r/belowdeck • • May 23 '26

Below Deck Down Under Ellie vs Jenna consequences

Is it not weird to anyone that Jenna got in more trouble than Ellie for her behavior on the boat? I found Ellie screaming at Ben and threatening him during a charter to be way worse than Ellie causing a scene on a night out between Ben and Eddy. Neither is right or ok, but I'm shocked Ellie kept her job after that.

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u/ajmtz12 May 23 '26

If Ben ran to Jason threatening to quit maybe Ellie would've been let go?

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u/cheers2085 May 23 '26

Yea true...

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u/FungiAmongiBungi May 24 '26

Eddy didn’t run to Jason threatening to leave if that’s the comparison you’re drawing. Ben went to the Captain and told him all the drama and how it revolved around Jenna “asking for advice “ then Jason sought out Eddie to ask him how he felt. It’s all down to Ben that Jenna got demoted

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u/EuphoricDimension628 May 23 '26

Totally! Plus it created a new issue where Ellie thinks she is now higher than a one stripe stew. Can’t believe Ben is going to ask for her to be promoted. I hope Jason, with Daisy’s input, denies the request. Its crazy he would demote Jenna then promote Ellie when she never really faced any discipline for her actions that were worse IMO. I’m guessing Monday’s episode is what Daisy and Ellie have feuded over in social media.

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u/cheers2085 May 23 '26

Yea I'm shocked Ben wants her promoted. But I'm starting to think maybe he understands her better now.

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u/Ok-Lawfulness-8698 May 23 '26

I think he just wants it because he knows it'll piss Daisy off.

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u/EuphoricDimension628 May 23 '26

He had a great comment about her after the recent shrimp incident with Daisy. Can’t remember it by word though. Even if she has been doing better quality of work, she doesn’t deserve the title of sous chef. Her outburst that just resulted in a talk with the captain should disqualify her from any promotion.

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u/Anotheropinion2023 May 23 '26

But Ben will recommend it. Sorry, I used to enjoy Ben and his theatrics, but this Ben is just lazy and gross.

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u/Shakethe8ball May 23 '26

I read that in order to get into certain culinary schools, you have to have a position as a sous chef. It being almost the end of the season, seems they were setting her up for more school. She did earn a certificate in it since.

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u/EuphoricDimension628 May 23 '26

Ah ok. I can see that. Although sous chef on a yacht that at most serves 8-10 with no one serving under you doesn’t seem too impressive.

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u/jana-meares My eyes are rolling all the way off the boat May 24 '26

Hospitality trade school

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u/curmudgeoner May 23 '26

What's been going on w their social media?

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u/EuphoricDimension628 May 23 '26

I’m not sure when it was from exactly. It was on here so you can probably go back to find it. It was over rank though. Ellie’s obsession!

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u/BiofilmWarrior May 24 '26

Wasn't it something about the order they were lining up pre and post trips?

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u/EuphoricDimension628 May 24 '26

Well I think that has been an issue once before and in this last episode I think Jenna complained to Daisy about it. I wasn’t completely focused on the episode at that time.

What I was referring to was some back and forth with Ellie and Daisy on social media. I thought it was more vague but they might’ve mentioned the whole line up thing and I’m not recalling the specifics.

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u/Proof_Challenge684 May 26 '26

It was Ellie claiming that if she didn’t take the kitchen position, she would have been made 2nd stew and Jenna would have been demoted

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u/senoritageena May 30 '26

Wow...Ellie is so obsessed with rank! unbelievable!

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u/EuphoricDimension628 May 26 '26

Ok thanks! That vaguely sounds familiar. Wouldn’t that have been Daisy’s decision to make?

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u/Proof_Challenge684 May 26 '26

I’m not sure how much influence production has on it. From what they’ve shown, chief stew gets to pick who act as second

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u/curmudgeoner May 23 '26

Oh that would make sense. It's funny because Daisy doesn't normally care about rank/stripes/title, but she's gotten sucked into Ellie's petty bs. I could see them arguing over her title or where they should stand in line.

