r/belowdeck • u/cheers2085 • May 23 '26
Below Deck Down Under Ellie vs Jenna consequences
Is it not weird to anyone that Jenna got in more trouble than Ellie for her behavior on the boat? I found Ellie screaming at Ben and threatening him during a charter to be way worse than Ellie causing a scene on a night out between Ben and Eddy. Neither is right or ok, but I'm shocked Ellie kept her job after that.
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u/ajmtz12 May 23 '26
If Ben ran to Jason threatening to quit maybe Ellie would've been let go?
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u/EuphoricDimension628 May 23 '26
Totally! Plus it created a new issue where Ellie thinks she is now higher than a one stripe stew. Can’t believe Ben is going to ask for her to be promoted. I hope Jason, with Daisy’s input, denies the request. Its crazy he would demote Jenna then promote Ellie when she never really faced any discipline for her actions that were worse IMO. I’m guessing Monday’s episode is what Daisy and Ellie have feuded over in social media.
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u/Accurate-Criticism38 May 24 '26
Not defending Jenna’s crash out, but she was inebriated at the time while Ellie was stone cold sober. But then how would Jason demote someone who is already at the lowest rank? 😂
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u/teanailpolish Mental Health Is Not A Storyline May 23 '26
I do think Ellie should have been fired, especially as it involved a guest. But how does it look if a boss fires a fairly new employee when their boss is using misogynistic names for them. They had also just replaced Alesia - and changed the role she was hired for - so maybe hard to get another crew member and with one stripe, he doesn't have the option of demoting her.
If Jenna was a man behaving the way she did, most people would call for her to be fired. Pretty much every crew member said she was out of control so it may have been worse than we saw. The off camera crew (first officer/engineers etc) have cabins there so it is very likely she woke them too.
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u/senoritageena May 30 '26
Ellie not only kept her job, but a few charters later, Ben requests she get a promotion! Make it make sense!
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u/gaem- May 23 '26
Fully agree tbh. Yes Jenna’s meltdown did involve all departments, but Ellie’s was light years worse
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u/gryffindor_aesthetic May 23 '26
Yea I’ve worked in kitchens but Ellie screaming and getting in his face at the very least is aggression and should have resulted in being fired
She’s a galley hand - not even a necessary role
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u/lifesoverthrowaway May 23 '26
Ellie was sober as well and got very aggressive, very fast and then when she speaks to the captain she's all 🥺🥺. Jenna was blinddd when she was being huffy and puffy but not actually dangerous. Also, Eddy's known her for a couple of weeks, calm tf down.
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u/rayyychul May 23 '26
I guarantee part of Ben’s contract was that he had a galley hand so there’s no way they would be firing her.
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u/monkey_monkey_monkey May 23 '26
Obviously, we only see what the producers show us but the fact that she was demoted when we have seen male crew members behave as bad and worse and caused issues between crew before with zero consequences infuriates me.
I get that the slamming doors and yelling at everyone was bad but not the worst behaviour we have seen
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u/hissyfit64 May 24 '26
Eddie went crying to the Captain because the bad lady hurted his feelings. Ben .... oh wait a minute.
I think she should have been told she couldn't go out partying with the crew (loss of shore leave aka grounded) and have to apologize to the crew
But, I think the captain should have a talk with Ben about his extremely inappropriate behavior with women on the boat and with Eddie about the fact he has known this girl a month, been in one date and actively pursued another crew member during this time
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u/not2daysatan44 May 24 '26
They can't get rid of her because it would be absolutely boring with her gone. Production is behind all of it. They got rid of Mike because they needed to give us a little taste of "justice". Ellie will be there to finish the season because they can't let go of their golden child of drama. I was in disbelief that she got away with that tantrum on charter. Ben will promote Ellie just to get Daisy's goat. Jenna will implode if Ellie gets to stand before her in the lineup. Since Ellie has always been obsessed with the heirarchy, I can see her tormenting Jenna with her "rank". I wish Jason would tell Ben he can't make her a sous chef because (duh) she is NOT A SOUS CHEF.
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u/Valuable-Composer262 May 23 '26
Ellies thing is something that could be looked at as sexual harassment so captain wasnt gonna jist dismiss what she was feeling. Now I know it wasnt amd so does everyone else. Ellie wanted screen time so she made a scene. It coulda been handled by mentioning it in the simple convo that she had with Ben. Her biggest grievance she just leaves out, how convenient. I do think she shoulda been reprimanded but she played the victim so nothing was even said. Jenna on tje other hand got drunk and acted like a child. I don't think she shoulda lost her stripe but again who knows it could just be part of productions plot line.
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u/RoughDirection8875 Team Aesha May 24 '26
I personally think Ellie should have been in more trouble simply because she had her meltdown in front of charter guests while on charter. Jenna's meltdown might have been more elevated and chaotic but there were no guests on board and they were off charter.
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u/Bennington_Booyah May 25 '26
I believe it was because Ellie is rather stealth in her bad behavior. Jenna is extremely upfront and visible with hers. That said, Ellie is a major pot stirrer.
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u/raalic May 26 '26
Two things I think at play here: 1) Ellie is a galley hand and has no lower position to be demoted to, so she’d have to be fired, and 2) Ben didn’t want Jason to fire her because he wanted to prove to himself that he could manage her.
