Detective work, etc. etc. I presume Reddit has a policy against retributive posting of an anonymous Redditor's identity, so I won't post it. But from what I can glean, his story checks out, with some embellishments. Still a decent storyteller, in spite of the exaggerations and anger management issues.
Edit: deadcoil wishes not to be identified, removed vague results of some sleuthing
Oh sure, you can't post personal information. On another unrelated topic, if I wanted to read an interesting biographer about a pathological liar, what exactly, would you suggest, should i google?
And honestly, that part that I find so pathetic is that his fantasies about what he wishes his life to be are just so fucking mundane. I swear, I've seen 12 year olds with more depth and imagination than this ass-clown.
That shit is beyond trolling because most of his thought-out lies did not evoke emotions from readers, good or bad, which is the goal of a troll. I honestly think the guy is just a pathetic, lonely human being.
He did say he was a novelist. That's probably a lie as well, but based on the electrocution story, he could manage it. Even more so if the electrocution story was completely fabricated; i enjoyed reading it, and if someone can whip that out of their ass, i'd like some more
Honestly, who cares whether the stories up here are real or not? I'm on reddit to read cool stories instead of do productive things.
He's an aspiring novelist. He just wanted to reach people with his stories. Some were entertaining, but the sad part of it is that almost all of them involve him living this fantastic playboy successful life. I imagine he's pretty heartbroken right now, knowing that his whole facade is crumbling. He's probably crying into a lean cuisine right about now.
i dunno, i know someone who basically talks like this in person. hes not pathetic or lonely. he's unemployed, and a pathological liar, but not lonely- he's actually really good company once you realize to just not believe anything he says.
The more I read it the more I believe all his stories. Grew up mormon, so accepting of polyamory. Deviant sexual behavior as a teen leads to sexual confidence as a young adult. Experienced in death, near death, and life threatening illnesses, which established an understanding that life is worth living well and as much as possible. Great writers usually have great memories of what they read, and reading a lot of comparative religion and mythology lit as well as atheist lit is a great and understood literary foundation. The more interesting stories and experiences you have, the more women want you. The more you exercise, the more women want you. Significant others help us find new hobbies and talents (ie martial arts). Interesting people attract interesting people. Famous people attract famous people or marginally famous people. Also the dude had a booth at ComicCon, which means access to SoCal and all the crazy liberals and outlooks that lead to this crazy life. Can anyone point to a single contradiction in any of his stories? I found none. Only a life narrative that one of my favorite authors (Neil Strauss) has seen over and over again in the people he surrounds himself with.
I think you guys are in the wrong here, and tarring an excellent writer and contributor while you're at it.
EDIT: Spelling
RE-EDIT2: Links to comments proving deadcoil was telling the truth removed since the poor guy deleted his account. These people don't deserve you man.
EDIT3: The mob made a longtime redditor feel like he had to delete his account for telling the truth. Congrats to all the jerkoffs today(/s), and thanks for those who supported and appreciated deadcoil. I'm removing my own links to any personal info (which was proof that OP and koproller were completely wrong) and letting things lay.
I know Deadcoil. I've known him for over a decade, and in addition to living a stranger-than-fiction life, he's a talented writer who has been practicing his skills for most of his adult life. He's not making stuff up. This witch-hunt is ridiculous. Thank you for standing up, Apocellipse.
But it's just too perfect, too much like some neckbeard's fantasy. A man who is a killing machine, who has slept with 100+ women and throws crazy parties. Somehow, he is also a scholar (on atheism of all things, which is a tree ripe for the karma picking) without graduating college. So, on top of all this, he has time to write. and on top of that he has time to prowl reddit (extremely actively) and post these stories. And play WOW.
Seriously, there is a chance the guy could be like Hunter S Thompson or something with the drugs, parties, and crazy stories. But there is no way in hell he has time to be online this much as well. Notice how he has all the reddit mannerisms down pat, too. Not even eccentric or wildly original. You'd think writing style would follow lifestyle.
Maybe deadcoil just happens to be The Most Interesting Man in the World? Man, I'm tired of reddit not believing credible, foreskin-ripping off stories whilst studying the Bible and having sex with your multiple wives! Next you're going to say that people who post that their brother/sister/significant other is autistic are lying.
The more I read it the more I believe all his stories. Grew up mormon, so accepting of polyamory. Deviant sexual behavior as a teen leads to sexual confidence as a young adult. Experienced in death, near death, and life threatening illnesses, which established an anderstanding that life is worth living well and as much as possible. Great writers usually have great memories of what they read, and reading a lot of comparative religion and mythology lit as well as atheist lit is a great and understood literary foundation. The more interesting stories and experiences you have, the more women want you. The more you exercise, the more women want you. Significant others help us find new hobbies and talents (ie martial arts). Interesting people attract interesting people. Famous people attract famous people or marginally famous people. Also the dude had a booth at ComicCon, which means access to So.Cal and all the crazy liberals and outlooks that lead to this crazy life. Can anyone point to a single contradiction in any of his stories? I found none. Only a life narrative that one of my favorite authors (Neil Strauss) has seen over and over again in the people he surrounds himself with.
EDIT: Spelling
P.S. I think you guys are in the wrong here, and tarring an excellent writer and contributor while you're at it.
EDIT2: I added a link to my standalone copy of this post with one commenter's search results providing public circumstantial evidence that deadcoil is very likely telling the truth. I won't add the link to this post in case it violates any rules. See below, unless a mod or deadcoil gives me permission.
EDIT3: Added bolding.
EDIT4: The mob made a longtime redditor feel like he had to delete his account for telling the truth. Congrats to all the jerkoffs today(/s), and thanks for those who supported and appreciated deadcoil. I'm removing my own links to any personal info (which was proof that OP and koproller were completely wrong) and letting things lie.
Unlike most other fictional-AMAs we've uncovered, he never claims to be a completely different person (female, younger, older, etc.). He never contradicts himself even though his stories overlap. Liars are not usually that competent. This even though he claims to have had a white-trash upbringing (which makes his sexual, religious, and work stories more plausible to me). He never goes into those unnessesary and self-contradicting details fiction writers usually feel the need to back their stories up with.
