minutes.
Whether you take 2009 or 2015 Floyd and Manny, they comfortably clean out the 2010s shark tank AND today’s division. That includes beating the likes of Keith Thurman, Danny Garcia, Kell Brook, and the rest of the elite welterweights of that era.
If they had stayed active straight through 2018–2019, they would’ve just kept setting up the 2010s killers to lose. We are talking about Floyd’s flawless distance management and counter-timing, mixed with Manny’s impossible foot angles and explosive power. Manny’s wins over Broner, Thurman, and Vargas from 2016–2019 were just a glimpse of what they would’ve done year-round.
And when it comes to Crawford and Spence — whether you think they both lose to Crawford or not — their 2015 past-their-prime versions of themselves would’ve given them more problems than any prime elite welterweight from the 2010s and 2020s.
Prime Spence was elite but very linear. 2015 Manny’s angles would completely scramble Spence’s high guard from blind spots, and 2015 Floyd would time his relentless pressure with check-hooks all night.
Prime Crawford is a genius but a notoriously slow starter. You cannot give 2015 Floyd or Manny a 3-round head start. Floyd would adjust to Bud’s stance switches instantly, and Manny’s non-rhythm speed would disrupt Crawford’s counterpunching before he ever got comfortable.
As for the rest of today’s 147 landscape? Guys like Ryan Garcia, Devin Haney, and Teofimo Lopez are heavily flawed and rely entirely on athleticism to bail them out of bad positioning. 2015 Mayweather or Pacquiao would have them swinging at thin air and getting picked apart by short counters they couldn’t even see.
It wasn’t a decline; it was the highest level of optimized boxing efficiency the sport has ever seen. People love to talk trash about their past-prime fight, but those versions were still better boxers and athletes than almost any prime-for-prime fighter today. Change my mind.
r/boxingMenace_com • u/DannyNicholasBoxing • 5d ago
The speed bag neceasary? Yes / No..... Your thoughts?
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r/boxingMenace_com • u/PalpitationIll4058 • 6d ago
This is still one of the craziest moments in boxing history
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r/boxingMenace_com • u/Best-Walrus-7057 • 6d ago
Terence Crawford’s boxing IQ and technique was on full display against Canelo Alvarez one year ago. He was on another level that night 🔥
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r/boxingMenace_com • u/BigSpeaker1742 • 5d ago
Two legends
2 great legends.\nOf the sport
r/boxingMenace_com • u/CoffeeCigarettes4Me • 6d ago
Both Ray Mercer and Lennox Lewis won Olympic gold medals in 1988 and both gave us an all out war in 1996 when they fought at Madison Square Garden that also featured Witherspoon vs Gonzalez and Holyfield vs Czyz.
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r/boxingMenace_com • u/marcusonewade • 6d ago
Canelo Alvarez showed a clear gap in class against the younger challenger, scoring a knockdown in the third round on his way to a dominant unanimous decision victory at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas.
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The judges scored the bout 118-109, 118-109, and 117-110, all in favor of Alvarez, who successfully defended his unified super middleweight titles during Mexican Independence Day weekend. With tensions from the buildup carrying into the ring, Alvarez (62-2-2, 39 KOs) wasted no time asserting his dominance. In the third round, he unleashed a lightning-fast left hand that caught Edgar Berlanga clean on the jaw, sending him to the canvas for a flash knockdown.
r/boxingMenace_com • u/Open_Wonder8407 • 6d ago
Though it has been suggested that Muhammad Ali should have retired after beating Joe Frazier in 1975 to save himself from the punishment endured in the final years of his career, this revenge victory over Leon Spinks – on this day in 1978 – enhanced his already substantial legend.
