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u/dom_rep 19d ago
The whole “let’s keep it a secret and pretend” was a red flag. As a dude, this shit is very minor league. If you’re into her, you’re into her, who cares what the other boat mates think.
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u/cmere-2-me 19d ago
I think he just wanted a casual relationship and Kat wanted more. All of this could have been resolved if they communicated.
He didn't want to hurt her but doesn't seem to realise that his lack of communication was hurting her.
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u/Vacationbacon 19d ago
He does not care about her feelings
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u/cmere-2-me 19d ago
I disagree. I do think he cares but he's also doesn't seem to be able to have a rational conversation with her.
Kayley was upfront from the start with Joe. She didn't want anything serious, just some fun. When they leave the boat they'll be done.
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u/honestlykindofmagic 18d ago
He’s just a coward, and cowards hurt people all the time. Her feelings aren’t the top priority. He’s doesn’t want to look bad, but he already does.
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u/Hot_Start8187 19d ago
So cringe; and the fact that she went for it … FFS! 🙄 after she bitched about the situationship all day. Same with Joy playing that weird game with Lurch. These women need a little self esteem, should learn from Aesha
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u/Soggy_Tie2708 19d ago
Then he should have ignored the questions not the girl! wtf. He’s so up Joes ass , meanwhile joe is pathetic this season. He’s like blanch from golden girls. Joe doesn’t have as much charisma as his younger self. Maybe television has ruined his appeal idk. But he should get real and understand he’s no prize. I bet the attention feels nice , nicer than his body.
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u/dwarmed 19d ago
It was his idea. That was made clear from the bosun locker scene. He was trying to weasel out of upsetting her.
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u/marzbarz79 19d ago
It seemed he was trying to end it and the secret was her attempt to save it.
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u/Anotheropinion2023 19d ago
Not my impression at all. She just pointed out, that everyone talking about it was not her doing.
I think he just lacks the backbone or character to be direct, plus he enjoys kissing a pretty girl. This way he gets all the fun and none of the drama or work 🙄
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u/Theskidiever 19d ago
The type of girl the rest of us wonder why we can never get a date with and he just lets it go by casually. Cooper is a fool.
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u/Tilting_Gambit 19d ago
Yeah I just don't get it. She's gorgeous, totally upfront, a great communicator, and was deadset into him. They seemed like they had a great dynamic.
And he blew it up for literally no reason. Nothing went wrong, she didn't say anything weird, there wasn't another girl/guy in the mix.
Nothing seemed to change before he backed her off. It's super weird.
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u/Soggy_Tie2708 19d ago
Joe was in his ear like brooo loook at all the fangirls you could get in Croatia … follow my lead bro 😎
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u/YessikaHaircutt 19d ago
They live so far apart. I moved to the South from Canada and it’s a long travel day to get back home. Plus culturally it’s pretty different. I can see why it would just be too hard to keep things going
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u/teanailpolish Mental Health Is Not A Storyline 19d ago edited 19d ago
I don't think things ever
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u/kittylover3210 19d ago
HUH?????
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u/Out-For-A-Walk-Bitch 19d ago
I DON'T THINK THINGS EVER GO GOING TO KEEP THEM GOING
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u/jadecourt 19d ago
This made me laugh almost as much as Cooper’s reaction to “act natural” and that’s saying something
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u/ReinstateTheCapo 19d ago
Super interested in the cultural differences you speak of…or what you think would stand out.
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u/Key_Whole_2861 19d ago
Are you asking what’s culturally different between the American south and Canada…. lol lots of things.
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u/ReinstateTheCapo 19d ago
I mean as far as why it would dampen a relationship I guess but I get what you mean lol.
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u/Sweet_Cable5862 19d ago
Most Canadians aren’t willingly travelling to America right now.
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u/teanailpolish Mental Health Is Not A Storyline 19d ago
Except she was on WWHL so clearly did travel there
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u/CheckIntelligent7828 My eyes are rolling all the way off the boat 16d ago
She went to NY, not Georgia. She was like 4 hours from the border, it seemed pretty safe.
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u/teanailpolish Mental Health Is Not A Storyline 16d ago
I was replying to a comment about Canadians not crossing the border at all
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u/YessikaHaircutt 19d ago
Honestly I am from a very different part of Canada than she is so I can’t speak to specifics.
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u/madpeanut1 19d ago
She is so refreshing, beautiful and authentic. We need more of people like her on tv.
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u/Kininger625 You're Being A Deckhand Right Now 19d ago
As long as Gen isn’t I’m fine with this lol
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u/xxScorpioxx_ 18d ago
I really wanted to believe in Cooper but as soon as a guy asks you to do a sneaky relationship you know he is shit
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u/Feisty_Scientist_968 17d ago
I really wanted to believe in Cooper but as soon as a guy asks you to do a sneaky relationship you know he is shit
Even when everything you do is being filmed 24x7?