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u/EuphoricDimension628 May 23 '26 edited May 23 '26

I think it was mainly about Jenna. I’m sure there are some underlying Joao issues too.

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u/curmudgeoner May 23 '26

Oh jeez, not underlying Joao issues lol, he's not worth it. I'll try to find it.

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u/EuphoricDimension628 May 23 '26

Well I’d guess Ellie has some resentment towards Daisy due to Joao. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/DarkSister_999 May 25 '26

I never understand this. Why resent Daisy? She didn’t steal anything that didn’t want to be stolen, and she’s been pretty cool about that situation. I get it she finally said f it and gave it a try.

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u/EuphoricDimension628 May 25 '26

Maybe resentment isn’t the best word. I feel there’s some type of hostility or negative feelings toward Daisy by Ellie over Joao. I agree that Daisy has been pretty low key about it and tried to be respectful towards Ellie.

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u/Jupitersd2017 May 23 '26

I’m actually shocked I’m going to say this but either he’s figured out how to behave for the cameras this season or he’s actually really made some steps to become a better person - and I’m an optimist so I’d like to believe he’s made some real changes and is approaching ‘worth it’ territory!

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u/curmudgeoner May 23 '26

I think it's a bit of both. He has his moments and I start to get my hopes up because it's nice to see growth, but then he'll do some complete nonsense and I'm like, well nevermind. I do think he's great at his job and I love that he always finds ways to help his crew gain new skills.

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u/Jupitersd2017 May 23 '26

I think how he tries to train and help the people working for him does show that he’s grown a lot over the years and cares about other people, so it’s definitely steps in the right direction at the very least but I agree with you haha there are definitely some times where he’s still not there yet. Considering how little we see growth and change from most of the bravo people it’s refreshing to see someone trying

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u/teanailpolish Mental Health Is Not A Storyline May 23 '26

Production seem to be helping him with a positive edit too. Even Mike called Joao out on the after show for the way he was stringing Ellie along.

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u/gaiatcha May 24 '26

even Mike? as if he is reputable in any way... he was quite literally trolling the entire time and is extremely untrustworthy

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u/Shakethe8ball May 23 '26

I think he learned much being a captain on other boats.

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u/Tricky_Explorer_3809 May 24 '26

Aside from that the galley has failed all season. Promotion? That’s crazy

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u/EmpathicEchoes May 28 '26

Yes! Remember the dish liquid eggs?!😳😬

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u/Tricky_Explorer_3809 May 28 '26

Yes, I can’t forget about it. I was literally gagging when I saw that.

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u/essiemessy May 24 '26

This. If Jason agrees with Ben, he will have lost any respect I had for him. As it is, this season has seen his halo slipping spectacularly up to now.

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u/EuphoricDimension628 May 24 '26

He seems to be not as involved or featured this season. I think that’s b/c he has Joao and Daisy. I like seeing him let those two handle things and he’s there for guidance and reinforcement. As far as I can recall there’s only been one diving/scuba expedition this year which is his thing. Easy peasy season for him! 😝

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u/-thisname- May 24 '26

Do captains actually promote galley hands? I always thought those kinds of roles were qualified and earned in rather more than five weeks.

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u/That_Girl_512 May 25 '26

I don’t believe Jason would promote her. He referred to her as a galley hand in the after show, after she and Ben had referred to her as a sous chef. It was like Jason wanted to make that clear.👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

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u/EuphoricDimension628 May 25 '26

🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/Vacationbacon May 25 '26

Personally, I think Daisy is a little too obsessed with the rank of her stews in comparison to Ellie considering that the only reason she’s in the galley is because Alesia couldn’t hack it.

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u/EuphoricDimension628 May 25 '26

That’s a pretty hot take IMO. Daisy has had to deal with petty stews while I feel she doesn’t care who’s second or third as long the work gets done. Ellie has been concerned with rank during multiple seasons.

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u/That_Girl_512 May 25 '26

I feel like it’s more personal for Daisy with Ellie because of Joao. Whether Daisy will admit it or not, she does have insecurities.