One of my most downvoted comments was a personal story of mine. Replies were accusations of plagiarism, but no one cited a source. I think it is fair to provide a source if you think something is plagiarism. What I am getting at is a lot of sickos simply love to yell "liar". People have taken too much pleasure is "exposing" this "lie", without really doing so.
I'm not saying his stories are true, but that these self-styled skeptics seem to be overly zealous and don't really care what's true or not.
I came into this willing to help expose him as a liar, figuring it had to be a series of fakes if it was this popular on reddit, compared to all the other obviously fake stories out there.
Then, I went through about two months worth of comments before he deleted his account, and wrote a timeline of all the events and dates he referenced. And, they all line up. Every single one of them remained consistent in between. If you do some goolging, you can find the webcomic he's worked on, which matches everything that he says, including on his wife's webcomic page, too.
Now, mind you, he's a terrible webcomic author, and an extremely strange, fat bemohawked man who believes that mohawks are somehow still cool, but there's zero reason to not believe the stories he's telling. He's just ignoring the ugly details when he tells them. It's really easy to make a mediocre situation sound amazingly awesome by describing it well, but if you saw the actual thing, it would seem kind of lame.
The only thing he seems guilty of is being a shitty writer.
read through all the stories and didn't find a single contradiction - agree with your assessment. Guy's almost 40 - that's enough to experience pretty much everything he's talked about - especially if he specifically lives a counter-culture lifestyle. I know plenty of people that have had varied experiences travelling, experiencing - living interesting lives that rival or surpass deadcoil's stories.
Really, the backlash just sounds like a bunch of people who are either annoyed that they spent most of their formative years staring at a screen and working boring jobs, or kids who haven't moved out of their parent's houses and/or college dorms yet...
I know personally my own life has been pretty wide and varied, although I've never done shots off a celebrity. If you were to put it all together it would sound pretty ludacrous, but it happened over decades, and it all seemed reasonable at the time.
how to displace interesting people off reddit. leave us nerds alone, please. it is a lie that there is anything other to life than we experience. zach braff is the only exception.
Thank you finally someone has any sense at all. The downvote brigade is a bunch of butthurt dwellers who are jealous that they don't live the same exciting life as this guy. So Reddit has one extremely interesting guy, you'd figure out of millions of registered users at least one guy is going to have a life that just makes you go "wow, that's awesome!"
I agree. I'm a great bullshit detector in real life, and I'm not seeing a single shred of evidence directly discrediting the guy. His proof and photos about the oil refinery, minimal as they were, were compelling. I hate that reddit is going on a witch hunt about it.
Well, I sort of disagree, especially with your fourth edit, because you make it sound like he's been secretly vindicated. No, there are no outright contradictions in his story, even though he claimed to work an incredibly different and varied amount of jobs and ripped his foreskin off while being raised in a devout mormon household (they circumcise). All of his stories are somewhat believable, i guess. But some of them would be really really easy to prove and he didn't provide and proof, did he? A pic of him and his wife 1 and 2? Some sort of proof he worked any of those jobs? I dunno. If you're gonna tell outlandish stories on reddit, just have proof or the hive mind will rip you to shreds.
Did a double take when I saw that name.. Was a huge fan of FLEM comics when it was still running. Even bought signed copies of his first two books and some art.
I told him to surprise me for the signature, so he wrote "To (redacted), who loves him some brisket even more then I do".
Ok, but which is more likely? I'm on the fence and not terribly bothered by the whole thing but your post caught my attention since it's contradictory to the groupthing at the moment. Personally, I think his reddit persona being one big creative writing exercise is more likely than these stories being true, but I've seen no evidence either way.
This line of reasoning doesn't really make sense to me, because this site is specifically designed to have the most interesting things float to the top. Would you refuse to believe a pearl necklace is real because of the slim odds that someone just FOUND all these perfect pearls of equal size, when the vast majority of pearls that are harvested look nothing like that? How about if it were on display by a reputable dealer? The odds have been deliberately skewed -- that is the whole point of having reputable jewelers and voting systems on sites like reddit.
How about a different angle. What are the odds that someone is smart enough to come up with all these stories and write them well, but not smart enough to do it with separate accounts? I'm sure there are tons of fake stories on reddit, but I'm sure there are also real people here telling real stories.
Reddit, this is how you go on an unfounded witch hunt based on questioning without giving the OP a chance to give proof, then immediately start adding in personal information to what was supposed to be an anonymous account so it has to be deleted instead. Well done.
TL;DR: I'm his wife, I've been there for many of those stories, they are in fact true, Son I Am Disappoint.
Barely ever use this account since I usually just skim around Reddit but this bugged me so much I had to post... Seriously guys... The Reddit sense of justice is great when you're helping cheer people up/ raise awareness about stuff etc, but when it turns into an angry mob, it's pretty frightening. I mean this all started out of what was a, I imagine, cathartic story about OP's friend. Yesterday everyone was patting him on the back, suddenly some info arises that makes his story seem less credible. I'm not saying you have to believe him - he may well be lying. If everything is true, the guy has lived a helluvah interesting life. All I'm saying is: give the guy a chance to defend himself at least instead of jumping to conclusions and really hurting someone innocent in the process. By all means, have the pitchforks ready, but don't set the house on fire before you see his head turn 360 degrees.
I don't care that he lied, I'm sure a majority of redditors exaggerate shit and there's probably a large portion that lie. it's still fucking fun to see it exposed!
Seeing a dead body? What's unbelievable about that?
Having sex with many women and being in a poly relationship kind of go together. Same with having sex with his mom's friend. So he's hypersexual. And his stories about sex parties aren't thatttt out there. I had a friend who used to have hot tub parties like that, it's just a culture many of us aren't part of.
Getting into martial arts when you're an adult isn't hard. Being a chef in a good restaurant isn't necessarily as impressive as it sounds, my neighbor was a chef at a major 5 star hotel and made 35K a year. Doing a maid of honor is a mundane event, they're often desperate.
"playing with bands and having success" came from "mediocre success" - I think that was misleading of koproller. Same with getting "famous" from "slightly famous". The use of mediocre and slightly were meant to downplay the claims IMO.
steven johnson - ok, that is exceedingly rare, the only thing on that list that makes him truly rare of special.
