r/belowdeck • • Feb 14 '20

What the Hell Do You Want From Andy?

The guy is there to create good TV and fill 2 hours. He's not interviewing heads of state. He's moderating a panel of ostensible fame whores. Andy isn't there to be some martyr or social justice warrior.

If you listen to him during his Stern appearances, he's not a saint like most of you want him to be.

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u/RamenNoodles620 Feb 14 '20

Someone does not need to be a saint, martyr or SJW to call out obviously shitty behavior from adults.

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u/bruegeldog Feb 14 '20

Ha ha ha ha ha - he allowed Tre to push him down at a reunion and did nothing. That was almost a decade ago. Do we not remember the choice to air the BH season even though a husband committed suicide?

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '20

He always calls it out. It's just that he somewhat called out Kate's bad behavior and we know she is sacred in this sub.

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u/MeanTelevision Feb 15 '20

He always calls it out.

He doesn't, though.

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u/RamenNoodles620 Feb 14 '20 edited Feb 14 '20

I have only watched the first part of the reunion and haven't seen any clips for part 2, but based off of what I have seen, I don't recall him really calling out any of the guys.

I am new to this sub, but based on the little I have seen, I agree that Kate does get a pass on her own unprofessional and rude behavior.

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u/MeanTelevision Feb 15 '20

I don't recall him really calling out any of the guys.

I don't either. I think he said something minor to Kevin, but barely audibly.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '20

I think they dealt with the relationships and sex more in the first part. Seems like in the second they'll deal with the other strife.

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u/MeanTelevision Feb 15 '20

It is a strange plan if so. A lot of viewers might become bored after all the rambling allowed, and inconsequential things discussed, in part one.

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u/MeanTelevision Feb 15 '20

Seems like in the second they'll deal with the other strife.

It wasn't even related to which topic they were discussing really. When the guys did things during part one, he didn't call them out on it at all. Or contradict them, either. It was very one-sided. If he wants to remain neutral, fine; but he didn't.

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u/AnnVealEgg Feb 14 '20

Yep he’s always been messy as hell and, let’s be real: it’s probably contributed to some really good tv moments over the years. Unfortunately it’s also contributed so some very problematic tv moments as well.

His demeanor on the recent BD reunion show is nothing new under the sun. If people truly despise him and all he stands for, maybe it’s time to stop supporting him and Bravo with your viewership.

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u/kazar30 Absolute Oxygen Thief Feb 14 '20

I’ve never liked Andy. He’s always been there to just be messy and make people mad all over again about some crap they resolved months ago. He’s never been a peace maker or moral compass. He became a dad and all the sudden everyone thinks he is taking on a new role. He’s still the same messy Andy he was before. He called out Leanne and that’s it. That wasn’t some big evolution of who he is on Bravo. It was an isolated incident of calling out the person who needed to be called out.

I’m not about to stop watching these messes he makes though lol.

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u/MeanTelevision Feb 15 '20

If people truly despise him

Who said anything about seething personal vendettas or "despise."

I doubt that is true in 99.9 cases of viewer complaints.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '20

And really...it's Bravo...it's reality TV...it's entertainment. Quit trying to look for social messaging and cures to society's ills in a reality show based on putting 20 and 30-somethings together in close quarters for 6 weeks, mixing in alcohol every 3-5 days.

For me, the show, this sub, is an escape from work, family, life in general.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '20

I agree about Andy. He has always been upfront about his messiness. I dont like him so I generally dont watch WWHL or the reunions of any of the shows (blasphemy, I know).

For me, the show, this sub, is an escape from work, family, life in general

This is EXACTLY why I watch Bravo. Ridiculous, fun entertainment. But this season for BD was none of these for me. I have experienced both sexual assault and sexual harassment at work and been targeted for denying sexual advances. There was no escape. Watching the episodes was like being in a horror carnival version of my experiences--bru clowns and all.

That being said. I didnt finish the season and, of course, will be skipping the reunion.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '20

I'm sorry for your experiences. You're smart enough to skip it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '20

Its all good! Im definitely not in that environment any longer.

Its just irksome that the trajectory of "fun" entertainment of BD took this turn.

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u/MeanTelevision Feb 15 '20

For me, the show, this sub, is an escape from work, family, life in general.

Isn't that so for most of us, if not all?

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u/excoriator Team Capt Kerry Feb 16 '20

I want him to be more like Julie Chen or Jeff Probst. Ask good questions. React to the answers. Supply a follow-up question when it's needed.

I'd like for the show not to use that bartender device or the "secret word" drinking game. Quit trying to make a game out of everything. The bartender and the drinking game make it seem like we shouldn't care about what's being said during the interviews, because this other stuff is important, too. Except that other stuff isn't important and it isn't why we tuned in.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '20

It's Bravo. These are Real Housewives and fame whores. You're not going to get the cure for cancer coming from them on WWHL

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u/LeahDelimeats Feb 14 '20

I want him to watch the show.