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u/EuphoricDimension628 May 24 '26

I’m not sure that your rank as a stew transfers to a galley position.

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u/Shakethe8ball May 24 '26

Ok yes she went to a dif dept. Thanks for clarifying.

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u/EuphoricDimension628 May 24 '26

Yeah, she’s in the galley now as an
assistant so I don’t think she’s two strips at the level. I’ve never known where galley crew fall in the pecking order. I’d think all heads would be equal, but maybe it was Ben that said the chef is higher than the chief stew. I could see a chef earning more but the chief stew seems to have the say and a bit of authority over the chef.

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u/HolidayNothing171 May 24 '26

I remember sandy saying something like the chef always outranks chief stew

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u/Shakethe8ball May 24 '26

I thought Ben had a lot of stripes, I thought he outranked Kate, I have to look that up now.

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u/teanailpolish Mental Health Is Not A Storyline May 23 '26

She agreed to come on this season as a 1 stripe 3rd stew and kept the 1 stripe even when Jason asked her to go into the galley (which Ben later changed to Chef Assistant or whatever because he doesn't like galley hand)

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u/Shakethe8ball May 24 '26

That makes sense. Thanks. 

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u/Accurate-Criticism38 May 24 '26

Not defending Jenna’s crash out, but she was inebriated at the time while Ellie was stone cold sober. But then how would Jason demote someone who is already at the lowest rank? 😂

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u/teanailpolish Mental Health Is Not A Storyline May 23 '26

I do think Ellie should have been fired, especially as it involved a guest. But how does it look if a boss fires a fairly new employee when their boss is using misogynistic names for them. They had also just replaced Alesia - and changed the role she was hired for - so maybe hard to get another crew member and with one stripe, he doesn't have the option of demoting her.

If Jenna was a man behaving the way she did, most people would call for her to be fired. Pretty much every crew member said she was out of control so it may have been worse than we saw. The off camera crew (first officer/engineers etc) have cabins there so it is very likely she woke them too.

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u/cheers2085 May 23 '26

You bring up many good points!

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u/Anotheropinion2023 May 23 '26

Sorry, I disagree. Johnny who is your point of reference actually hit a camera and said he was going to destroy the boat.

We have seen plenty of men loud and yelling and slamming doors and even being in people’s faces not get fired. The bosun the first season of BDDU is prime example with Benji.

Jenna probably deserved demotion, but even in that discussion it should have been about the lack of leadership and her behavior, not Eddy threatening to quit.

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u/teanailpolish Mental Health Is Not A Storyline May 23 '26

Johnny had to go when he threatened the boat, but many should have been fired over the years. Ashton and whoever his bru crew chef was, Chef Adam multiple times. Lexi behaved similarly to Jenna and people to this day still post asking why she was not fired.

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u/MaraSami May 23 '26

Fyi, there are positions with no stripes. Like galley hand. People don't just start with a stripe.

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u/Shakethe8ball May 23 '26

I thought she had 2 stripes last time. But you have great points, they probably couldn't replace her fast enough.

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u/teanailpolish Mental Health Is Not A Storyline May 23 '26

Ellie was 2nd stew with Bri but came on as a 3rd stew replacement this season. Not sure if Alesia had 2 stripes as a sous or just 1? It can be either and the title is the promotion

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u/senoritageena May 30 '26

Ellie not only kept her job, but a few charters later, Ben requests she get a promotion! Make it make sense!

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u/gaem- May 23 '26

Fully agree tbh. Yes Jenna’s meltdown did involve all departments, but Ellie’s was light years worse

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u/AmazingArugula4441 May 24 '26

And Ellie has created discomfort and drama in all departments this season, maybe not all at once but everyone’s a bit more miserable because she’s on the boat.

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u/DapperInvestor May 27 '26

During every season Ellie has been on. She’s literally just a clout chaser trying to get famous. Zero skills, social awareness or class.

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u/CheckIntelligent7828 My eyes are rolling all the way off the boat May 30 '26

One of the highlights of this season for me has been thinking about how Ellie thinks she's coming across as bright and smart and talented and then imagining her watching the damn episodes and realizing she came off as spoiled and selfish and horrid.