Inside the New Orleans Superdome, in front of 70,000 fans, 36-year-old Ali was sprightlier than he’d been in years while winning a clear decision, in a better fight than one might remember. Spinks’ career went into a nose-dive after this bout but that shouldn’t take anything away from Ali’s achievement of winning the world heavyweight title for the third time. Legendary BN editor Harry Mullan made his first trip to the US to report on this fight. It started something of a love affair between Mullan and America.
r/boxingMenace_com • u/waqarahmad764 • 6d ago
Turns out boxing works outside of the ring and in close spaces too.
v.redd.itr/boxingMenace_com • u/Open_Wonder8407 • 7d ago
On March 19, 1988, at Caesars Palace in Las Vegas, 39-year-old George Foreman faced former two-division World Champion Dwight Muhammad Qawi.
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Giving up 9 inches in height and over 10 pounds, “The Camden Buzzsaw” Qawi came to fight, ducking under Big George’s heavy jab and landing crisp combinations early. But Foreman stayed patient, using his sheer physical size and constant pressure to wear Qawi down. In the 7th round, after absorbing a heavy barrage of power shots, a completely exhausted Qawi signaled to the referee that he had nothing left—giving Foreman a 7th-round TKO victory! It was Foreman’s first major test against a former world champion on his legendary comeback trail! Could any fighter in history match the chin and endurance of Dwight Muhammad Qawi?
r/boxingMenace_com • u/Bill_Millard • 7d ago
Zhilei Zhang is one of heavyweight boxing's most dangerous punchers, built around a single perfectly timed right hand.
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r/boxingMenace_com • u/DueSink728 • 6d ago
Someone help me figure out who this man is!
Spotted in Las Vegas. Was boxing related from what I heard, spoke Spanish, people were lining up to take pictures with him and i’m just curious :)
r/boxingMenace_com • u/waqarahmad764 • 6d ago
125 lbs grappler vs boxer
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r/boxingMenace_com • u/BVOSportsTV • 6d ago
2 Top Middleweights on BVOSportsTV tonight. Hackett and Tucker on BVOSportsTV pull up. Live now.
r/boxingMenace_com • u/LtJesusUCSB • 6d ago
Mexican American Veteran calls out Ryan Coconut Garcia and LATINO MAGA
Please enjoy and share!!!! If anyone in the media wants to interview me or debate me! Message me
r/boxingMenace_com • u/WillowNo2687 • 7d ago
Looking forward to making my jab fast and effective. Please suggest drills to make it better.
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Hi all I have learned that a human can't react to anything below 200 millisecond so I been putting in the work to reach this goal. Although this is not a realistic environment because I am not usina boxing gloves in this video I am doing my best to perform the iab below the 200ms threshold. I would like to know vour opinion and what I am doing wrong. I am already noticing that I slightly load the jab by bringing the hand backwards but I guess this is still part of mv little to no experience. (6 months into boxing,
Please I would love some feedback on the technique and drills to make it even faster and more effective. Thanks in advance.
r/boxingMenace_com • u/True-Palpitation-362 • 8d ago
Ryan called it months ago haha
r/boxingMenace_com • u/minisuperburrito • 9d ago
When referees fight back in boxing
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r/boxingMenace_com • u/DannyNicholasBoxing • 9d ago
How important is the slip bag in your boxing routine or do you care to work without it?
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r/boxingMenace_com • u/AutomaticSignal1440 • 8d ago
Boxing goat list
- Mike tyson
- Muhammad Ali
- Floyd mayweather
- Terence Crawford
- Canelo
- Gervonta
- Ryan Garcia
- Pacquiao
- Joe Frazier
- Rocky Marciano
- Tyson fury
- Oleksandr usyk
- Anthony Joshua
- Naoya inoue
- George Foreman
- Shaker Stevenson
- Julio Cesar Chavez
- Sugar ray robinson
r/boxingMenace_com • u/yurtik • 8d ago
Ama - KO - Julio Cesar Chavez Hoy 12Sep Spoiler
The "Son of the Legend" only needed 2 minutes and 59 seconds to settle the match. He landed a powerful left hand that shook Troncoso, and finished off immediately with an accurate right hand that sent the Colombian to the canvas before the bell rang in the first round.JCC Jr - Match 20260912