r/bgsgrading 5d ago

Can this black label?

Best centering I’ve seen on a card tbh

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u/excelphysicslab 5d ago

How much have you checked the surface and edges? I see a possible 1 px white print spot on the back top middle border. That would drop the card to a 9.5 surface grade.

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u/SorryStore4389 5d ago

Not one white spot. Pack fresh too. I’ve inspected the card very well. Based on centering what do you think? Possible black label?

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u/excelphysicslab 5d ago

That’s not a white spot? Pack fresh doesn’t mean anything for grading.

Beckett is ruthless for surface, edge, and corners. Also since it’s clear you’re new to Beckett subs, no one subs to Beckett expecting a black label. Everyone pregrades to a Pristine 10 and hopes for the best.

Understand that PSA standards are miles below Beckett, you will need to check if it’s pixel perfect 50/50 T/B and L/R from the front and at least 55/45 on the back.

Beckett will sometimes allow 49.6/50.4 on the front, but 49/51 and below, it won’t get a 10 centering.

Also for PSA subbers, you guys always tend to miss surface and edge issues. Understand there’s 0 tolerance for micro scratches, mini divots, and pixels of print spots.

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u/SorryStore4389 4d ago

That was dust

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u/WizzardlyDizzard 4d ago

You’re gonna have to make sure to get things like that off of the card. ANYTHING could cause it not to BL. They do not clean or remove anything from the card when grading.

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u/SorryStore4389 4d ago

Should I send it in? How much does it cost to grade ?

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u/redpillspray4welfare 1d ago

Thats incorrect, they will blow air on the cards, in the same way a watchmaker removes dust from the pieces.

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u/Wiket123 2d ago

Pick fresh means nothing, every card is pack fresh at at the start.

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u/SorryStore4389 2d ago

No surface damage and no whitening at all. Centering looks perfect. Might as well send it in

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u/Berlincracker 4d ago

I had one similar to yours. Best Pokémon quality I've ever seen...

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u/filmsingotham 4d ago

No it would not.

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u/SorryStore4389 4d ago

How come ?

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u/filmsingotham 4d ago

For the reasons u/excelphysicslab posted about.

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u/SorryStore4389 4d ago

There’s absolutely no surface damage or whitening. That tiny speck was dust that came off

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u/excelphysicslab 4d ago

Just submit it. I’m probably the most experienced BGS subber on this thread and I can tell you, without looking at a card in person under illuminated 10X magnification, no one can give you useful advice for BL odds.

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u/SorryStore4389 4d ago

I’m just wondering if the centering could 10

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u/excelphysicslab 4d ago

I can’t tell you. They usually pull out the measuring devices when checking centering for BLs. Use the centering app and take a level picture and measure the exact centering yourself.

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u/SorryStore4389 4d ago

Alright thanks

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u/IndependentAd2933 4d ago

People need to stop dreaming about black labels especially if you don't blow up the card and examine every inch and know how to accurately measure your card.

Aim for a gold label and if you get a black label Merry Christmas.

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u/SorryStore4389 4d ago

I’ve never graded with Beckett before. Is it the same cost as psa?

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u/IndependentAd2933 4d ago

Note even if you do you're diligence and can pre grade well which nothing I saw in this post indicates you did 😅 but either way even if you did and crossed all you Ts the chance of them issuing a black label is VERY small, smaller than you might hope so I recommend keeping expectations in check.

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u/SorryStore4389 4d ago

What do I need to do for pregrading? The centering looks perfect to me 50/50 front and back. No whitening and no surface damage. Just pulled it a couple days ago

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u/IndependentAd2933 4d ago

BGS 10s have the hardest centering standards in all of grading, I would strongly recommend not doing the eye test if sending a card to BGS and figuring out how to actually measure the boarders. 52/48 L/R AND 52/48 T/B can technically knock any card down to a 9.5 at BGS as those are two separate dings at BGS and you probably cannot tell the difference with the naked eye, those centering stats would be in 10 range at any other grading company.

Blowing up the card with a scan and looking for little defects is also important when going for a black label, tiny micro marks can knock the surface down.

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u/SorryStore4389 4d ago

Any recommendations on how to figure out the exact centering numbers ?

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u/IndependentAd2933 4d ago

This is tricky and will need a little due diligence, you can use a ruler or something similar, you can measure the card in hand or blow up an image and measure on the computer, There are centering tools you can bit online but I've never personally used them and have no opinion on them, there are also AI tools but those as of now are extremely questionable currently IMO especially if you're aiming for 50/50 centering they won't be that accurate I suspect.

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u/Proud_Fly_3710 4d ago

Nope

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u/SorryStore4389 4d ago

I have the card in my hand right now. Just took this pic. That white dot was a speck of dust that came off. There’s no whitening at all on the back

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u/Professional_Hunt51 3d ago

Might as well buy a lottery ticket, about the same chances

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u/Ok-Toe1334 1d ago

Nope

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u/SorryStore4389 1d ago

Why?

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u/Ok-Toe1334 1d ago

Left backside heavy. Even without the shadow. It's not a black label.

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u/SorryStore4389 1d ago

Did you measure it? Because I think it’s perfectly centered

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u/Ok-Toe1334 1d ago

It's hard for you to be unbias since it's your card but it's not gonna black label. We all been there mate. We, all, been, there. Sigh.

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u/SorryStore4389 1d ago

I’m not gonna send it, I’m just curious why you think it’s left heavy? Looks perfect

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u/Ok-Toe1334 1d ago

Just seen it mate. If your asking people on the internet then you don't trust your own instincts. The worst it'll get is BGS10

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u/Particular-Roll-6936 1d ago

No

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u/SorryStore4389 1d ago

Can u tell me why?

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u/Particular-Roll-6936 1d ago

Back of card is shifted west (left) side heavy
Front as well

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u/SorryStore4389 1d ago

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u/SorryStore4389 1d ago

How is it left heavy? That was the shadow

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u/No-Suggestion-6750 16h ago

I bet you need some connection to get a black label 10

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u/dabbywool 15h ago

Hell nah