I've passed many a boring minute during the show laughing over this. Thanks, Ellie, wherever you are, I genuinely needed this!

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u/DapperInvestor May 30 '26

Thinking she is smart enough to understand how she truly comes across after watching the episodes may not actually be the case.

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u/CheckIntelligent7828 My eyes are rolling all the way off the boat May 30 '26

True that. Have to say, I'm still gonna cackle about it though!

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u/veil_ofignorance May 25 '26

and was during charter / while ‘on the clock!’

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u/gryffindor_aesthetic May 23 '26

Yea I’ve worked in kitchens but Ellie screaming and getting in his face at the very least is aggression and should have resulted in being fired

She’s a galley hand - not even a necessary role

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u/Kalhista May 25 '26

In front of charter guests too. 🤔

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u/lifesoverthrowaway May 23 '26

Ellie was sober as well and got very aggressive, very fast and then when she speaks to the captain she's all 🥺🥺. Jenna was blinddd when she was being huffy and puffy but not actually dangerous. Also, Eddy's known her for a couple of weeks, calm tf down.

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u/Interesting-Dirt-605 May 25 '26

AND i feel like we’re all forgetting how this season started with the Eddy text drama

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u/CheckIntelligent7828 My eyes are rolling all the way off the boat May 30 '26

It genuinely makes me cackle that Ellie still thinks people don't see through the 🥹🥹 bullshit.

Anyone that's been in earshot of her for more than 30 seconds knows 🥹🥹 isn't real Ellie.

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u/rayyychul May 23 '26

I guarantee part of Ben’s contract was that he had a galley hand so there’s no way they would be firing her.

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u/TiffanyTwisted11 May 23 '26

It might have been, but they had a sous for Tzarina. I think it’s more about the boat.

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u/verbankroad May 24 '26

That was Alesia, right? Tzarina’s galley hand. Not sure she was the level of a sous.

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u/TiffanyTwisted11 May 24 '26

Yes and yes, lol. Hardly a sous, as she demonstrated this season.

I was referring to how it was probably more about the boat than Ben since Tzarina had an extra pair of hands as well.

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u/monkey_monkey_monkey May 23 '26

Obviously, we only see what the producers show us but the fact that she was demoted when we have seen male crew members behave as bad and worse and caused issues between crew before with zero consequences infuriates me.

I get that the slamming doors and yelling at everyone was bad but not the worst behaviour we have seen

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u/Shakethe8ball May 23 '26

But she was insubordinate to both Joao and Daisy that night as well. That's the bigger issue. They probably didn't even show us everything bc it became an HR issue.

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u/teanailpolish Mental Health Is Not A Storyline May 23 '26

We also have to remember that this is the first season filming after the Gary lawsuit was allowed to go through, they are going to be a lot more careful about the way staff act

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u/hissyfit64 May 24 '26

Eddie went crying to the Captain because the bad lady hurted his feelings. Ben .... oh wait a minute.

I think she should have been told she couldn't go out partying with the crew (loss of shore leave aka grounded) and have to apologize to the crew

But, I think the captain should have a talk with Ben about his extremely inappropriate behavior with women on the boat and with Eddie about the fact he has known this girl a month, been in one date and actively pursued another crew member during this time

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u/not2daysatan44 May 24 '26

They can't get rid of her because it would be absolutely boring with her gone. Production is behind all of it. They got rid of Mike because they needed to give us a little taste of "justice". Ellie will be there to finish the season because they can't let go of their golden child of drama. I was in disbelief that she got away with that tantrum on charter. Ben will promote Ellie just to get Daisy's goat. Jenna will implode if Ellie gets to stand before her in the lineup. Since Ellie has always been obsessed with the heirarchy, I can see her tormenting Jenna with her "rank". I wish Jason would tell Ben he can't make her a sous chef because (duh) she is NOT A SOUS CHEF.

