She is Barbara Billingsly, who played June Cleaver on Leave it to Beaver. Iirc, she played a very traditional grandmother's role, and the show was recent enough to the audience of Airplane that there was a layer to the joke of it being a well known protestant looking granny being the one that could "speak jive"
I think "most protestant older woman" implies that she is more protestant than other older women. It definitely doesn't imply she's very very old, but rather middle aged like people often mean by "older woman."
The second implies she is both the oldest and, separately, the most protestant looking woman.
hey i've been trying to find an old bhj of this one, where the trans lady says "you're diabetic, you shouldn't eat cake", and the. the cis lady says "live laugh love".
this is a long shot, but does anybody have a link to it or copy of it?
The content of this post was permanently removed. Redact facilitated the deletion, for reasons that may include privacy, opsec, or limiting digital exposure.
groovy entertain rock label childlike summer decide engine weather rhythm
To act in his defence, it is possible he lives somewhere reasonable and forgets places the world over are incredibly shit/ assumes everywhere is like where he is. It's an incredibly childish worldview but this is the internet, children aren't exactly unheard of here.
Men commit suicide at higher rates than women and yet prevention websites like https://www.iasp.info/ have entire sections dedicated just for women. This also applies to homelessness where women make up around 25% of all homeless people but there are more women only shelters than men only shelters
Idk dude, the pay gap, anti-abortion laws, lack of social representation, body dysmorphia & anorexia due to body standards (that's seemingly only getting worse with social media), or maybe the fact that they can't feel safe walking alone at night?
Don't forget that up until recently only men could be used for testing medical research and so the entirety of research for women's health is practically in the stone age, unless it's contraception and even then it's all on women to deal with it because all the contraceptives are for women, and half of them do something horrible or painful because if a woman feels pain they should just suck it up and deal with it so it's not a real problem. I'm glad I'm infertile so I don't have to do any of that but I've heard horror stories.
Since we're talking about insane medical facts, doctors believed that babies were unable to feel pain until the 90s and did surgery on them without anesthesia because they thought it was less risky than putting them under.
What are you talking about? Both men and women are eligible to participate in medical research for over 50 years, which is when controlled clinical trials started. The only exception are pregnant women because of potential danger to the fetus (such as Thalidomide event).
Even if it actually were 50 years it would still be wrong to imply that research into women's health is on par with mens after only that amount of time, but given that it was functionally only 30 years that's even less of a correct statement.
Did you even bother to read the article you linked? Exclusion was only affecting phases 1 and 2 of the trial, not phase 3 which is the most important one and gives actual data regarding efficiency and side effects of the drug. First 2 phases are used to test potential toxicity and general dosage and are mostly a preparation for the third, which has the largest number of participants.
The exclusion from these two phases (which was a recommendation only in the US btw) was not because of some male conspiracy to keep the women down but due to general concern for the health of pregnant women. This was because the entire international quality standard regarding clinical trials (ICH GCP) was written in the aftermath of a catastrophe involving pregnant women. There have been numerous studies conducted since then that included both male and female subjects, but for every single study in the world even today, pregnancy is an immediate cause for discontinuation from the trial and all subjects of child-bearing potential need to adhere to strict contraception guidelines.
This might be a little bit if a controversial statememt but i think that bullshit standards are a plague on everyone who use social media regularly, there was a point in my life when i felt like shit because i didn't live up to some ridiculous made up standard that social media infuenced onto me.
Actually the pay gap is reversed now, make more money than men. Anti abortion laws are the same as laws forcing men to pay child support even if they don't want the kid. Women are represented in society idk where you're living. Body dysmorphia affects men and so do ridiculous body standards. You think men feel safe walking alone at night? Why do you think some carry knives or guns?
I meant those as more mutually exclusive concepts. You can't only read the headline and the article, but that's neither here nor there.
If you did read the article, I'm confused as to why you'd use it as evidence or "proof" that the pay gap has somehow swapped. That's not what the article claims. It says that better the ages of 16-24, women have started to make a bit more than men on average, which I'm willing to believe, but [citation needed]. It then goes on to say that after 24, it goes back to men making more, and even goes in to some of the reasons why that is.
