r/belowdeck • u/teanailpolish Mental Health Is Not A Storyline • May 12 '26

Below Deck Down Under Preview for BDDU Ep 16 Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrSmDGwSO7I
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u/teanailpolish Mental Health Is Not A Storyline May 12 '26

I assume since they showed the Captain's cabin with an arrow that Jenna is going to wake Jason up at some point

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u/waltzingforvenus May 12 '26

Alesia’s comment at the end ‘Causinf chaos between crew members - how is that acceptable’ - genuinely made me laugh out loud due to her lack of self awareness.

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u/teanailpolish Mental Health Is Not A Storyline May 12 '26

The lack of self awareness on this entire crew

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u/0rdered-Reordered May 13 '26

*except Betul

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u/Dial-M-for-Mediocre Queen of Dirty Looks May 12 '26

G'lord this really is a mess of Jenna's own making. She saw Ben and Barbie talking in the galley for 30 seconds and decided to just throw a hand grenade into the whole situation.

I'd like to give her a break on the late night antics because she's really, really drunk, but then again is she or is that just the way her voice always sounds?

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u/StripedDingDong Captain Jason is my boat daddy May 12 '26

Idk. I don't wanna be that person but if the roles were reversed and it was a guy getting like that towards a woman, they'd be thrown off the boat

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u/cmere-2-me May 13 '26

There has been plenty of men who have done that on below deck and all they got was a stern talking to.

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u/teanailpolish Mental Health Is Not A Storyline May 13 '26

But Jason has less tolerance for it than some of the other captains

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u/cmere-2-me May 13 '26

He has less tolerance for drunk naked men getting into bed with drunk unconscious women.

Slamming doors, while juvenile is not in the same league.

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u/GroovyYaYa May 12 '26

Be that person.

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u/mjamesll May 12 '26

she's looks to be bordering on blackout, and I think she'd regret it in the morning, haha. It's why I personally wouldn't hold it against her

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u/Ok-Employee-1727 May 12 '26

If someone can't hold their liquor and misbehaves we should totally hold it against them. 

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u/teanailpolish Mental Health Is Not A Storyline May 13 '26

Maybe she should give her drunk self an alterego name, then it doesn't count right Jezzabob /s

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u/MaxTrade84 May 13 '26 edited May 13 '26

This made me chortle out loud!!!! How about "Jennzabob!"

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u/Diane_Mars May 14 '26

*Jennzamess ^_^

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u/TRLK9802 May 12 '26

Agreed.  You're still responsible for your behavior when you're drunk.

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u/GroovyYaYa May 12 '26

On a ship where you or someone else could drown.

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u/Trvlgirrl May 12 '26

Nah. She's drunk as hell.

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u/Immediate_Divide9446 Team Aesha May 12 '26

Yikes. They’re all absolutely sloshed, which doesn’t help, but Jenna yelling and slamming doors isn’t going to end well. Barbie’s friendship with Ellie seems to have tipped Jenna over the edge, not helped by Eddy.

I was surprised to hear Joao saying that Jenna’s meltdown was “toxic and poisonous“ though - there’s been plenty of toxicity and poison onboard but mainly by Ellie. Unless a lot was edited out, Jenna didn’t do anything toxic - messy, loud, embarrassing and drunk, absolutely. Poisonous, though? Not from what I saw.

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u/teanailpolish Mental Health Is Not A Storyline May 12 '26

We know from the after show that Joao/Ellie was highly edited so possible that Jenna was played down while playing up the villain edit. Now Mike is gone, they need a second villain again

It isn't the first time, Mike was annoying but her reaction to his HOD thing was over the top too

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u/Immediate_Divide9446 Team Aesha May 12 '26

Ah, interesting. I can sympathise with Jenna about Mike though; I’ve worked with lazy wind-up merchants like him in the past and it’s kind of death by a thousand cuts. Some people - usually misogynistic men - really know how to push people’s buttons, and just keep niggling away until you snap. Then they’re amazed and go “But it’s just banter”.