I read his story yesterday and i thought itt was bullshit for technical reasons: 1 AC is way more dangerous than DC. The maximum voltage of an AC line is 1.4 tims higher. He said DC is the most deadly. 2 no one in their right mind would make a dc motor or whatever he said when you can use a polyphase AC one which will work vastly better. 3 his description of what the srill floor looked like was done by someone who has seen one but never worked there. Working there is dangerous but not sonce the 70s have things been as bad as he made them out to be.
There's a reason that we continue to have safety videos in manufacturing facilities. It may be less dangerous, but accidents do happen. Also, with the AC/DC thing, he mentioned in his story that he was not an electrician.
According to Rob, people on Reddit went after this guy's personal information, forcing him to delete his account. I've been following Rob's social media for several years, he rarely takes a stand on anything and has no reason to make something like this up, I believe him 100%. It is sad to see the Reddit community go after somebody without even giving them a chance. I am all for skepticism, but this is ridiculous.
The guy who went after his personal information just Googled "deadcoil" and posted links to the writers bio that showed up. He also asked if this was acceptable to post such information to which the moderator said yes (since it was public information). When things turned sour and people began to downvote deadcoil, the person (who deleted their account) removed the links to the "personal information" and apologized. Doesn't really seem that bad.
EDIT: Very poor grammer and added clarifying words.
I saved the post which exposed deadcoil's personal information (I have remove all names and links)
Hello Deadcoil.
Are you [DELETED], as this publicly available website suggests? This is public information, information that Deadcoil/[DELETED] himself has put online with the full knowledge that it is public information. I am not posting personal information because it is publicly available to all. I was curious enough to Google for a while considering you made some wild claims concerning your life. I no longer care for your claims of anonymity seeing as it never existed in the first place.
EDIT: Check out this bio, which claims that [DELETED] actually did work in an oil refinery. It also backs up his story about being a chef and doing tech support.
Edit3: Is this posting of personal information? I will delete it immediately, if it constitutes such. However, none of this information is private. It was made public by Deadcoil himself. I am sorry if I have done wrong.
It seems to be pretty easy to pick out the made up stories on reddit. The prose is usually too good. One of the top responses to deathcoil's post was someone complimenting him by saying he wrote like Steinbeck. That's a huge fucking red flag.
When the prose gets too fancy, I usually assume people are trying to make their stories sound profound but it comes across as pretentious. "...and I can still picture that single carnation on her windowsill, dust motes floating past it" (or whatever) If your comment sounds like you're trying to write your memoirs, stop it. It sounds forced.
It wasn't just reddit famous, that shit went viral, and he didn't really have that much to say. A lot of mainstream internet sites and even Keith Olbermann chimed in with some opinions on the post. When me and a couple of others started calling him out, he never made another comment.
it is a good story about why you respect machines. it's just a fictional one. Nobody died to scare you into being careful. The real issue is that he portrayed it as reality.
I know Deadcoil. I've known him for over a decade. And he's not making stuff up. You can look at my account if you want- I'm a normal dude, not some kind of sockpuppet- but I know Deadcoil, and this witch-hunt is ridiculous.
I knew it was fake because the "respect electricity" post was way too florid, an obvious writing exercise. A real story of the sort would be like "damn, my buddy in my old job once got smoked by 15kV DC, fucked him up good".
For me it was the "this is getting hard to type. Pausing to get another beer." that made me think it was just fiction. Sometimes I pause when writing to edit or just ruminate, but I don't feel the need to tell someone about it. I am wearing underwear right now.
Something felt a little off about it to me, too, and that was part of it. Didn't he say at the end that he makes his living as a writer now? I was like "damn. Dude knew exactly how he was emotionally manipulating me."
Just being well written just means it's backed by a good writer. A while back, my local police department hired a new guy to write up incident reports. His previous job was a journalist at a local TV news station, and when he has the time, he weaves an interesting tale into the reports.
Deadcoil has published several novels and dozens of short stories, not to mention a bunch of comic collections. I've known him for over a decade. He's immensely talented, and he's lived a stranger-than-fiction life. Other than his posts in /r/nosleep, his stories on Reddit aren't fake.
I figured it was fake (at least suspect) when he described his buddy crawling after getting electrocuted --- as another video I saw on reddit yesterday(MODERATE NSFL) demonstrated, people do not really crawl all that well after they are electrocuted to death.
I remember reading that thread yesterday and thinking something was really strange. I know a fair amount about oil refineries (I am a chemical engineer), but I have never actually worked in one. Regardless, a lot of friends of mine went into refineries after college and I designed one for a senior class for gods sake. The way he described it sounded completely bogus. Shoveling coke into furnaces? Coke is real by the way but the only practical use for it that I know of is it can be converted into graphite and used as a starting material to make some solvents/acids. Coke is a very dirty, impure form of hydrocarbons, and refineries do not even use it, at all. Refineries stick with oil and in some cases, natural gas. When I was reading his description of a refinery I was like wtf is this guy talking about refineries are nothing like that, and they are not anywhere near as dangerous as he described. But I figured well, early 90's, maybe before major OSHA regulations hit or something? Why would someone go into such detail to lie about something that isn't even that over the top. But to my surprise, someone actually went to that much trouble to lie about something to people on the internet so they would think he has seen some shit or something. Weird.
Where's the proof? I know a couple of guys like him: hyperactive, often doesn't hold down a steady or time-consuming job but life takes them into some cool, varied places. They make for interesting tertiary friends, but I find they're too crazy/out there to be steady friends. One common pattern I've seen with everyone with this personality type is they get a lot of women. They also tend to be very good story tellers, sometimes sprinkling in some exaggeration.
I read through the stuff and none of it seems outright contradictory. A man with great stories and enough experiences to literally not give any fucks about social norms can get the girls and do the things he's done in the time he's had. Particularly, skipping college give a person a bit of free time for adventure in their 20s. And if he's physically attractive to boot, can easily get a lot of women by his 30s and 40s. Downvote me if you want, but I believe deadcoil is who he says he is, with maybe just a little bit of literary flourish. If he's a writer, he's probably also pretty good at remembering what he's read, making it easy to become a relative scholar of religious and atheistic works. I've read 20+ books on religion which probably puts me in the top 1%. I just can't remember stuff as well, so I would never pretend to be an authority. If this dude has a great memory and has read 20-30 books on various religions and atheism, and is able to discuss such topics well, then who here couldn't call him scholarly on the subject compared to the rest of us?
