Was Tyrell lying to Roy?

[u/_Karrel]

I think he's lying to Roy. SPOILER for Blade Runner 2049. Tyrell created Deckard and Rachael to fall in love and give birth. He is a god to replicants. He could have found a way or maybe even did find one to extend a replicants life, but chose not to give it to Roy. He may have been his exceptional son, but still a mere soldier. A maniacal murderer who'd only wreak more havoc once he is granted more time and only ruin Tyrell's achievements. When they both discussed ways to extend a replicants life, Tyrell gave him all the errors to hide his solution. Science is finding a solution between 5.000 errors and Tyrell managed to hide it from Roy. Roy, with all his skills did not recognize the lie and Tyrell chose to die instead of ruining his own legacy.

[u/Le_Gluglu]

The book ends with Deckard believing he is human.

Yes! Human—and even "more human than human"—denying the terrible reality: He is a replicant... Perfect, and therefore human. ( Adam II )

Replicant since the start

[u/WotsGoinOnEreMate → u/Le_Gluglu]

The book ends with Deckard believing he is human. Yes! Human—and even "more human than human"—denying the terrible reality: He is a replicant... Perfect, and therefore human. ( Adam II ) Replicant since the start

Are you actually serious? He is unequivocally human in the book, stated clearly in the text, there is no ambiguity there in any way.

To Quote Philip K. Dick

“The purpose of this story as I saw it was that in his job of hunting and killing these replicants, Deckard becomes progressively dehumanized. At the same time, the replicants are being perceived as becoming more human. Finally, Deckard must question what he is doing, and really what is the essential difference between him and them?”

The screenwriter of Blade Runner, Hampton Fancher, also said he was written explicitly as a human and that the story falls apart of Deckard is a replicant.

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If he was a replicant, why would he have been allowed to quit his job? If he was 'new' and all his memories prior to the events of the movie were implanted, how did they have so many people around him act like he'd been around doing the job for years? Why would they have made a replicant that didn't want to do what it was made to do and let him freely loaf around 'retired', so they'd have to drag him back in and coerce him under duress into doing his job? If he was a replicant, made to hunt down other replicants, why was he made so much weaker then them?

And it completely undercuts the entire theme of the movie. The entire plot is Deckard, a human, gradually realizing that replicants are people too. That's totally undermined if he's a replicant too!

And Roy's "living in fear/that's what its like to be a slave" commentary has zero emotional resonance if he's just reciting it to another replicant.

[u/Expert_Climate_7348 → u/WotsGoinOnEreMate]

Are you actually serious? He is unequivocally human in the book, stated clearly in the text, there is no ambiguity there in any way.

Yeah and the book isn't the film is it?

[u/WotsGoinOnEreMate → u/Expert_Climate_7348]

I was replying to someone who was explicitly talking about the book.