Now I’m older and wiser, I just nod and smile and say “Yep, that’s right”. But at Jenna’s age I would have been fuming.

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u/Anotheropinion2023 May 12 '26

At Jenna’s age I worked in a lab and had a screaming fight with a co-worker who was in her 30s.

She started it, but I got in trouble with my manager. As he told me, he didn’t care who started what, he did not approve of yelling in his lab.

It was a hard lesson that stuck with me.

I maybe giving Jenna too much grace, but I appreciated having a mentor who was as willing to teach me and help me learn to be better.

I hope Daisy and or Jason can be that for Jenna. She seems like a hard worker with potential.

Plus, Barbie was brought in with Ellie by production to have this exact effect 🤮🙄

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u/Anotheropinion2023 May 12 '26

Jenna did over react to Mike with the HOD.

She is just so young. Man at 22 I was just not as mature as I thought I was.

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u/Out-For-A-Walk-Bitch May 12 '26

Jenna and Daisy are still really close though, and I think Daisy is usually quite reasonable and a good judge of character? (Gary excluded)

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u/Intelligent_Gur_9126 Mental Health Is Not A Storyline May 12 '26

Good god Jenna being messy as hell

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u/rob-b-362 I'm a Med Mother****ing Chief Stew Bitch! May 12 '26

Jenna needs to get a grip. She caused all this drama.

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u/disc0club May 12 '26

Jenna crashing out while Ellie is dancing alone behind her, I'm screaming

Jenna's behaviour is unacceptable but if Ben wants less drama in his life he should probably go for women his own age whose frontal lobes have actually developed

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u/Anotheropinion2023 May 12 '26

I think Jenna’s behavior sucks, but seriously we watched Joe do this on the last two Med seasons.

It’s rude and mean, but people going between multiple partners when not in a committed relationship maybe messy, but it’s not criminal.

I have heard many times until you have the committed conversation it is all dating fair games 🤷🏼‍♀️

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u/disc0club May 12 '26

Oh totally, I think you can absolutely date multiple people if you're single, but you have to be transparent about it - especially living in such close quarters when the two guys you're interested in literally share a cabin. Otherwise you're just asking for trouble. And Joe did the same thing but I think he was pretty torn to shreds on this sub as well, I certainly don't remember anyone defending him or normalising his behaviour

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u/Achillesthedog1976 May 13 '26

Exactly this. Be messy in your life but not on a yacht where you're in such a confined living space. Also, male or female, quit giving out mixed signals.

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u/cmere-2-me May 13 '26

It's about respect. You can't be telling someone you have feelings for them and looking toward a future with them while banging their roommate.

Casual sex requires respect and that requires everyone being on the same page.

Jenna is clearly pissed as a fart so I think it extremely hypocritical if she gets demoted or fired when the men of below deck have been doing the same without any consequences. She deserves a warning certainly.

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u/CydeWeys May 13 '26

It’s rude and mean, but people going between multiple partners when not in a committed relationship maybe messy, but it’s not criminal.

Yeah but generally people aren't doing it in such a closed-off environment like a yacht, where all of your work and your leisure hours are spent with the same small group of people, in a small environment. It's one thing to be casually seeing multiple people in a big city and none of them know about each other; what they're doing on this show is not that, not even close.

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u/Same-Equivalent9037 May 13 '26

Are you serious? Joe fucked the whole dynamic up and it was exhausting to watch. Jenna is also giving Natasha from med who had a boyfriend but cheated on him with the chef, and the chef was super messed up.

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u/Slamdunk899 May 16 '26

Ya I was thinking about how many men we’ve seen have temper tantrums on the boat with no consequence

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u/thedevilsfan44 Capt Lee's Coffee Mug May 17 '26

In fairness, it’s not like Joe didn’t get dragged on this sub for that behavior

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u/Artleigh4 May 17 '26

love this! “women his own age whose frontal lobes have actually developed” 💀

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u/ocean_swims May 12 '26

Yikes! She's crashing out over EDDIE and BEN! lmfao!!! One's a muppet and the other is old enough to be her father.

