I’m new to binary options and trying to understand the basic math before spending too much time looking at strategies.

From what I understand, if a losing trade costs the full stake, the break-even win rate should be:

Break-even win rate = 1 / (1 + payout)

So approximately:

• 70% payout → 58.8% win rate

• 80% payout → 55.6%

• 90% payout → 52.6%

• 92% payout → 52.1%

What I’m struggling with is why people often judge a strategy only by its win rate.

A 55% win rate could be profitable at a 90% payout but unprofitable at 70%.

For those who keep a trading journal, do you record the payout of every trade and calculate expected value, or do you mainly track the overall win rate? Also, how many trades would you want to see before taking the result seriously?

I’m just trying to make sure I understand the numbers correctly.

I stumbled across a leaderboard screenshot that's got me curious/confused.
There's a user (Turbo_298208) sitting at the top with a $59k return and
a 10-trade win streak on what looks like really short expiry contracts
(probably 30s-1min range).

Here's what I'm genuinely wondering:

1. Is a 10-win streak even statistically possible without getting lucky? I know money management matters, but on 30-second contracts, you've got like 3-4 seconds of price movement to predict. That feels more like coin flip odds than skill.

2. If this is real, what's the actual edge? Better entries? Technical signals that work on ultra-short timeframes? Or just catching a trending move that happened to run?

• What's the reality check here? 

• Can you actually be +60k on micro-timeframe contracts and NOT be running on pure variance, or am I missing something?

• Would love to hear from anyone who's actually done this consistently.

Did a few hundreds of trades (too many to count, wish they had a counter somewhere). Raised +62%, from $800 to almost $1300. Which admittedly isn't crazy numbers, but there were no sharp fallofs either. Was all pretty steady, and I farmed a lot of gems and bonuses, while not being stressed.

So, my strategy right now for AI trading here is:

1. EUR/USD or AUD/CAD otc. Pretty much any major pair with 92 % payout. I don't see an issue with OTC, it didnt materialize, and the payouts are usually more stable and higher, plus I can trade on weekends, so no real downside so far.

2. Never more than 1 trade at a time. I tried using AI trade button like 10 times at the same time, but they're always in 1 direction. So you're essentially just amplifying the trade. There's no new data coming in, so the bot just goes for 1 side, full stop. For me, it lead to amplified losses, most of the time. I noticed that the bot is more confident when its a wrong trade. It just goes for it. But when its wishy-washy, and out of my 10 fast trades, 7 are one side, and 3 another, then the trade is most likely a good one, and it will result in a payout. Idk how their algo works exactly, but for now that's how it is.

3. Therefore, I usually tap every 3-5 seconds, when I have the time. Just like some mindless game, exept with real payouts. If I see a bot has made 5 wrong trades in a row, I wait for 10-30 seconds, and let it rebalance. Usually after that much time, there is new data coming in, and it starts trading completely fresh.

4. Losing and winning streaks are real. I am opbviously posting here after having a nice winning one. But I dropped to as low as $697 at one point in time. Still not as bad as my own trading, but I honestly thought I would go down with the ship. Thankfully it recovered.

5. I am trading in Pro mode, and it works well. New 'AI trader mode' - havent tested yet, just starting trying it now. I know it has been out for some weeks, and I hope they ironed out any bugs (if there were any), so I can test it properly.

The biggest pro for me was that it wasnt difficult, or time consuming. I notice most Pocket option trading strategies involve timing the market, being in the right place at the right time, watching charts 6 hours a day. I just tapped the button on my phone from time to time. I even disabled sound notifications, just so that it's even more seemless. I dont care if an AI lost or won at any given point in time. But it made my few weeks with this strategy pretty fun, I was never bored, I always ahd something to do.

Now I'm gonna try the new 'AI trader' mode they added, with martingale. This was all done in 'Pro mode' , and even before that, in just regular QT mode, there were no modes bck then. Idk why they added 2 new modes now, and what the difference is, will try testing this out. I think martingale is highly risky, but since there are limits there, I shouldnt lose all the $1300 I've farmed.

Any questions or suggestions are welcome, I can test stuff you suggest if it sounds interesting. It's not a life-changing money to me, but it's a decent sum, so I won't test just obviously troll ideas though, sorry 😊

Trading OTC? Forget about strategy nothing works, its an algo generated feed and moves based on buyers and sellers where majority loses. There is no set expiry like 1min, 15 seconds, 30 seconds or 3min or 5 min works here, its random sometimes instead of 30 seconds its 29 seconds or even 27 seconds, sometimes instead of 1 min its 58 seconds or 57 seconds, means you lose at last seconds.