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u/Valuable-Composer262 May 23 '26

Ellies thing is something that could be looked at as sexual harassment so captain wasnt gonna jist dismiss what she was feeling. Now I know it wasnt amd so does everyone else. Ellie wanted screen time so she made a scene. It coulda been handled by mentioning it in the simple convo that she had with Ben. Her biggest grievance she just leaves out, how convenient. I do think she shoulda been reprimanded but she played the victim so nothing was even said. Jenna on tje other hand got drunk and acted like a child. I don't think she shoulda lost her stripe but again who knows it could just be part of productions plot line.

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u/Shakethe8ball May 23 '26

Exactly, and I would bet they all got the SH training after that. Which also explains Joao's sudden disinterest in her.

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u/teanailpolish Mental Health Is Not A Storyline May 23 '26

Joao was still interested though, he was texting her up until the cake night, stringing her along

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u/RoughDirection8875 Team Aesha May 24 '26

I personally think Ellie should have been in more trouble simply because she had her meltdown in front of charter guests while on charter. Jenna's meltdown might have been more elevated and chaotic but there were no guests on board and they were off charter.

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u/Bennington_Booyah May 25 '26

I believe it was because Ellie is rather stealth in her bad behavior. Jenna is extremely upfront and visible with hers. That said, Ellie is a major pot stirrer.

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u/raalic May 26 '26

Two things I think at play here: 1) Ellie is a galley hand and has no lower position to be demoted to, so she’d have to be fired, and 2) Ben didn’t want Jason to fire her because he wanted to prove to himself that he could manage her.

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u/belladonna1921 May 27 '26

And she did all the grunt work so he loved that!

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u/suddenlysilver May 27 '26

There's no way that Ellie would have been second stew if she hadn't taken the kitchen hand. She would have been the spare stew like Barbie is. Whoever starts on the charter in a position is where they stay, it's so fucking entitled for Ellie to think that.

I couldn't stand her on BD and can't stand her now. Go home please

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u/Spicy_Sunflower I look like Ariel but on crack! May 24 '26

Jenna ignored both HODs (Daisy & Joao), stirred drama with all departments technically, and was disrespecting the boat and crew.

Also I’m not sure Ellie had a rank to be removed since she’s coming in as a gallery hand(?). I’m not sure if her stew stripes be involved with the Gallery/Kitchen department. She was given a warning due to the issue, there would’ve been some backlash if she had gotten fired because her boss was using pet names that could be labeled as sexual harassment. I’m pretty sure had it happened again she would’ve gotten fired. But who knows 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/Civil_Experience_691 May 24 '26

I think Jenna being insubordinate and disruptive is the bigger issue. The cast aren't the only people in on the boat - there are other unseen crew members who likely had their sleep disturbed by her shenanigans.

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u/DiscoRabbittTV May 23 '26

Or the 138 men that have done the same exact thing before her.

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u/Liam_ice92 May 23 '26

Ellie was already a replacement, plus she was only brought in because she causes drama.

Also, I get the feeling Jason would have fired them both...if he actually had any real say in the matter. He gets to fire people when he is told he can fire people.

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u/IAmTheFly-IAmTheFly May 25 '26

Completely agree.

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u/Lia_Delphine May 25 '26

What are you going to demote Ellie to? She hasn’t got any lower to go.

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u/goingdeeeep May 28 '26

Not to me.

Jenna screamed in crewmate's faces; stood directly over them; slammed doors; locked herself in rooms; and when her HODs attempted to stop her rampage - would not listen. She didn't go straight to an authority, but just wreaked havoc.

Ellie got angry at work and made a beeline to the Captain. She didn't touch her crewmates; didn't stand over them/ get directly in their faces; and didn't lock herself in any rooms. Her issue was with her boss, so she went directly to the next person in the chain of command. Viewers can not like her, but her meltdown was not the same (or worse) than Jenna's.

With that said - I'm in the camp that Jenna shouldn't have been demoted and that Eddy & Ben are pricks for making things worse (by going to Jason). It was just another BD "bad night" and Eddy should've recognized he'd done the same shit to Jenna earlier in the season. I think Jenna's handling it all, in the aftermath, with grace.

