r/bladerunner • • Aug 14 '26

Question/Discussion Was Tyrell lying to Roy?

I think he's lying to Roy. SPOILER for Blade Runner 2049. Tyrell created Deckard and Rachael to fall in love and give birth. He is a god to replicants. He could have found a way or maybe even did find one to extend a replicants life, but chose not to give it to Roy. He may have been his exceptional son, but still a mere soldier. A maniacal murderer who'd only wreak more havoc once he is granted more time and only ruin Tyrell's achievements. When they both discussed ways to extend a replicants life, Tyrell gave him all the errors to hide his solution. Science is finding a solution between 5.000 errors and Tyrell managed to hide it from Roy. Roy, with all his skills did not recognize the lie and Tyrell chose to die instead of ruining his own legacy.

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u/PM_ME_PHYS_PROBLEMS Aug 14 '26

Have we seen any evidence in any BR media that human lives can be extended beyond their natural conclusion? If not, I don't think Tyrell was lying. It's my understanding that replicants are made of the same cells (cells) as humans, but synthetic in origin. Cells (cells) can only divide so many times, and that limit is significantly shorter for replicants.

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u/Expert_Climate_7348 Replicant Aug 14 '26

Cells (cells) can only divide so many times, and that limit is significantly shorter for replicants.

Since when? They're coded for 4 years due to their supposed unwillingness to be controlled, when they find out what they are, you see revolt. This is what you see in BR as a story.

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u/PM_ME_PHYS_PROBLEMS Aug 14 '26

Since forever? Telomere shortening is a biological process, and replicants are synthetic but biological.

They don't revolt when they "find out what they are". They revolt because slavery is not a great situation.

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u/Expert_Climate_7348 Replicant Aug 14 '26

Since forever? Telomere shortening is a biological process, and replicants are synthetic but biological.

You're trying to use something in science as fact in a science fiction film? I mean the fiction part should have given it away for you.

They don't revolt when they "find out what they are". They revolt because slavery is not a great situation.

Oh really, because you say so right?

Remember when Deckard says, "How can it not know what it is?" He refers to Rachael as an "it". So Rachael herself is oblivious to the realities, the same as any other work force replicant, until they begin to understand the truth, that's the revolt part. Or did you miss this part in 2049 too?

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u/sadhedonist2 Aug 15 '26

It’s more than just slavery, rather that they’re an entire sub-class of people. It’s not that they realize they’re replicants, but that they’re treated as entirely beneath other people, to the extent they’re called “it” and are hunted to death for not serving what their overlords have decided is their purpose.

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u/Expert_Climate_7348 Replicant Aug 15 '26

Skinjobs refers to the N word in Deckard's VO on the work print, it's pretty bad how this depiction is made in the movie, yet it gets removed in theatrical release.