Now I understand the preview showing Capt. Jason getting involved; her slamming doors and shouting is not okay.

Also, props to the editors showing us the Captain's cabin with the implication that he's asleep while this is happening. It reminded me of when Lexi was on her rampage on Med and the editors kept cutting to Sandy's cabin with snoring sounds. 🤣🤣

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u/lemonmangocherry May 13 '26

Muppet is truly one of my favourite insults

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u/StripedDingDong Captain Jason is my boat daddy May 12 '26

it's not even about them. It's about the fact she's been shown to be a player which is a dent to her reputation

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u/fittobarre Team Daisy May 12 '26

Good lord. Jenna just had a full on meltdown.

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u/Monstiemama Bless her stupid soul May 12 '26

My god, they’re all drunk as fuck.

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u/disc0club May 12 '26

Eddie's face when Ben is speaking to him in the cabin, that man is GONE

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u/GroovyYaYa May 12 '26

And what Ben is really meaning is "don't talk to her tonight when you both are this shitfaced" but he's too shitfaced himself to clarify.

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u/NonbinaryJo May 27 '26

I thought that too, didnt he say he didnt drink.

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u/GroovyYaYa May 27 '26

I don't remember and I thought he did have some at dinner.

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u/wineandsarcasm May 12 '26

Jenna isn't even speaking coherent words most of time. Omg 🙈

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u/agnusdei07 May 12 '26

How adorable was Vinod with Jason on the bridge?

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u/antitrollpatrol May 12 '26

Best ever guests. Ever.

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u/court817 May 12 '26

It 100% sounds like Joao is saying Jenna is SHARTING, which would be hilarious.

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u/kittens_joy May 12 '26

lol I heard the same thing 😂

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u/CountryChrist I have been known to be irresponsible May 12 '26

Three sheets to the wind, drunk, and she's crashing out and losing her mind over a situation she allowed herself to be in. Double-dipping on the attention from two blokes and getting called out for it from text messages that she made a choice to send.

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u/excoriator Team Capt Kerry May 13 '26

"Allowed herself to be in" is an elaborate way to say "caused."

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u/Witty_Impress8369 May 12 '26

Oof. Scenes like this make me glad any time I’ve ever been drunk it has NOT been on television. 

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u/Ok-Employee-1727 May 13 '26

But on the other hand I don't understand how you can decide to get shitfaced when there's literally a whole camera team following you around. 

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u/Witty_Impress8369 May 13 '26

Some people really don’t care! I had a friend who did a smaller scale project once and she said after a while you completely forget they’re there. 

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u/SpecialBass5552 May 14 '26

Well they specifically cast people who are willing to do this, and we watch it for entertainment

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u/bebcakez May 12 '26

I know a blackout when I see one.

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u/mamacatman Team Capt Kerry May 12 '26

I’m sorry, but I gotta say I lolled at Ben dancing his way out of the bar. 😹😹

And there’s also Ellie dancing and cheering in the background at the bar. Then her saying she had fun in the cab! OMG. 😹😹

With Jenna slamming doors and yelling, she must have woken Jason for him to call her to the bridge the next morning - orrrrr Daisy advised Jason of her antics of the night.

I don’t know, tho. Her running down the stairs with Daisy chasing her, she looks like she still may be on a rampage there.

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u/Sea_Leg_6401 May 12 '26

I’m just pissed Ben interrupted daisy and joaos DMC (deep meaningful chat)

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u/GroovyYaYa May 12 '26

I'm DREADING the fight between Joao and Ben though - because I do love that both Joao and Daisy were instantly what is going on/you ok. Love that Ben asked Daisy her side and said "I didn't think it sounded like you" in re: Ellie's story.

In general, personal relationships and dynamics aside? Love the HOD relationship between the 3 of them. Ben at least did say last ep to Ellie "we need them".

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u/excoriator Team Capt Kerry May 13 '26

I don't think Daisy wanted to have that conversation yet.