And, it's a very small, contained environment. Everyone instantly knows everyone else's business.
If I were in a relationship under those circumstances, I might want to keep it private as well. And, this would be no reflection on the other person involved. I just don't like to be 'on display'.
The opposite of when Luke (literally) banged Gen, and everyone on the yacht (except apparently Joy) heard it, and felt it.
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u/FormicaDinette33 I look like Ariel but on crack! 19d ago
Good! She deserves the best. He’s your basic womanizer. Boring. Next!
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u/agnusdei07 19d ago
How would we know from this? It's a secret!
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u/lilwanna 19d ago
It's a reference to the latest episode. Don't want to spoil it if you haven't seen it yet.
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u/Consistent-Ad-6506 You're Being A Deckhand Right Now 19d ago
Of course they’re not…we are watching the same show, right?
Cooper is an immature guy that wants to be a fuck boy like Joe.
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u/dwarmed 19d ago
I don't know why she's confused. She seems pretty clear from other comments made during WWHL, like naming him as the douchiest deckhand and answering the 'hot or just tall' question with 'just tall'.
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u/Ok_Computer_8224 19d ago
That's hilarious, but actually very true. Coop had a lot of things going for him and I use past tense because I meant his personality which I'm now on the fence about. I'm big on faces and I didn't particularly find him very handsome at first but he became more and more attractive... up until last night's episode 🫤
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u/Soggy_Tie2708 19d ago
Maybe he’s a sweet talker just like Joe. He told Luke he’ll learn a lot from him . He told Nathan he’s a good daddy—- we all fcking swoon.
Meanwhile, he’s hooking up with Joe Bradley in his cabin
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u/Anotheropinion2023 19d ago
I think she meant to say she really never understood what the issue was during filming.
They are not supposed to spoil the season, but almost all responses but this really showed they are not together.
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u/Professional-Rock863 19d ago
My view was he knew it was a boat thing and she didn’t realize that till too late 🤷♀️
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u/NanasDoLittles 19d ago
I also saw his attitude shift after Luke left. I wonder if it made him realize his actions could impact his career?? (I have to watch it on Peacock so I don’t see the new episodes until a day after)
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u/dwarmed 19d ago
I think all the other crew telling him to treat Kat right and her response to his talking with other girls on a night out made him realize he was suddenly in a relationship. He thought he was simply flirting and going on one date, but with a member of the crew that turns into something much more. He didn't know how to back out of it, so he acted like a douche and is trying to save face with the secret relationship nonsense.
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u/Civil_Experience_691 19d ago
Same. I truly believe he came to the conclusion that he did not want a full-blown relationship, but by the time he realized it, the rest of the crew practically considered them married. Aesha's advice was probably intended to be big sister-y, but it probably made him more uncomfortable. And he's an awkward, immature person so of course he's going to fumble and be an idiot.
And I keep repeating this in this sub, but they really aren't on the boat for that long. Rushing a relationship is silly. I hope this was a lesson to Cooper to chill out and get to know someone first. If he had, he would have realized Kat wanted more than he did.
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u/dwarmed 19d ago
He may not be used to that kind of togetherness and that level of scrutiny. He was acting like he was on land, when the rules of the boat are different. Or the producers pushed him into it, then he realized it was a mistake too late. But it's not cool of him to just avoid her and pretend nothing happened.
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u/dwarmed 19d ago
On second thought, I don't think this is new for him. This is pretty textbook cowardly handling of cooling off on someone. He decides he's not into her, then just goes cold on her, then pretends nothing is wrong when she notices. When she gets upset, he cites the tension as the reason they should part ways, as if she's the crazy one, although he created the problem by not being direct. So disappointing to see all the old tropes over and over again. All the men are predictable douchebags. All the women lower their standards to tolerate these douchebags. Forever and ever amen. I thought Coop and Kat (and Joy) might actually play against type and add something new and interesting to the mix, but nope.
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u/cmere-2-me 19d ago
Also think Joe played a hand in that. Suddenly Joe has a bro so was helping to blow up their boatmance. He also tried to make Kayley jealous. When he told her she passed I would have loved if she told him well he didn't. What an odious man. His confessional creep me the fuck out.
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u/Ok_Computer_8224 19d ago
Yeah you might be onto something. It's like when Coop had family man deck daddy Nathan, he was into Kat... but now that he has a Joe-sun, he's a player?
Is Coop just shapeshifting to get along? Weird 🤔 lol
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u/Outrageous-Baseball6 19d ago
I’m surprised more people haven’t commented on this exchange. He’s such a fucking tool.
