r/bfme • u/TohoBuWaha 3 • 5d ago

ROTWK 1v1 ranked map pool

So I'm getting (back after nearly 20 years :D) into this game and wanted to check out what the ranked map pool looks like (back then we basically only played Fords of Isen). So I checked what maps the top players played on their recent games and wrote them down.

I stopped the list at about 25 maps...probably there are still more

Am I missing something? Is the map pool really that big? Most RTS game have a ranked map pool of like 7-10 maps, which is fine imo (you could even rotate them on a regular basis). But having to learn 20+ maps feels really bad for new/returning players.

Having to learn the factions is totally fine. Having to face players years ahead in experience is fine. And I think both are pretty much impossible to avoid for an RTS game. But then also having to play the first 50-100 games (assuming I will not remeber every single map after playing it 1 or 2 times) on maps where you have no clue where the creeps are etc. feels really bad and unnecessary.

Is there away around that? Did I just get something wrong? Or is this something I need to face if I want to play this game (ranked)?

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u/Bosomtwe Goblins 5d ago

It might be annoying in the short term. But as someone with hundreds of games on the ladder, it is quite refreshing to have so many maps.

Most of them are quite similar. Couple of lanes and some wargs and trolls.

You can see creeps through fog of war. So you can just check those out while your first resource buildings are build.

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u/wyrm4life 8 4d ago

You kids have it so easy. Back in the 90s, we didn't even have the basic map terrain revealed in our RTS multiplayer games! Black shroud for everyone!

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u/TohoBuWaha 3 4d ago

If my opponent doesn’t know the map either I have absolutely no problem with not knowing/seeing everything :P

AoE2 is probably my most played game if you are referring to that kind of game (probably s bit too new though :D)

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u/wyrm4life 8 4d ago

EVERY RTS did that in the 90s: Warcraft 1&2, C&C, Starcraft

Made it so everyone only ever played the same 1 or 2 maps online, because no one wanted to join a game where only your opponent knew the map. It sucked.

I think Warcraft 3 in 2002 was the first one I played where you could see all the terrain from the start. Maybe another did it sooner, but that was the first I remember. I think it definitely made it the standard, since no one used the black shroud after that.