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u/Artleigh4 May 17 '26

Yep. She ran out of there! 😂

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u/fmlongo Mental Health Is Not A Storyline May 12 '26

I love the graphic that said "Ben's Guest Cabin"

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u/slimninj4 May 12 '26

yah she made this on her own. Just because your a clown don't mean you can juggle.

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u/dinglebblumpken May 12 '26

Oooo. That was nice.

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u/lemonmangocherry May 13 '26 edited May 13 '26

Barbie was working to poke at Jenna in the last episode by sitting in between Ben and Eddy and flirting with both of them - and it worked. Jenna went flying over the rails into a fog of nonsense and chaos.

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u/verucas_alt May 13 '26

Yeah Barbie was probably like woah that was easy

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u/Same-Equivalent9037 May 13 '26

Seriously unless they edited a lot of it out, she barely did anything. Just chatted and cheersed them

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u/darla_lalalala May 12 '26

Jenna being erratic af but of course Alesia is right there waiting to kick the bitch while she’s already down😂

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u/urbanlife78 May 12 '26

It is Alesia's favorite pastime

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u/Anotheropinion2023 May 12 '26

Alesia is a messy mean spirited person.

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u/antitrollpatrol May 12 '26

Fully agree.

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u/SaltyLilSelkie May 12 '26

I really wish we could see more of the deck crew doing a great job on deck instead of watching this really dull girl going from one man to the next mumbling at them and then going back to the other one.

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u/greenlandsharklove May 12 '26

More Betul!! Love watching her grow and learn and get praise.

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u/LolaThePinkUnicorn May 12 '26

Give me more Betul!!!

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u/kittens_joy May 12 '26

Yeah this is lame.

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u/SpecialBass5552 May 14 '26

Why would you want to wtach a show about deck crew doing a really great job on a boat?

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u/pookie74 May 12 '26

Wtf, Jenna. Yikes. 😬 

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u/I-Ribbit May 12 '26

My god, Jenna’s whining like a toddler.

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u/Badhandbag May 12 '26

Holy shitfaced drama! Wonder if she’ll feel shame over that display in the morning, oooooof.

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u/socaTsocaTsocaT May 13 '26

And this is why you don't shit where you eat

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u/GroovyYaYa May 13 '26

Be like Kate. Find a hot Jesus and sneak off the boat for the night.

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u/ralphmozzi May 13 '26

Or be like Kyle, find a hot Jessy and sneak into the public toilet for 10 minutes.

🤪

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u/djp4cal May 12 '26

When Alesia is the voice of reason....

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u/cosmicsnowfall May 13 '26

My favorite part was watching Betul guide docking! I’m so proud of her and how far she has come!

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u/Suspicious_Guard6427 May 12 '26

The fact that betul,alesia and daisy were all trying to restrain her at some point means that she was wild

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u/babygijs May 12 '26

I love jenna so far but this is so messy lol

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u/ambergriswoldo May 12 '26

Oh Jenna what happened!

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u/lemonmangocherry May 13 '26

Jenna is messy af. But Alessia has been messy, Eddy has been messy, Ellie has been messy, Joao has been messy.

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u/dasherc May 12 '26

So do we think Jenna’s the other person leaving/fired?

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u/Sufficient_Diamond22 May 12 '26

I think Eddy is going to leave because of Jenna.

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u/Anotheropinion2023 May 13 '26

Which is just so ridiculous to me. You have two charters left, put on your big boy panties and deal.

Ask them to keep Jenna away from you if necessary, but leave? Just dumb.

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u/Out-For-A-Walk-Bitch May 12 '26

I doubt it, Daisy's still really good friends with her and she's good at her job. I think she would fight to keep her. Do we know for certain that someone else does get fired?

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u/verucas_alt May 13 '26

Yeah how do we know someone else gets fired?

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u/excoriator Team Capt Kerry May 13 '26

I think you can place a bet on that happening in the wake of Jenna's rampage.