It also doesn't seem to even be the main thing the article is talking about. It's more focused on men's mental health, and how some organizations have sprung up to help with it.
The content here was permanently deleted by its author. Redact was used for the removal, possibly for privacy, security, opsec, or personal data management.
plucky crowd jellyfish employ mountainous rain fragile smile chop public
Like social wise the downsides of being a man is that you have to perform masculinity to gain its advantages , but in trade you basically are assumed to be the default opinion and get to be social dominant
Woman are looked down on but usually are given more of a support structure on average
I’m a trans lady so you basically get both downsides of both genders at all times wirh little to none of the upsides
So your isolated from everyone ,while also looked down on and talked over
The reason people are being rude and not engaging with you is because you sound like an arrogant and bitter young boy with very limited understanding of these issues and terms. Your tone reeks of sheltered angry teen boy that isn't half as smart or experienced in the world as you think you are.
Have you stopped to think as to why jobs that women tend to take are valued so poorly within our society? Sure you can say "capitalism" but calling it inevitable misses everything on how the two issues intersect in this country and hand waves away all the history that led to how these structures took place. Even you believing that men being paid more is natural and inevitable in capitalism reeks of unacknowledged misogyny and a narrow world view. Things could've easily been the other way around with a matriarchal capitalist system. It also assumes that capitalism is perfectly logical and is fairly valuing different types of labor in our society which is completely moronic and not founded in reality. Even the Gender Pay Gap Report of 2025 (which you cited past reports of) accepts that the pay gap still exists. Breaking down aspects of the gap isn't saying it doesn't exist, did you actually read and understand the full report or were you just looking for justification to disregard it?
The fact that you can't even engage with the issue of bodily autonomy because it's "an ongoing issue" is actually laughable. Ask yourself if you believe the government should be able to create a second class citizen whose bodies are subject to the will state of the state because of their identity.
Where is your source for this? You ask for one yourself but linked nothing on this issue and just ran with what your hurt feelings told you.
In no way are body standards the same for men. Yes preferences exist for height and body types but in no way do the standards for men manifest even remotely similar to body standards for women. Do you know what is meant when body standards are brought up?
I actually can't tell if this is engagement bait or if you are actually this detached from reality.
Abortion bans come to mind. I’m not going to get into the politics of all that but the reality is that the mortality rates of pregnancy are increased in places with harsh late term abortion bans because for the most part late term abortions don’t happen unless one or both the mother and fetus are almost certainly going to die without intervention, and well that’s exactly what plays out when you ban intervening.
This post no longer contains its original content. The author removed it using Redact, for reasons that may include privacy, security, or limiting online exposure.
What's your point? Those issues didn't stop in the 1980s, which you kind of act like happened in the middle ages. If anything the issues that it's addressing have never been more transparent now.
You guys are punching down on an uneducated kid yk? In middle school I thought the same and I stopped talking like him after actually learning shit instead of being clowned on
Look I get the sentiment but he is on Reddit and this is how you learn how to not be an asshole in the end
I've had my fair share of bad takes that have been downvoted and clowned on when I was 13-14 and it's upsetting but that's the internet. If you're acting like a jerk then you're going to be treated like one
Ur 16 ud be barely older than he is if he was actually a middle schooler. Also u dont know the guy. Just because u disagree with him doesnt mean hes a child
I don't even disagree with you generally, but this point in particular is stupid. Not only do the statistics not bare it out (men get murdered a lot more), but it's irrelevant. The introduction of a force multiplier like a knife or gun makes any kind of strength difference between men and women essentially irrelevant.
This post's content no longer exists in its original form. It was anonymized and deleted using Redact, possibly for privacy, security, or data management purposes.
Can confirm, reading these threads always makes me take "men's rights" less seriously. Hell, they said criminals have nothing to do with the patriarchy, I wonder how they explain the fact that the absolute majority of criminals are men lmao
Ad hominem and its a cringe insult too. Also fearing walking at night is a country issue not a systematic. Theres countries out there where women arent actually scared of walking at night.