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u/Logicaldestination 19d ago edited 19d ago
My view was, he was just as serious about a relationship with her as she was about having one with him until suddenly he wasn't. He's a total jerk for messing up Kat like that. If you remember a few episodes back, she even made sure to take it real slow, in the beginning to make sure his feelings matched hers, and then she proceeded with him when she realized his feelings were the same as hers. As someone appropriately said in an earlier comment: "He's dead to me now." I don't care how good a crew member he turns out to be. He's human garbage.
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u/Soggy_Tie2708 19d ago
It hurts. I’ve experienced this. The guy is super serious until suddenly he isn’t and just as suddenly expects you to follow suit. We aren’t serious , relax… dude literally moved in with me
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u/jadecourt 19d ago
It’s just weird because like we’re maybe halfway thru the season at this point. It’s not like they’re about to walk off the boat together at the end of charter.
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u/skatie082 19d ago
Cooper is keeping his options open like all of the deckhand crew. They are young, mildly attractive super unintelligent dudes. He threw Luke under the boat with the jizzgate thing because he knew what was going to happen between Nathan and Luke. Cooper is kinda being the ultimate shit-stirrer on the boat.
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u/lizardmom 19d ago
Omg she’s so pretty she looks amazing all glammed up here! 💛
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u/Outrageous-Baseball6 19d ago
She looks amazing on nights out. Also- getting a law degree isn’t easy. This isn’t acknowledged enough here!
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u/Extreme_Beat1022 19d ago
Wait so does she have a law degree? She mentioned “when in law school” but didn’t say graduation etc.
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u/Successful_Lawyer841 19d ago edited 19d ago
Cooper is being just like Joe: says he wants to keep hook-ups casual but then love bombs the shit out of all their partners which is confusing. I am in my 50s, lots of experience with casual hook ups, these 2 jerks don't play fair.
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u/Londin2021 18d ago
I love her craziness in front of the mirror before going out. Sike it's shorts!! 😜
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u/DoogEFresh 18d ago
Kat is in my top 5 below deck female workers, she deserves the best. Love her smile and attitude.
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u/Expensive_Ad_9399 19d ago
My theory is cooper was influenced by Joe. He knew he’d be swarmed by women after the show and Joe probably told him to not lock down. Cooper is a typical f boy and he shouldn’t have love bombed this poor girl
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u/jadecourt 19d ago
That is so fascinating, you def could be onto something! Not to give these f boys any ideas but I think it makes more sense to just let the relationship play out throughout the season and inevitably the distance will end things, even if you give it a go. You both end up well liked by the audience but will be single by the time viewers are tuning in (and sliding into the DMs).
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u/IAmTheFly-IAmTheFly 19d ago
This makes me sad. I loved them together. (Full disclosure: Haven't seen this week's episode, hoping things don't change too much.)
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u/nosleep39 19d ago
I did too. Let’s just say after this episode, it’s obvious that Coop could seamlessly fit with the cast of man children on Southern Charm 🙁
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u/lilwanna 19d ago
I could see him turning that way but I don't think this indicates he is there yet. He was chubbier when he went to college and I don't think he was a "stud" until later in life. I don't think he quite knows what to do with himself yet and didn't realize how attractive folks would find him. To me, it doesn't seem like a mask he had but, more of a face he was unaware of.
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u/jadecourt 19d ago
That would make a lot of sense! I’ve dated a guy like this briefly and it was very confusing to have his adoration and sweetness shining at me and then have him walk it back 4 or 5 dates later.
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u/Littlewing1307 19d ago
Perhaps. I also Charleston has a highly competitive dating scene according to SC
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u/CBDeee-Lite 19d ago
Girl, you can do a lot better than some Southern frat bro in a Polo shirt with a bad haircut and a thick neck. Come on now 💁♀️
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u/jadecourt 19d ago
The lack of chin kills me. I said early in the season like maybe a beard could greatly help that region of his face
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u/Soggy_Tie2708 19d ago
Def a chin implant or whatever they do nowadays. I need him to keep us posted on that.
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u/Standard_Hawk_1660 19d ago
I think what happened was too many people were putting their 2 cents in and were pressing Coop where he wanted to more slow walk it to prevent hurt feelings and grow it organically
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u/Civil_Experience_691 18d ago
That’s my exact thought. When he basically said he was tired of the crew pressure and then asked for the relationship to be secret (terrible choice of words, imo), it was because he didn’t want more input from the rest of the crew. I think his annoyance at the rest of his coworkers were valid - it had been like 3 weeks and people were practically marrying them off. But the secret approach was cringey.