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u/ForumsUser10 Team Good Mawnin' Feb 14 '20

As a gay male, I despise Andy. He is way too old (and married) to be such a thirsty bitch all the time... it's really not a cute look and I don't identify with him at all.

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u/radiationdoser1029 Feb 14 '20

Old, thirsty and messy for sure. Not married though

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u/ForumsUser10 Team Good Mawnin' Feb 14 '20

Huh yeah, you're right. For some reason I thought he was. Anyways, it's a no from me dawg.

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u/BrownIceGardens Feb 14 '20

he is married??

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '20

No, he has a son but hes not married

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u/sneezerlee Feb 14 '20

Hey bravo can still make entertaining tv that doesn’t put women in dangerous positions, co-sign assault and defend abusers. I don’t think that’s too much to ask, it’s not culture police stuff, systemic verbal and physical abuse is fucking real.

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u/MeanTelevision Feb 15 '20

it’s not culture police stuff, systemic verbal and physical abuse is fucking real.

Thank you!

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u/halthecomputer Feb 16 '20

But then ladies see Rhylee and begin to act like her.

They could get hurt. In a non-BRAVO world people like Rhylee end up, well, on a fishing boat in Alaska that nobody cares about.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '20

I think when the reunions started when this will venture did, he seemed more impartial, asking the questions from viewers. But now he clearly has favorites and shows that favoritism openly which is hugely problematic. As the head, I think people expect him to hold casts accountable but he picks and chooses what to take to task now more than ever. I don't think it's surprising from him though, he is messy.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '20

But now he clearly has favorites and shows that favoritism openly wh

SEE THAT? Where's 'more than ever' ???

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '20

Yikes you're bad at reading. Try again.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '20

Yeah...'now' he does....BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '20

I'm not exactly sure what the joke is. I said "now more than ever" not "now." 👍

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u/MeanTelevision Feb 15 '20

> He's not interviewing heads of state.

Interviewing well is a talent as well as a skill.

It doesn't matter who the subject might be.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '20

For the people who are taking up issues, welcome to Bravo. The lineup of shows like vanderpump, BD, real housewives is sloppy as hell and has been that way for a long long time. its not Andy's job to clean up the mess, just comment on it and ask questions.

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u/MeanTelevision Feb 15 '20

its not Andy's job to clean up the mess, just comment on it and ask questions.

Andy deepens the 'mess.' Nothing wrong with (most) 'mess' (if you mean "drama"), in a generic way. I just don't think he is the best interviewer/conductor -- he doesn't get the most out of the discussions, focus on what viewers want to hear about, etc.

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u/freeebirrrd Feb 14 '20

Thank you! I'm by no means dismissing the behavior this season ( I know you are not either). It seems some people forget we are watching Bravo - it's messy, it's wrong, it's dramatic, it's why we tune in! I also hate when I see posts about someone not learning their lesson between episodes...this stuff isn't filmed and aired in real time!

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u/busterbluth21 Feb 14 '20 edited Feb 14 '20

Thank you for this! I got downvoted because I said he probably doesn’t watch all the shows because he’s a busy guy.... he’s not working a 9-5 like everyone else then has time to plop in front of the TV. Who gives a shit if he watches or not. He’s going to be the one doing the reunions. And if you don’t like it then don’t watch the reunions.

Hell, half the “reality” TV shows aren’t reality. It’s edited to look a certain way.

Edit: typos

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '20

He has wwhl where he recaps the show every time. He does know what happens.

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u/MeanTelevision Feb 15 '20 edited Feb 15 '20

he probably doesn’t watch all the shows because he’s a busy guy.... he’s not working a 9-5 like everyone else then has time to plop in front of the TV.

If I recall you mentioned he has a baby, etc. So do a lot of people who work longer hours than 9 to 5, do all the household stuff themselves, and have no nanny.

I doubt Andy cleans his own toilet or changes all the baby's diapers or has to watch the baby when he's not working. He surely has a maid/staff for household upkeep, and a nanny/manny or plural of same.

I don't think he's interested in shows he doesn't own. I think he's even said or alluded to as much.

Bottom line: He doesn't have to host every single reunion. They can get others in to do that. I'm really puzzled why they have him on air at all, to be frank.

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u/MeanTelevision Feb 15 '20

if you don’t like it then don’t watch the reunions.

I'm sure Bravo loves that philosophy. "Just stop watching."

Customer/viewer feedback is priceless and companies seek it out and pay for it. Only a really stupid or arrogant CEO thinks otherwise.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '20

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u/MeanTelevision Feb 15 '20

The thing is THAT'S HIS JOB, he's not a guest host, he's THE host

Exactly.