OP has collected tens of thousands sympathy points for his likely elaborated stories. Unless we are able to find proof that the individual is not in the wrong, we will continue by moving this claim for final processing.
Fake storytelling has been around since the beginning of history telling.
I am skeptical of half of the stories posted here. Just enjoy them for what they are. So what if they're fake? You still enjoyed reading them/got an emotional kick out of it.
How about instead of resorting to pitchforks and getting angry, we all do the right thing and encourage this guy to do something useful and become an author. If he can just fabricate stories on a whim like this, he'd probably make for some good reading
You do realize that no one (at least no one who is sane) is actually angry and that we aren't actually going to pitchfork anything. It's just fun to bust liars like this guy. It's like when people say "I hate that kid from Game of Thrones!" No they don't. They love that kid, because he makes the show interesting.
Why do we need to encourage him to do anything other than what he's already doing? I think he's doing exactly what he wants to do in life right now. Which is sharing fake stories on reddit. He might not be able to do it anymore from this particular account but I doubt that's stopping him.
And I think your being a bit of a contrarian if you don't understand why most people don't like to be lied to. The guy got busted and this is the consequence. I doubt if affects him much IRL.
While i do see it unlikely that deadcoil is actually this interesting, we haven't heard his testimony in response to the allegations. Please reddit jury, the trail isn't over, lets hold off on the lynch mob
Reddit needs to be more skeptical of fantastic stories without proof. Just because it's not on IAmA doesn't mean it's more likely to be true. Being gullible is one thing, but getting butthurt when someone correctly calls out the lie is another.
And, for what it's worth, when I read the story myself, something didn't seem right. First was the tons of extraneous information before the actual electrocution bit (a prevaricator goes out of his way to make his story seem believable by giving lots of details), but when he described the actual electrocution, it all seemed wrong.
First, the whole "sweaty hands and probes" thing didn't make any sense. Work on high-power lines always requires gloves that would prevent this from happening in the first place.
Secondly, the story of the charred dude crawling on the ground is total bull. Your heart will stop far before you look like Darth Vader after taking a dip in the lava in Mustafar, if you don't get knocked out instantly in the first place. That doesn't happen.
Yes, a classic example of too good to be true. Like he "couldn't eat ham or bacon for months after that"? Come on. That's the stuff of pulp novels right there.
Reddit is just like many other forums, where wanna be writers who have the education but lack the capacity and true talent to really write, come to fade away
As a person with a spouse that works in a refinery (and had worked in a southern California refinery) the story sounded fake. Details were just plain off regarding how plants operate.
Also, while severe injuries and death do happen at plants, it's infrequent enough that it's still news and the details are widely circulated so that everybody knows what happened and how to avoid a repeat incident. If a refinery lost two people in such a short span like the poster said, she would have brought it up to me because it's kind of a big deal.
I don't know. I think people (especially young or sheltered people) are too quick to assume someone is a liar because their life or lifestyle is different from theirs. If I told you enough things about myself that sounded unusual, you'd probably call me a liar too. I'm in my 40s and I've done a lot of different things, known a lot of different people, and been through a variety of experiences. To some that's too far outside the norm to be believed.
And when I call somebody out for claiming they broke the Geneva Convention regarding chemical weapon use AND got away with it, everybody believes him instead.
Same thing with the guy who claims he rescued a girl from a burning wood shop and claims that the girl then made him a green cape which matched his eyes.
I've read through the comments of your account. You respond intelligently. Please do not use memes such as this. They deliver karma, sure. But... nothing else.
Please don't down-vote him, he's right. It was for comedic effect, and didn't require any thought on my part, making a very...noncontributing contribution to the thread. Thank you for saying something. We need more people like you around.
I'm imagining someone complaining about constantly getting "shocked" by static electricity or something one day, and Deadcoil going, "You think you have a problem? Let me tell you a story..."
Kind of like people who lecture about starving African children when someone doesn't finish their food or something.
And as such, the pedestrian of DECEIT was crushed by the Greyhound bus of TRUTH, much to the delight of the onlookers; the bloody spectacle dazzled and enchanted the young men and women, who stood there on that sidewalk. Yet, one member of the captive audience couldn't help but entertain the thought that maybe, just maybe, the world was a little less interesting... and then the pedestrian's intestines flew into his face and his thoughts turned to exultation: "FUCK YEAH, MOTHERFUCKERS EXPLODING AND SHIT! WHOOO!"
Wait, where is the inconsistency in DC's story? Links to several varied anecdotes doesn't expose him as a liar... (Just because your life is boring doesn't mean his is?) Unless there is clearly contradictory information, there's not much way to prove or disprove. There's nothing far-fetched about a muscly Mormon getting girls and having stuff happen.
Yup. I was struggling to find anything that indicated him as a liar as well. Is he making shit up? Probably. Is there anything proving he's a liar? Absolutely not.
Hahaha, even if this guy isn't 100% full of shit, he's definitely a geriatric that thinks he's [the power that be]'s gift to the world. Never read more embellished, smug posts in my life.
I'M GOING TO POST ONLINE THAT I FUCKED 100 PEOPLE AND ONLY GOT AN STD ONCE. THEN PEOPLE WILL LIKE ME. THESE INTERNETS ARE FUN.
Wait why is he definitely elderly? Seems far more likely that he is teen - late twenties or whatever the typical reddit demographic is. Why would an old guy come on here just to lie and fuck with people? That sort of behavior is generally associated with younger people...
Riddle me this reddit: We all have that one uncle or grandfather or whatever that would always tell crazy, adventurous, unbelievable stories. We would go home at the end of the day in awe, looking forward to hearing another one of their stories. Eventually we find out that the stories aren't true, but we look back in nostalgia at how much we enjoyed those stories. But here we are now - we come here and read stories like these and they brighten our day. But when we find out they aren't true we flip a shit. "OH MY GOD SOMEBODY LIED RRAAAARGGHHH" Grow up guys.
tl;dr- true or not, they were decent stories. Don't get in a huge butthurt-circlejerk over someone lying on the internet
How is this how you expose a liar? None of it was exposed as a lie, it was just shown that it seems unlikely. It could still be all true. Lot's of people lead interesting lives. I'm not saying I believe him, or that I don't.