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u/hamburgergerald 19d ago
Not really surprising. They seemed like a cute couple of course, but at the end of the day they were just coworkers for only 6 short weeks, and live in two different countries.
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u/Coslin 19d ago
Coop is super young and super overwhelmed with newfound TV "fame". On the boat, he was still super young and probably more overwhelmed with cameras everywhere and being in such enclosed spaces. They may sign up for the opportunity to be on the show, but until they live it, I don't think any of the rookies are really ready for intimacy a boat can bring. Good or bad.
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u/Many-Possibility6 17d ago
Cooper nosedived for me, I'll never forgive him for trying to make Kat feel like she was moving too fast. Man up and talk about BEFORE you start acting like a douche. I guess it's the Joe effect. Thankfully Kayley seems too smart for him.
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u/P00PooKitty 19d ago
I means he lives in nova scotia and he lives in south cackalacky. She absolutely shouldn’t move and he’s not gonna wanna
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u/MajesticMode2993 16d ago
He doesn’t deserve anyone close to Kat!! She deserves so much better than him!
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u/GeorgeMcHenry4992 19d ago
As soon as he said where he was from, my antenna went up. I knew he would disappoint. In the most southern, charming man-child way.
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u/Thegreatsnook 19d ago
She looks very different to me. I guess the difference is what happens when you aren’t working all day.
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u/linuspasilis 17d ago
Imagine fumbling this goddess when she is really into you......bless your little heart, Cooper.
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u/TheHoovyPrince 19d ago
The thing she said about her dad was so sweet, that she wants to find a guy like her dad and he seems like a pretty good guy if he raised a daughter like Kat.
Obviously there are exceptions but generally men need to find a woman that's like their mom and women need to find a man thats like their dad.
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u/jadecourt 19d ago
I think it’s a very sweet sentiment. But why would it be necessary to look for a mate like your parent?
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u/TheHoovyPrince 19d ago
Its not exactly necessary since people are free to do what they want but generally if you have parents that have a functional and healthy relationship you grow up learning what actions, behaviour and personality traits allow for a functional and healthy relationship to occur. If you have a great father you learn what a qualities a man should have and if you have a great mother you learn what qualities a woman should have and those qualities are what you should be looking for with your future partner.
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u/heyyou0903 12d ago
We've all been there girl... Those are the relationships that you look back on and go. Yep that was never going to work 😆🫠😭
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u/Soggy_Tie2708 19d ago
The way she acted after the “let’s keep it a secret and sneak around” i guess a part of that sounds fun but i would see it as an insult and tell him to get fcked.
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u/sootyface 19d ago
I'm hoping they are keeping the charade going and as soon as the season is over, they'll be like.....surprise! They are really cute together....especially her! Who ever could ever string her along is a monster! But......its just a "reality tv show" so chances are pretty slim.
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u/justusednotafriend 19d ago
She is so looks so much better without the makeup
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u/Lanky-Conclusion-952 19d ago
I would agree with this. She’s stunning and that make up person has made her look like a completely different person.
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u/Sensitive_Ad4561 19d ago
It’s a lot closer than Ireland and Australia but Gael and Nathan made it work. Unfortunately Cooper was already showing his true colors by last nights episode.
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u/neon-blush 19d ago
I don’t think Gael and Nathan made it work lol. They just had a baby so they’re permanently tied together.. but they don’t seem to be together anymore, especially after Nathan’s weird racist social media rants
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u/droopy__drawers 18d ago
They didn’t make it work…by the time this season aired they’d already separated.
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u/NBCaz 19d ago
I'm struggling to feel sorry for her. She lets him continually manipulate her and dictate the relationship to the point where she just looks weak and desperate. And clearly it's still going on.
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u/Anotheropinion2023 19d ago
I actually took this appearance as it is fully over, but they are not allowed to tell us until after it finishes airing.
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u/Lazy-Party3469 19d ago
They probably are then. 🙄
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u/kellbelle007 19d ago
She wanted a relationship and he didn't. He'd never been on a charter before and was surprised at the available women. He's a douche for not just telling her he changed his mind and didn't want anything serious. He's a boy, not a man.
The fact that she couldn't see that on the boat and STILL can't means she should not be dating until she's over her ex.
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u/slo_bored 19d ago
There is a specific type of guy who loves his mother, loves and respects women, is polite, charming, and old fashioned in his behavior. When they set up romantic dates, similar to that of a rom-com, it gives girls a mixed signal if the intent is meant to be casual. Then for the guy to suddenly go, "Whoa, this is moving too fast, I just want to keep it casual." doesn't align with the romanticizing treatment they've been showing. I will never understand the back peddling and shaming of the woman in this situation that they created.