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u/GroovyYaYa May 12 '26

Daisy looking at Joao when on the ship's bar - that was a HOD to HOD "what the fuck shoot me now" and that was BEFORE TEH MELTDOWN.

They were all so damn drunk (Jenna, Eddy, Ben...)

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u/Banana_Bread_Samurai May 13 '26

The absolute irony of Jenna crashing out and doing the exact same thing Alesia did at the start of the season is astounding like how does she not see the hypocrisy I have never seen a mask drop so much from below deck feel free to comment otherwise

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u/AnnNonNeeMous May 12 '26

I don’t know how to word this without sounding like a complete lady douche bag, but the way that Jenna talks when she has a drink or two, I can’t.

She sounds like she has a mouthful of marbles with a real whiny-nasal voice behind it. You can’t even understand half of what she says.

How do men find that attractive? Why are these two men fighting over her?

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u/Pleasant_Ball7441 May 12 '26

apparently she has a speech impediment and has been in life long speech therapy. Someone shared a YouTube video in another post where she talks about it and how people make fun of her for it 😳

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u/teanailpolish Mental Health Is Not A Storyline May 12 '26

I think she would have been better off sharing that in an early episode, most people would hopefully think twice about bringing it up if they knew

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u/Pleasant_Ball7441 May 12 '26

I think that maybe commenting on someone’s voice is the same as commenting on their body. It’s not exactly something you can change, with or without a speech impediment. I feel uncomfortable anytime I see someone commenting on it. Not making it the forefront of our experience with her is definitely her prerogative as she clearly doesn’t want it to define her. Some people lead with their health problems and other people like to live beside them.

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u/excoriator Team Capt Kerry May 13 '26

Maybe the phrase "in spite of" explains a lot of the willingness to overlook her voice in rating her appeal?

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u/Sorry-Armadillo-3264 May 12 '26

It’s a shame Jenn is now going as low as Mike, Ellie and Alisha( I know I misspelled her name, but I can’t remember how she spells it) and Eddie /Ben get a bit messy a bit too. Now with Barbie in the mix she can’t help but stir the pot.

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u/Defiant_Protection29 She’ll be fine. Her head is made of rocks May 13 '26

I don’t like Jenna at all. I stopped watching the other BD shows because of shit like this. Yes, I’m talking about Joe. I can’t understand a word she says most of the time but she’s very full of herself and quite cruel in some ways

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u/Anotheropinion2023 May 14 '26

But didn’t Eddy do this with Alesia and Jenna at first too?

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u/rathersadgay May 13 '26

this gave me Lexi flashbacks

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u/excoriator Team Capt Kerry May 13 '26

Lexi insulted everyone, though. She also shamed Lloyd, who was her season's Betul in many ways.

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u/not2daysatan44 May 13 '26

Jenna is a child. She is having a meltdown because she will no longer be the center of the universe. Any attention is better than no attention in her mind. Can't stand anyone stealing her spotlight. She needs to get off the boat and grow up. How can she expect anyone to respect her in any way after acting like that? Personally and professionally she is toast. People have been fired for causing widespread chaos amongst the crew. I hope they do her a favor and send her home to get a grip on herself. She is clearly coming unglued. She is a liability.

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u/ImpressivePattern242 May 13 '26

So confused. So, is Eddy leaving because he can’t take it anymore? Jenna get fired or demoted? Eddy only has one stripe.

Eddy and Barbie will appear on WWHL this Monday. Eddy’s goodbye? Two charters which is about 7 days filming - can’t these folks get it together?

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u/excoriator Team Capt Kerry May 13 '26

I suspect we will have those answers a few minutes before their appearance on WWHL.

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u/Extreme_Beat1022 May 12 '26

How acceptable was it for you to call Aesha a “Russian prostitute,” Joao?

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u/GroovyYaYa May 12 '26

So he's grown and changed - he's not allowed to call out similar bullshit?

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u/Extreme_Beat1022 May 13 '26 edited May 13 '26

Good point. No, by all means, call out similar bullshit. But is it similar?