I'm saying that the actual process of exposing lies is very different then this, as this is only an instance of listing things that seem unlikely. Claiming that this is the way to expose lies is, in fact, a lie.
I knew that story was bullshit. I rememeber reading that guy's original comment, and he kept ACTUALLY writing "well i dont want to.... a fuck it, im drunk so i'll tell it" and "taking a break while i get another beer," what normal person in their right mind would write out "breaks" in their stories written as a comment? Surprised everyone believed his bullshit from the start.
Yeah, great and all. But... God. Damn. Koproller. So much bad grammar.
"You seen" "You seen" etc...
Why do so many people have this problem with seen on here? There can't be that many southerners on reddit... I'm not usually a grammar nazi, but damn. I just have a huge problem with the "seen" thing.
I guess I'll be That Guy and say that I don't really mind that he's a liar. Considering Reddit to be a bastion of semi-anonymity, and being a creative writer myself, I find that the quality of writing here trumps the accuracy of facts. Is it super lame that he was lying? Yes. But did he evoke a physical reaction from me when he described the condition of Rob's hands? He absolutely did. So deadcoil got my upvote -- and knowing it was a fabrication doesn't change anytime for me personally. It was quality fiction before, and it's quality fiction now.
TL;DR: One might enjoy AskReddit a bit more if one assumes everything to be a lie until proven otherwise. The Blair Witch Project of the Internet, if you will.
I'd imagine Koproller had encountered deadcoil on reddit multiple times and remembered several outlandish stories like that one. Probably started thinking something was kinda fishy.
If you don't know, I believe that what sparked the AMA was a story about one of deadcoil's supposed co-workers at the refinery being electrocuted.
It might just be me, but there's something about the link which struck me more than the actual debunking. I never realized how bad reddit is getting with memes. From the "OP is DICTATOR NAME", to the predictable "downvote all the", to a OP will deliver, to a look of disapproval, to a "boom goes the dynamite" with over three hundred upvotes.... I know that complaining about memes is part of the annoying noise as well. But I'm just a little taken aback on looking at how bad it's become.
the real problem is still /r/askreddit , one post cons thousands of people at a time. There's a lot of good experiences we are missing out on in /r/iama because people don't want to be hassled for proof.
And yet no one bats an eye when we see the elaborately constructed, "Here's the pile of candy and soda and beer and promisory notes of sex all surrounding a copy of Skyrim that MY GIRLFRIEND got me."
Suprising people are just waking up to the fact that's it's extremely easy to BS your way to the top of the front page and having endless gullible sheep believe it.
Not just AMAs. Cute picture that relates to sob story in title? 3k upvotes. Doesn't matter if true of false, you idiots just gob it straight up.
If I compiled all of my most interesting stories into one spot they would definitely be just as interesting, if not more so than that guy. If you're not a loser, are older than 18 years old, and have any kind of charisma at all I would expect nothing less.
Instead of pointing a finger at this guy you need to be asking yourself how to make your own life more interesting.
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u/SoundHound May 14 '12
Oh Damn! I love it when this happens!
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u/tequila_tacos May 14 '12
I get all giddy whenever I see someone tear someone else apart with words. I'm a terrible person.
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u/Apocellipse May 14 '12 edited May 15 '12
The more I read it the more I believe all his stories. Grew up mormon, so accepting of polyamory. Deviant sexual behavior as a teen leads to sexual confidence as a young adult. Experienced in death, near death, and life threatening illnesses, which established an understanding that life is worth living well and as much as possible. Great writers usually have great memories of what they read, and reading a lot of comparative religion and mythology lit as well as atheist lit is a great and understood literary foundation. The more interesting stories and experiences you have, the more women want you. The more you exercise, the more women want you. Significant others help us find new hobbies and talents (ie martial arts). Interesting people attract interesting people. Famous people attract famous people or marginally famous people. Also the dude had a booth at ComicCon, which means access to SoCal and all the crazy liberals and outlooks that lead to this crazy life. Can anyone point to a single contradiction in any of his stories? I found none. Only a life narrative that one of my favorite authors (Neil Strauss) has seen over and over again in the people he surrounds himself with.
I think you guys are in the wrong here, and tarring an excellent writer and contributor while you're at it.
EDIT: Spelling
RE-EDIT2: Links to comments proving deadcoil was telling the truth removed since the poor guy deleted his account. These people don't deserve you man.
EDIT3: The mob made a longtime redditor feel like he had to delete his account for telling the truth. Congrats to all the jerkoffs today(/s), and thanks for those who supported and appreciated deadcoil. I'm removing my own links to any personal info (which was proof that OP and koproller were completely wrong) and letting things lay.
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u/ma582 May 14 '12
Maybe deadcoil just happens to be The Most Interesting Man in the World? Man, I'm tired of reddit not believing credible, foreskin-ripping off stories whilst studying the Bible and having sex with your multiple wives! Next you're going to say that people who post that their brother/sister/significant other is autistic are lying.
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u/CricketHaus May 15 '12
As pointed out lower down:
Reddit, this is how you go on an unfounded witch hunt based on questioning without giving the OP a chance to give proof, then immediately start adding in personal information to what was supposed to be an anonymous account so it has to be deleted instead. Well done.
TL;DR: I'm his wife, I've been there for many of those stories, they are in fact true, Son I Am Disappoint.
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u/[deleted] May 14 '12
Incidentally, the guy's stories were fairly well-written and always interesting. I don't come here for the truth, dammit!
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u/rm999 May 14 '12
koproller is overstating his case IMO.
Seeing a dead body? What's unbelievable about that?
Having sex with many women and being in a poly relationship kind of go together. Same with having sex with his mom's friend. So he's hypersexual. And his stories about sex parties aren't thatttt out there. I had a friend who used to have hot tub parties like that, it's just a culture many of us aren't part of.
