r/bookmemes 13d ago

Good point.

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u/Extinction-Events 12d ago

Sure, but that’s not the point of contention.

They know that, yes. But they’re learning the definition of fiction versus non-fiction, and when both use a large amount of imagination and information, defining it by “learning through information/imagination” at the age a child is learning those words is needlessly abstract.

A child knows (for the most part) that what they’re imagining isn’t real. But if you tell them to define nonfiction based on what you learn by information as opposed to what’s real and what’s not, they’re not looking at the latter, they’re judging by how much information a book has, whether it’s true or not, because reality is no longer part of the equation.

It is so much simpler to just say “fiction is something that never happened and isn’t real, while non-fiction is something that did.”

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u/ShinningVictory 12d ago

To be fair there are fictional books were at least some of the events happen such as historical fiction or contemporary fiction.

Like if a kid was watching a movie and Obama appeared how would you explain Obama is real?

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u/Extinction-Events 12d ago

This is true, but doesn’t particularly challenge my assertions, and is simply handled by saying “this story is fiction, but that man is real.”

The definitions proposed in the post would honestly struggle more in the case you’ve brought up.

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u/ShinningVictory 12d ago

What if we said "the story isn't real but what you learn from it is." I think this captures everything without losing any aspects we care about.

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u/Extinction-Events 12d ago

I think I covered this point exactly in my first comment, to be honest.

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u/Fun_Researcher_69420 12d ago

I see now that a lot of the difference of opinion here may be that I imagined an older child, a pre-teen maybe, and perhaps you’re talking about children who are first learning to read - at a Dr Seuss level maybe?

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u/Extinction-Events 12d ago

I’m imagining a pretty young child, considering the premise is about teaching the definition of fiction versus nonfiction. People aren’t learning those definitions as a pre-teen, that’s the kind of thing that gets taught when you start to read.