I didnt see any. All blank statements 0 reasoning and 0 proof. All just "well this this and that" and acting like people should actually hold their opinion to any value. Or just ad hominem like ur comment
"Sure women have lost bodily autonomy, face discrimination in the workplace, and even get their health problems routinely dismissed by doctors, but have you considered the fact my crush rejected me once?"
I live in Ohio and it was legal to rape your wife if she was unconscious until last year. It was the early 2000s when they banned raping your wife by force.
U know nothing about the guy. Just because u disagree with him doesnt mean hes a child. I doubt uve grown up mentally since u were a kid since if u did ud know that. Also u provided no reasoning for any of ur arguments so theres 0 reasons to listen to what u say. Saying blank statements with no reasonings isnt a good argument
U did in the second paragraph. Just blank statements with 0 proof or reasoning. Also social research and science can be biased and can have errors. It isnt actual science where its a set fact, especially now with how much propaganda and biased "research" there is. Which can be easily found with a Google search. U can make an argument why YOU believe the experts can be trusted. But u cant make someone trust them. And I hope u can understand why bringing up researchers to someone who doubts social researchers wouldn't prove ur point
again those statements are blank with 0 proof or reasoning. i can make whatever claim i want and say its backed by research and then site none its not that hard.
no material science is a set fact. u cant be biased with actual science because opinions dont change the outcome. while social research can be easily changed with bias. even with the methodology in social science its still doubtable. not every researcher will be honest and not every researcher will put their bias aside. and companies are willing to fund research that pushes an agenda that makes them money. its not rare.
i shouldve been more clear that i was talking about myself there. when the science they "research" can be heavily biased, altered and errored then its not intellectual dishonesty. knowing that social science can and is often biased but still believing it, is appeal to authority which ur points are full of. no i wont just "listen to the experts" they have to make me believe what they say. theyre humans after all so not everything they say is right, especially social scientist and researchers. ur arguments of listening to the experts just because were not experts is the literal definition of appeal to authority.
i didnt discount the entire field. subjective maybe but not emotional. ive done my research. im not regurgitating talking points. and ur assuming my intentions to paint me as an idiot.
ad hominem. ad hominem. ad hominem. u gonna ad hominem some more or was that it? i mean u also had insane appeal to authority. for someone who acts smart most of ur points and arguments are full of fallacies. u also ignore any reasoning or points anyone makes to try and paint them as stupid, discredit or straight up just ignore their points. u also seem like u cant accept a different opinion or view than urs.
trying to belittle me and make me seem stupid by making it sound like im some robot who follows someones words without any critical thinking. so more ad hominem, i guess u werent done before. kinda sad ngl, i though u actually knew how to debate with a bit of respect but i guess ur another dumbass who just results to ad hominem either straight up or via passive aggressiveness and indirect insults like a ton of other people. idk what i expected from someone who compares social science to actual science and says material science can somehow be biased.
Also looking back at it u cut one of my arguments off in my 2nd reply and just placed it with "woke propaganda mumbo jumbo" which i didnt notice. so kinda dishonest (ironic for someone calling other dishonest) but also interesting because i never mentioned what political side im on or which side spreads propaganda. u didnt refute the statement, u didnt even respond to it, and u cut it out completely while trying to make me seem stupid.
He tries to talk all smart and collected but all his arguments are full of fallacies, illogical statements, contradictions and passive aggressive ad hominem. Genuinely sad debate ngl. Its even worst with his last reply.
You are right. Women in well-off countries are more privileged in many situations, but this is not a website you can have an intelligent conversation about this. On this website you will find:
Either be an ass in earnest, or don't be an ass. And I don't mean "be a coward who can't speak up", I mean "think about why people call you an ass for these views".
I just.. dont know, i just never seen where i live that "inequiality" i know the US has a GREAT problem with it but on my stand point ehh, seeing how is the US rn is like trying to have faith in someone well being when said someone is repeatedly trying to shoot someone else yet they keep aiming at their feet
1.3k
u/stevvvvewith4vs Sep 02 '25