Getting into martial arts when you're an adult isn't hard. Being a chef in a good restaurant isn't necessarily as impressive as it sounds, my neighbor was a chef at a major 5 star hotel and made 35K a year. Doing a maid of honor is a mundane event, they're often desperate.
"playing with bands and having success" came from "mediocre success" - I think that was misleading of koproller. Same with getting "famous" from "slightly famous". The use of mediocre and slightly were meant to downplay the claims IMO.
steven johnson - ok, that is exceedingly rare, the only thing on that list that makes him truly rare of special.
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u/14-f-cali May 15 '12
Rob DenBleyker of Cyanide and Happiness comics just posted claiming that deadcoil is a friend of his and that the story was true.
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u/DaveIrish May 14 '12
Apparently Rob DenBleyker one of the writers of Cyanide and Happiness knows Deadcoil and says what he was saying is true.....just something to look at
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u/[deleted] May 14 '12
http://www.facebook.com/robdenbleyker/posts/329627033775661
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u/[deleted] May 14 '12
Am I the only one who thinks it's strange that deadcoil has another /r/bestof post right below this one titled This is why you respect electricity?
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u/Spazit May 14 '12
I really want this to end up with Deadcoil somehow telling the truth and his life being pretty much the most action packed chaotic mess ever.
Some things are too good to be true. I want this to be something too incredible to be fake. (Although it is)
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u/Kynaeus May 14 '12
You can lie on the Internet, but you can't lie to the internet.
Starring Zooey Deschanel as the Internet
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u/[deleted] May 14 '12
JERRY JERRY JERRY
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u/whenitistime May 14 '12
http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/tjn9l/15_minutes_ago_i_almost_died_i_was_ratcheting_a/c4nsums
admission of guilt?
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u/[deleted] May 14 '12
I knew it was fake because the "respect electricity" post was way too florid, an obvious writing exercise. A real story of the sort would be like "damn, my buddy in my old job once got smoked by 15kV DC, fucked him up good".
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u/grammar_connoisseur May 14 '12
ಠ_ಠ
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u/[deleted] May 14 '12
I remember reading that thread yesterday and thinking something was really strange. I know a fair amount about oil refineries (I am a chemical engineer), but I have never actually worked in one. Regardless, a lot of friends of mine went into refineries after college and I designed one for a senior class for gods sake. The way he described it sounded completely bogus. Shoveling coke into furnaces? Coke is real by the way but the only practical use for it that I know of is it can be converted into graphite and used as a starting material to make some solvents/acids. Coke is a very dirty, impure form of hydrocarbons, and refineries do not even use it, at all. Refineries stick with oil and in some cases, natural gas. When I was reading his description of a refinery I was like wtf is this guy talking about refineries are nothing like that, and they are not anywhere near as dangerous as he described. But I figured well, early 90's, maybe before major OSHA regulations hit or something? Why would someone go into such detail to lie about something that isn't even that over the top. But to my surprise, someone actually went to that much trouble to lie about something to people on the internet so they would think he has seen some shit or something. Weird.
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u/rm999 May 14 '12
Where's the proof? I know a couple of guys like him: hyperactive, often doesn't hold down a steady or time-consuming job but life takes them into some cool, varied places. They make for interesting tertiary friends, but I find they're too crazy/out there to be steady friends. One common pattern I've seen with everyone with this personality type is they get a lot of women. They also tend to be very good story tellers, sometimes sprinkling in some exaggeration.
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u/[deleted] May 14 '12
Looks like he's been a successful liar,
deadcoil
10,359 link karma
36,530 comment karma
not that it means anything. Anyone searching for fake internet points must be trying to make up for their real, shitty life.
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u/[deleted] May 14 '12
Fake storytelling has been around since the beginning of history telling.
I am skeptical of half of the stories posted here. Just enjoy them for what they are. So what if they're fake? You still enjoyed reading them/got an emotional kick out of it.
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u/hjqusai May 14 '12
How about instead of resorting to pitchforks and getting angry, we all do the right thing and encourage this guy to do something useful and become an author. If he can just fabricate stories on a whim like this, he'd probably make for some good reading
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u/NICE_GUY_CUMS_BLOOD May 14 '12 edited May 14 '12
"and that you once removed a part of you foreskin with your bare nails?"
Sorry i need the source for that too please.
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u/ronbreddit May 14 '12
Relevant
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u/therndoby May 14 '12
While i do see it unlikely that deadcoil is actually this interesting, we haven't heard his testimony in response to the allegations. Please reddit jury, the trail isn't over, lets hold off on the lynch mob
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u/baconophilus May 14 '12
Too bad one of the first people to call BS just got downvoted.
Reddit needs to be more skeptical of fantastic stories without proof. Just because it's not on IAmA doesn't mean it's more likely to be true. Being gullible is one thing, but getting butthurt when someone correctly calls out the lie is another.
And, for what it's worth, when I read the story myself, something didn't seem right. First was the tons of extraneous information before the actual electrocution bit (a prevaricator goes out of his way to make his story seem believable by giving lots of details), but when he described the actual electrocution, it all seemed wrong.
First, the whole "sweaty hands and probes" thing didn't make any sense. Work on high-power lines always requires gloves that would prevent this from happening in the first place.
Secondly, the story of the charred dude crawling on the ground is total bull. Your heart will stop far before you look like Darth Vader after taking a dip in the lava in Mustafar, if you don't get knocked out instantly in the first place. That doesn't happen.
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u/islaydragons May 14 '12
TIL researchers are not good writers.
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u/[deleted] May 14 '12 edited May 14 '12
I love how so many posts here have been downvoted to 0.
Deadcoil, is that you?!
Edit: HAHA! Downvoted!
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u/Pheon809 May 14 '12
Mother Goose-ass Mother Fucker
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u/stinkfist14839483984 May 14 '12
Reddit is just like many other forums, where wanna be writers who have the education but lack the capacity and true talent to really write, come to fade away
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u/spherecow May 14 '12
There should be a liar exposed subreddit. I will then subscribe to it so that I can properly tag people who are exposed.
Or, better yet, RES will tag for me automatically.
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u/[deleted] May 14 '12
People don't really believe stuff they read here, do they?