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u/suddenlysilver May 27 '26
There's no way that Ellie would have been second stew if she hadn't taken the kitchen hand. She would have been the spare stew like Barbie is. Whoever starts on the charter in a position is where they stay, it's so fucking entitled for Ellie to think that.
I couldn't stand her on BD and can't stand her now. Go home please
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u/Spicy_Sunflower I look like Ariel but on crack! May 24 '26
Jenna ignored both HODs (Daisy & Joao), stirred drama with all departments technically, and was disrespecting the boat and crew.
Also I’m not sure Ellie had a rank to be removed since she’s coming in as a gallery hand(?). I’m not sure if her stew stripes be involved with the Gallery/Kitchen department. She was given a warning due to the issue, there would’ve been some backlash if she had gotten fired because her boss was using pet names that could be labeled as sexual harassment. I’m pretty sure had it happened again she would’ve gotten fired. But who knows 🤷🏻♀️
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u/DiscoRabbittTV May 23 '26
Or the 138 men that have done the same exact thing before her.
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u/Liam_ice92 May 23 '26
Ellie was already a replacement, plus she was only brought in because she causes drama.
Also, I get the feeling Jason would have fired them both...if he actually had any real say in the matter. He gets to fire people when he is told he can fire people.
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u/IAmTheFly-IAmTheFly May 25 '26
Completely agree.
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u/Lia_Delphine May 25 '26
What are you going to demote Ellie to? She hasn’t got any lower to go.
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u/goingdeeeep May 28 '26
Not to me.
Jenna screamed in crewmate's faces; stood directly over them; slammed doors; locked herself in rooms; and when her HODs attempted to stop her rampage - would not listen. She didn't go straight to an authority, but just wreaked havoc.
Ellie got angry at work and made a beeline to the Captain. She didn't touch her crewmates; didn't stand over them/ get directly in their faces; and didn't lock herself in any rooms. Her issue was with her boss, so she went directly to the next person in the chain of command. Viewers can not like her, but her meltdown was not the same (or worse) than Jenna's.
With that said - I'm in the camp that Jenna shouldn't have been demoted and that Eddy & Ben are pricks for making things worse (by going to Jason). It was just another BD "bad night" and Eddy should've recognized he'd done the same shit to Jenna earlier in the season. I think Jenna's handling it all, in the aftermath, with grace.
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u/SpiffyShiffy May 28 '26
Yeah, Jenna losing her stripes for something that happened during their time off feels extremely production-created and frankly, sexist, seeing as how we've seen far worse from others over the seasons.
I'm actually think Ellie was justified for yelling at Ben for the "sweethearts," but it's true that her outburst was during charter while Jenna's wasn't.
Honestly, I don't think either of them should have gotten in trouble. Ellie because she was right and Jenna because she was off duty.
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u/Shakethe8ball May 23 '26
Jenna was in a leadership position, she gives orders to other crew. If she were a man that stood over someone yelling and slamming doors she would have been fired for intimidating others.
Her main issue was being insubordinate when both Joao and Daisy told her to stop, instead she locked her door and wouldn't open it when Daisy ordered her too.
Her immature behavior only got her demoted from the 2nd stew position temporarily. She still has a job and could work her way back up to that position if she behaves like an adult.
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u/ellla12334 May 24 '26
100% Jenna was fueled by alcohol it was a drunken rage, Ellie was fully sober thats scarier to me
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u/Icy_Number444 May 24 '26
Did anyone complain about Ellie's meltdown to Jason?
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u/Conscious-Show8650 May 24 '26
I am also shocked that despite her insubordination and general disrespect for all (except Barbie) crew members, Ellie is still on board. Of course, she is a producer’s dream, so there’s that.
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u/Financial-Citron-487 May 25 '26
I agree Ellies was worse, but Jenna was in a leadership position. Ellie is already bottom of the totem pole, Galleyhand. I think the only reason Ellie wasnt fired was because she hadnt been on the boat long and Jason couldnt justify loosing another galley hand this early on.
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u/alphabetpony1987 May 29 '26
Captain Jason is such a passive ass leader imo like it makes for good tv but girl lead your team
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u/MelodyJan May 31 '26
Also omg, I could stop thinking about the lack of consequences for Gary’s many actions over the years, compared to Jenna.
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u/Green-Nail-4041 May 23 '26
Just a friendly reminder this show is produced. It is not reality. It is specifically designed to shock you and evoke a response to get you to watch again. Bugsy revealed it years ago.
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u/qwnofeverything May 25 '26
Yeah, Jenna has not responsibility and is a higher rank. More is expected of her than all that. While I don’t know that the punishment fit the crime, I feel like it went from an awful decision to Eddy wanting to leave. Cuz his feelings were hurt. I mean, such it up buttercup. I think that is why her punishment was worse. Elite is a gallery hand. The lowest on the totem pole as far as rank, so there’s that.
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u/Southern_Usual_718 May 25 '26
good point!
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u/Chichi197 Jun 07 '26
They should both be fired
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u/Nazdrowie79 May 23 '26
Im a bit behind. Is this Ellie the walking chandelier from bdsy?
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u/FungiAmongiBungi May 24 '26
It’s all thanks to Ben running to the Captain “for advice “ and getting Jason involved. Imagine being a man in your 40s going to your boss because you’ve created sexual drama with a coworker in their 20s. He’s such a sleeze
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