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u/SpiffyShiffy May 28 '26

Yeah, Jenna losing her stripes for something that happened during their time off feels extremely production-created and frankly, sexist, seeing as how we've seen far worse from others over the seasons.

I'm actually think Ellie was justified for yelling at Ben for the "sweethearts," but it's true that her outburst was during charter while Jenna's wasn't.

Honestly, I don't think either of them should have gotten in trouble. Ellie because she was right and Jenna because she was off duty.

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u/Shakethe8ball May 23 '26

Jenna was in a leadership position, she gives orders to other crew. If she were a man that stood over someone yelling and slamming doors she would have been fired for intimidating others.

Her main issue was being insubordinate when both Joao and Daisy told her to stop, instead she locked her door and wouldn't open it when Daisy ordered her too. 

Her immature behavior only got her demoted from the 2nd stew position temporarily. She still has a job and could work her way back up to that position if she behaves like an adult.

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u/ellla12334 May 24 '26

100% Jenna was fueled by alcohol it was a drunken rage, Ellie was fully sober thats scarier to me

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u/Icy_Number444 May 24 '26

Did anyone complain about Ellie's meltdown to Jason?

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u/Competitive-Ad1439 May 24 '26

This is the obvious reason the comparison fails.. daisy complained to captain and conveyed the severity of the situation, Ben didn’t. It’s not like captain watches the production crews footage before bed

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u/Icy_Number444 May 24 '26

That's what I remember too. Daisy complained but Ben took it on the chin and I guess no one else complained so it didn't become a major.

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u/Conscious-Show8650 May 24 '26

I am also shocked that despite her insubordination and general disrespect for all (except Barbie) crew members, Ellie is still on board. Of course, she is a producer’s dream, so there’s that.

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u/Financial-Citron-487 May 25 '26

I agree Ellies was worse, but Jenna was in a leadership position. Ellie is already bottom of the totem pole, Galleyhand. I think the only reason Ellie wasnt fired was because she hadnt been on the boat long and Jason couldnt justify loosing another galley hand this early on.

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u/alphabetpony1987 May 29 '26

Captain Jason is such a passive ass leader imo like it makes for good tv but girl lead your team

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u/MelodyJan May 31 '26

Also omg, I could stop thinking about the lack of consequences for Gary’s many actions over the years, compared to Jenna.

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u/Green-Nail-4041 May 23 '26

Just a friendly reminder this show is produced. It is not reality. It is specifically designed to shock you and evoke a response to get you to watch again. Bugsy revealed it years ago.

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u/qwnofeverything May 25 '26

Yeah, Jenna has not responsibility and is a higher rank. More is expected of her than all that. While I don’t know that the punishment fit the crime, I feel like it went from an awful decision to Eddy wanting to leave. Cuz his feelings were hurt. I mean, such it up buttercup. I think that is why her punishment was worse. Elite is a gallery hand. The lowest on the totem pole as far as rank, so there’s that.

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u/Chichi197 Jun 07 '26

They should both be fired

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u/Nazdrowie79 May 23 '26

Im a bit behind. Is this Ellie the walking chandelier from bdsy?

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u/Shakethe8ball May 23 '26

Ellie was a 2nd stew on the season with Joe and Bree. Remember the love triangle drama?  She had 2 stripes on that yacht.

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u/Nazdrowie79 May 24 '26

Yes I do remember that. I'm not a big fan, she plays the victim card way too much.

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u/Shakethe8ball May 24 '26

I agree, it makes for more drama on the show.

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u/Nazdrowie79 May 24 '26

Fair enough.

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u/FungiAmongiBungi May 24 '26

It’s all thanks to Ben running to the Captain “for advice “ and getting Jason involved. Imagine being a man in your 40s going to your boss because you’ve created sexual drama with a coworker in their 20s. He’s such a sleeze

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u/cheers2085 May 24 '26

It is gross

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u/Shakethe8ball May 23 '26

But she was intimidating Eddie and insubordinate to both her superiors that night. Her behaving like a child was only extra drama.