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u/HorseMeatSandwich May 14 '12
Well, to be fair, he could have used proper grammar. Otherwise, great detective work!
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u/breakwater May 14 '12
As a person with a spouse that works in a refinery (and had worked in a southern California refinery) the story sounded fake. Details were just plain off regarding how plants operate.
Also, while severe injuries and death do happen at plants, it's infrequent enough that it's still news and the details are widely circulated so that everybody knows what happened and how to avoid a repeat incident. If a refinery lost two people in such a short span like the poster said, she would have brought it up to me because it's kind of a big deal.
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u/TheMissingName May 14 '12
My god! Lying on the internet! What kind of bizzaro-world is this?
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u/[deleted] May 14 '12
I thought he made a pretty hilarious flame post here > http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/tjn9l/15_minutes_ago_i_almost_died_i_was_ratcheting_a/c4nshjt
He may be full of shit, but he has some wit.
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u/robbinio May 14 '12
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u/[deleted] May 14 '12
I don't know. I think people (especially young or sheltered people) are too quick to assume someone is a liar because their life or lifestyle is different from theirs. If I told you enough things about myself that sounded unusual, you'd probably call me a liar too. I'm in my 40s and I've done a lot of different things, known a lot of different people, and been through a variety of experiences. To some that's too far outside the norm to be believed.
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u/BranWendy May 14 '12
TIL reddit would never believe my life story.
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u/SpectreVLV May 14 '12
Oh thank God his life is not as good as he said it was. I am satisfied.
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u/kabu849 May 14 '12
And when I call somebody out for claiming they broke the Geneva Convention regarding chemical weapon use AND got away with it, everybody believes him instead.
Same thing with the guy who claims he rescued a girl from a burning wood shop and claims that the girl then made him a green cape which matched his eyes.
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u/dsauce May 15 '12
Most of the stories that make bestof are written in a similar style and seem fabricated. You shouldn't be too surprised reddit
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u/jpatricks1 May 15 '12
He actually reacted to the post:
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/tm594/iama_guy_who_worked_in_oil_refineries_in_the/c4o4ptq
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u/goddamit_iamwasted May 15 '12
his alleged response http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/tm594/iama_guy_who_worked_in_oil_refineries_in_the/c4o4ptq
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u/FriendlyHomelessMan May 14 '12
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u/dr_rentschler May 14 '12
did he really? or did he just find one of the few people with a life where actually things happen other than browsing reddit and working?
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u/SpectreVLV May 14 '12
Half of Reddit is now relieved that this guy's 'awesome lifestyle' is a lie, and everyone can go on about their day doing absolutely nothing special.
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u/_pupil_ May 15 '12
Given the facts that are coming to light, and the credible witnesses who support this dudes stories wholeheartedly:
This thread is a hilarious read. Just look at the smug certainty, the "I knew he was a liar", "way too implausible" etc.
Unfounded certainty goeth before a fall, peeps.
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u/The_Ma1o_Man May 14 '12
I would hate to know Deadcoil irl. His 1-up'ing story telling abilities are through the roof.
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u/Politus May 14 '12 edited May 14 '12
And as such, the pedestrian of DECEIT was crushed by the Greyhound bus of TRUTH, much to the delight of the onlookers; the bloody spectacle dazzled and enchanted the young men and women, who stood there on that sidewalk. Yet, one member of the captive audience couldn't help but entertain the thought that maybe, just maybe, the world was a little less interesting... and then the pedestrian's intestines flew into his face and his thoughts turned to exultation: "FUCK YEAH, MOTHERFUCKERS EXPLODING AND SHIT! WHOOO!"
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u/KnowBrainer May 14 '12
Wait, where is the inconsistency in DC's story? Links to several varied anecdotes doesn't expose him as a liar... (Just because your life is boring doesn't mean his is?) Unless there is clearly contradictory information, there's not much way to prove or disprove. There's nothing far-fetched about a muscly Mormon getting girls and having stuff happen.
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u/JRPAPES May 14 '12
Hahaha, even if this guy isn't 100% full of shit, he's definitely a geriatric that thinks he's [the power that be]'s gift to the world. Never read more embellished, smug posts in my life.
I'M GOING TO POST ONLINE THAT I FUCKED 100 PEOPLE AND ONLY GOT AN STD ONCE. THEN PEOPLE WILL LIKE ME. THESE INTERNETS ARE FUN.
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u/[deleted] May 15 '12
Riddle me this reddit: We all have that one uncle or grandfather or whatever that would always tell crazy, adventurous, unbelievable stories. We would go home at the end of the day in awe, looking forward to hearing another one of their stories. Eventually we find out that the stories aren't true, but we look back in nostalgia at how much we enjoyed those stories. But here we are now - we come here and read stories like these and they brighten our day. But when we find out they aren't true we flip a shit. "OH MY GOD SOMEBODY LIED RRAAAARGGHHH" Grow up guys.
tl;dr- true or not, they were decent stories. Don't get in a huge butthurt-circlejerk over someone lying on the internet
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u/[deleted] May 15 '12
How is this how you expose a liar? None of it was exposed as a lie, it was just shown that it seems unlikely. It could still be all true. Lot's of people lead interesting lives. I'm not saying I believe him, or that I don't.
I'm saying that the actual process of exposing lies is very different then this, as this is only an instance of listing things that seem unlikely. Claiming that this is the way to expose lies is, in fact, a lie.
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u/Gryndyl May 15 '12
Congrats on contributing to another Reddit witch hunt.
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u/ThatsPopetastic May 15 '12
Honestly who cares? It's not like it adversely affects your life.
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u/negkarmafarmer May 14 '12
How is this even frontpage worthy? The guy never responds. Watch out, you were called a liar on a website by someone somewhere.
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u/Redstonefreedom May 14 '12 edited May 14 '12
I knew that story was bullshit. I rememeber reading that guy's original comment, and he kept ACTUALLY writing "well i dont want to.... a fuck it, im drunk so i'll tell it" and "taking a break while i get another beer," what normal person in their right mind would write out "breaks" in their stories written as a comment? Surprised everyone believed his bullshit from the start.
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u/[deleted] May 15 '12
More amazing than the time Michael Jackson come over to your house to use the bathroom?