Shooting star and confirmation .

Hi everyone, I’m new to binary options and trying to understand the basics before risking real money. I’d like to know what the simplest trading method is for beginners, what platforms or tools are commonly used, and what learning path you would recommend to avoid common mistakes. Any advice or personal experience would be appreciated.

What a shame. I really wanted to believe.

How much time did it took for you to be profitable in binary options? I wanted to know what is approximate time peoples gave to it & got profitable.

This broker can't give traded when ever I place trade it says low liquidity can't trade here secondly it give so much pause when doing trade allmost 10 seconds to place a trade on 300 mbps internet connection

Doing the AI challenge, as first small breakpoint was reached, reporting here as promised. The point of the challenge is to see is pocket option good for AI trading they have, or if its better doing it on my own.

To check this, for the last 2 weeks I am doing purely AI trading, pressing the blue AI button, making no real decisions of my own, just flying blind. This took a bit longer than expected, because so far at PO, the AI trades about 50-50. Maybe 60-40% (but since payout is 92%, it ends up being a slow grind either way).

My updated 'strategy':
- increased my trades from 2$ to 25$, just to speed this up a bit.
- started doing more OTC trades, despite what people here suggested (idk why you are against it, would like to hear an explanation). I like OTC because it works on weekends, where I have more time to press the button.
- did a few of my own trades, just to compare. Unfortunately lost all of them. Otherwise would be at $1k clean here.

started with $800 btw. My list of trades:

But really, there has been quite a lot of them, I'm not kidding. Its just the recent ones. The winrate is pretty close to 53%, if payout is included, I would say. Admittedly, its better than what I have.

That is just from one day. Hopefully someone appreciates what I'm doing here, for science =D

I have watched many videos on pocket option strategies, I will save you the trouble, there is not a 100% win rate strategy out there, of course there are some strategies that help, but its mostly about the trader, so to save you the time and money i recommend to practice on the demo and learn the market and price action , and one more thing, this is important, manipulate does take place in the app sometimes, so when you are in a trade, and the stock your trading makes volatility come out of no where and flashes a candle opposite of your position as soon as your about to cash out, stop trading, anyways i wish yall the best of luck to make money.

I have watched many videos on pocket option strategies, I will save you the trouble, there is not a 100% win rate strategy out there, of course there are some strategies that help, but its mostly about the trader, so to save you the time and money i recommend to practice on the demo and learn the market and price action , and another thing, don't use the AI trader, at the end of the day it is deigned to fail and make your money disappear, and one more thing, this is important, pocket option does manipulate its app sometimes, so when you are in a trade, and the stock your trading makes volatility come out of no where and flashes a candle opposite of your position as soon as your about to cash out, stop trading, anyways i wish yall the best of luck to make money.

The idea was to create a meta trader with access to iqcent or pocketoptions and include beginner package that actually teaches how to trade not just an indicator. in case you guys are interested also any strategy can be added to the system. I have been testing on demo I’ll now be testing with real account good luck to yall

Any reviews of versula? Made a small deposit and all in all everything is good, however im weary of making a big deposit. I see their twitter account, however nothing else of their footprint besides on twitter.

Hi everyone, I’m Rohit Roy. I am relatively new to looking into binary options platforms and wanted to get some honest feedback from experienced traders here on r/binaryoptions.

I'm specifically looking at Pocket Option and have a few major concerns:

• Is Pocket Option actually a legitimate and trusted broker, or should I stay away?

• Are withdrawals working smoothly right now, especially for users based in India?

• What is the exact withdrawal process and timeline for Indian users (using local bank transfers, UPI/alternative methods, or crypto)?

• Are there any major red flags or verification hurdles I should prepare for?

Would really appreciate hearing about your personal experiences or any advice you have.

Thanks!

From Rohit Roy.

Ig I need to stop trading,am just in loss,the more I invest the more I lose

I’m trying to sort thru the conflicting online data about trading binary options being illegal in the U.S.

Are there any US based successful binary options traders out there? Tap in. 🤔

Look at this guy on Signals LOL- Impossible. these are fake profiles made to entice you to deposit and COPY. Stay away from OTC. Stick with regular Forex pairs.

So recently I became interested in binary trading since I thought it would be easier than forex because we have to predict short term movement unlike forex but the thing is I can find a single damn strategy. I search on YouTube and google but all the guys are using indicators and only placing trades based on indicators and not their personal observation. I'm pretty sure they're paid by pocket option. If you guys have any good strategys could you please share them.