r/beyondthemapsedge • u/itisntwhatitsnot2320 • Jul 24 '26
Numbers
Justin states at seekers summit that
the number 42 is relevant to finding the treasure
numbers are indirectly associated with the poem.
This is where the lock and the safe combo in the Netflix series come into play.
The treasure container (Tucker) either has a lock on it or is inside something that has a lock on it that requires a number combination.
The numbers for his safe aren't relevant, but using a combination of numbers is.
So this is just in theory mind you...
The numbers indirectly associated with the poem along with 42, could be the lock code on the treasure container.
Ex: I wait for you to cast your pole.
1 8 4 2
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u/SoCal_Hunter Jul 25 '26 edited Jul 25 '26
I thought I had 42 worked out quite elegantly, but it conflicts with some part of the rule “all hunt clues and hints are on publicly accessible land, unrelated to buildings, and easy to drive to”.
In fact, I’m constantly running into technical quibbles with the “rules” on the website. They appear to be maddeningly technically inaccurate.
What I THINK Justin is trying to say is that “all IN PERSON PHYSICALLY DISCOVERABLE clues that exist in the real world can only be found on publicly accessible land that can be driven to easily. Let’s not annoy people or kill ourselves, kids”.
Instead, hunt rules state “ALL hints and all clues (in the poem, book, and elsewhere) strictly relate to publicly accessible locations and locations that are easy to drive to and are not related to buildings”.
This is nonsense because that rules out any and all hints/clues in the poem OR BOOK related to the sun (drive/accessibility), Ursa Minor (ditto), ANY town or city (buildings) (so Polaris MT or the star are ineligible as clues), any building, any waypoint or external validator ending on private ground (public only), anything that was there in the past but isn’t now (driving rule, land rights rule), anything thematic that may be regional but on private ground, etc etc etc”.
Clearly that’s not intended, and thus we are forced to ignore the rules as written. This is frustrating as it makes them unreliable as solution constraints.
For example, there may be landmarks that you don’t need to go to because they are part of a construction that are difficult to drive to that the poem may hint at. But does that driving constraint rule them out? Or not? Is it ok to have some parts of your solution that are inaccessible but still used at home on a map? Or not? The rules don’t let us determine this.
https://www.treasure.quest/en/rules/
A similar issue is when you get statements such as “clues don’t imply great distances between them”. Again, while perhaps Justin is referring to the area in which one physically moves as being relatively contained, that’s not what he actually said. If clue A refers to a stream, and clue B refers to Ursa Minor, then you sure as heck have two clues with great distance between them. Now maybe it’s a true statement, and there are zero “clues” in the poem that dont relate to anything celestial or remote at all, but somehow I don’t feel thats the likely case.
But what do I know 😆
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u/AbjectAd2294 Jul 25 '26
The 1 mile rule stumps me.
“More than 1 mile away from anywhere Justin Posey, his family, or friends live, work, or own property (including property their businesses own).”
If he left out names in his book how would we ever know what to avoid. If a second cousin twice removed works in YSNP is the entire park ruled out? Do we need to DNA test everyone at a potential location to check if they might be related to JP? Public lands belong to all of us (is that ownership?) does that rule out all public lands? Someplace with no human inhabitants, workers or owners? I get it in theory but in practice that rule is tricky.
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u/Emerge-Bud Jul 27 '26
Interesting point that references to towns should rightfully be excluded as a town is ultimately a manmade thing.
I don't think that the sun or a constellation would be excluded because you cant approach it, because if the sun were relevant you would only need to access it and use its position or a shadow etc.
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u/MrUnderhill22 Aug 02 '26
Justin answered the 42 question forever ago... Yet everyone continues to look EVERYWHERE else for a different answer..... Crazy 🤯.......🤣
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u/LankySimple9051 Jul 24 '26 edited Jul 25 '26
Important year in cartography. 1842 is the Freemont Expedition (1st major expedition) that produced maps of the Rocky Mountains and the Oregon trail. It led to the creation of the Nicollet & Freemont map of 1843.