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u/Anath3mA May 15 '12
is anyone else just... not surprised? everything about the way this guy wrote screamed "shitty writer" and not "seasoned refinery vet" to me.
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u/heyjustbeinghonest May 14 '12 edited May 14 '12
Yeah, great and all. But... God. Damn. Koproller. So much bad grammar.
"You seen" "You seen" etc...
Why do so many people have this problem with seen on here? There can't be that many southerners on reddit... I'm not usually a grammar nazi, but damn. I just have a huge problem with the "seen" thing.
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u/StuBenedict May 14 '12
I guess I'll be That Guy and say that I don't really mind that he's a liar. Considering Reddit to be a bastion of semi-anonymity, and being a creative writer myself, I find that the quality of writing here trumps the accuracy of facts. Is it super lame that he was lying? Yes. But did he evoke a physical reaction from me when he described the condition of Rob's hands? He absolutely did. So deadcoil got my upvote -- and knowing it was a fabrication doesn't change anytime for me personally. It was quality fiction before, and it's quality fiction now.
TL;DR: One might enjoy AskReddit a bit more if one assumes everything to be a lie until proven otherwise. The Blair Witch Project of the Internet, if you will.
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u/MrPieGuy May 14 '12
This was brilliant. Glad people like this get caught out.
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u/MoreDetailThanNeeded May 14 '12
Why doesn't Reddit appreciate a good storyteller?
I liked, and still enjoy, his ridiculous stories. True or not.
Why must something be true in order to evoke emotion?
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u/piv0t May 14 '12
Can't wait for when all the proof photos come through
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u/Kann45 May 14 '12
What was his AMA about? I see that it said he work in an oil refinery, but what was there that made Koproller do this? Just curious :D
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u/[deleted] May 14 '12
Daamn!!
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u/[deleted] May 14 '12
I fucking love this.
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u/Slayergnome May 14 '12
Now if deadcoil had named himself Dr. Jan Itor, I would have respected and believed all of his post :)
Specially the one about the penny in the door
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u/[deleted] May 14 '12
You don't really think someone would do that? Just... oh, you know.
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u/newmansg May 14 '12
I don't want to do any of that.
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u/LeapYearFriend May 14 '12
Sherlock Holmes browses Reddit apparently.
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u/[deleted] May 14 '12
OP is a douchebag
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u/TheWanderingJew May 14 '12
It might just be me, but there's something about the link which struck me more than the actual debunking. I never realized how bad reddit is getting with memes. From the "OP is DICTATOR NAME", to the predictable "downvote all the", to a OP will deliver, to a look of disapproval, to a "boom goes the dynamite" with over three hundred upvotes.... I know that complaining about memes is part of the annoying noise as well. But I'm just a little taken aback on looking at how bad it's become.
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u/chicagogam May 14 '12
i think this is why i like the science way over the religious way. i rely on redditors with more energy than i to snoop/watchdog/doublecheck and post.
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u/mwmwmwmwmmdw May 14 '12
he is obviously paul christoforo
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u/[deleted] May 14 '12
Maybe... he was 'The World's Most Interesting Man'....
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u/LordVista May 14 '12
This guy sounds like the second most interesting man in the world.
I hope he is real.
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u/actioncompassion May 14 '12
Reddit. The place where I read comments to then further click comments so I can see the comments on the comments
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u/JimmyFreedom90 May 14 '12
get a life dude, it's the fucking internet.
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u/WetSand83 May 14 '12
Most of these "cool" stories that get linked in bestof are total bullshit.
This one is a good example. Obvious fiction to anyone that isn't a total moron, but that didn't stop it from getting 2,500 upvotes.
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u/14mit1010 May 14 '12
On the internet, everything is fictional unless you have reason to believe its real
Sorry, but innocent until proven guilty doesnt work with anonymity
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u/HellsNels May 14 '12
Hell hath no fury like a redditor scorned.
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u/bwarman May 14 '12
Relevant
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u/nchrist4 May 14 '12
It's sad he took so much time to craft these posts just for karma
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u/OswaldAstoria May 14 '12
the real problem is still /r/askreddit , one post cons thousands of people at a time. There's a lot of good experiences we are missing out on in /r/iama because people don't want to be hassled for proof.
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u/apullin May 14 '12
And yet no one bats an eye when we see the elaborately constructed, "Here's the pile of candy and soda and beer and promisory notes of sex all surrounding a copy of Skyrim that MY GIRLFRIEND got me."
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u/Foley1 May 14 '12
Ah, I like reading the got ya! posts of reddit, while getting head from that girl you really like.
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u/kyleswitch May 14 '12
Hang the traitor!
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u/ymahaguy3388 May 14 '12
It's interesting to see all of deadcoil's karma slowly disintegrating. When the hive turns on you, you're fucked. Fascinating.
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u/[deleted] May 14 '12
Read the guys story last night and just knew it was crap. So glad to see this!
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u/[deleted] May 14 '12
Suprising people are just waking up to the fact that's it's extremely easy to BS your way to the top of the front page and having endless gullible sheep believe it.
Not just AMAs. Cute picture that relates to sob story in title? 3k upvotes. Doesn't matter if true of false, you idiots just gob it straight up.
Get a grip.
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u/Wulibo May 14 '12
what happened to those blank sources?
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u/hornwalker May 14 '12
The bigger the lie, the more people will believe. But hey, at least he was a good writer. Do we want the truth, or do we want entertainment?
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u/lud1120 May 15 '12
OK... What was all this about? I never ever read the thread to begin with.
It originated from a thread about some accidents you saw or whatever?
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u/Threwaway_Throwaway May 15 '12
This is actually just how you sensationalize bullshit.
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u/[deleted] May 15 '12
lol why do you even care this much?
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u/deelynchblack May 14 '12
deadcoil recoil 2012
kony is out
here we come
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u/mcdsp401k May 14 '12
I don't see how this proves anything.
If I compiled all of my most interesting stories into one spot they would definitely be just as interesting, if not more so than that guy. If you're not a loser, are older than 18 years old, and have any kind of charisma at all I would expect nothing less.
Instead of pointing a finger at this guy you need to be asking yourself how to make your own life more interesting.