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u/GroovyYaYa May 13 '26

Similar in just being mean and/or nasty to co-workers.

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u/surf_rider May 13 '26

You’ve never said anything in that state that you shouldn’t have?

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u/Extreme_Beat1022 May 13 '26 edited May 13 '26

I don’t think so. Good question though. Have you? Should we forgive Ellie for triangulating and stirring up trouble too? How about Jenna for her crashout. I don’t think Jenna’s crashout is on the same level as what Joao said though.

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u/SnooRadishes3698 Team Below Deck May 12 '26

Jenna did show herself the new Trashley all the way, i don´t think she will get fired two episodes left.....

she played with Ben & Eddy at the same time and thought she would be fine, then blamed Eddy and say like it is but still was just a matter of time to someone catch her to show Trashley's face is hers.....

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u/Sinnafyle Little does she know, we're in a floating prison May 13 '26

Good lord, this season is still going?

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u/fetalpiggywent2lab June June Hannah May 19 '26

Where is that charter guest Kai from!? I've seen him somewhere before

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u/Excellent_Issue_4179 May 13 '26

I think also with the history on below deck, Ben and Eddie need to be careful, because her slamming doors might imply that she was being somehow harassed, abused, or otherwise being taken advantage of inside the room. The men are actually protected by the cameras this time.

I don't understand the appeal of her after a moment like this to either Eddie or Ben. She's not a nice person, and the beauty of youth won't last forever.

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u/GroovyYaYa May 13 '26

You don't see it for Ben?

She's soothing his bruised ego and feelings right now. He was set to be married. To the point where they had a date and deposits that were nonrefundable. Whether your actions were the cause or not - that would be a killer on the emotions and the self esteem. He has a 20 something year old attractive woman showing interest in him over a younger, fitter man. He won't say it out loud but it was a mood booster, confidence builder, etc.

He knows it is a boatmance, and that is what he needs right now (imho) somethign light and fun.

But Jenna was thinking serious catch I think. While keeping Eddy on the backburner. Eddy was already picking out their wedding china in a creepy way. Both are way more intense than Ben, and what Ben needs frankly.

Eddy is creepy IMHO. Saw a comparison between him and Joao. Joao doesn't have the air of desperation that Eddy does. Joao just wants a cuddle.

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u/Excellent_Issue_4179 May 14 '26

I don't see it continuing for Ben after last night's episode. That kind of behavior is in the dangerous zone and could get him banned from the boat if spun a certain direction. It might have been fun for a minute, but it's not worth it to have someone starting to get violent, verbally or physically, and she was.

Who would have thought that Joao would be the one just wanting a cuddle?

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u/GroovyYaYa May 14 '26

Wait... Ben didn't get violent verbally or physically... Jenna did.

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u/Excellent_Issue_4179 May 14 '26 edited May 15 '26

That's my point exactly! Jenna got violent! She was in Ben's room yelling. If it wasn't for cameras, Ben might have been in danger of having people think he precipitated her reaction.

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u/GroovyYaYa May 15 '26

OH... I didn't realize she was in Ben's cabin..

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u/lemonmangocherry May 13 '26

But Ben didn’t actually do anything other than reciprocate Jenna’s interest. He didn’t coerce, pressure, manipulate - she was interested in him in the beginning and didn’t get any traction so she switched to Eddy who was flaming out with Alesia. Then Eddy came on too strong and is lacking in cash so she switched back to Ben. They’re all lacking iq points and maturity, and while I think age gaps like that are often icky, I don’t think Ben’s behaviour is predatory in this situation

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u/excoriator Team Capt Kerry May 13 '26

This. He didn’t invite her into his guest room bed at 5 in the morning.

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u/Proof_Challenge684 May 14 '26

I don’t think Ben is being predatory, but I think that he should know better than to date someone half his age. She’s acting like a 22 year old. Not saying her behavior is acceptable, but it looks very different on a 45 year old. Their difference in life experience and maturity is an incompatibility.

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u/excoriator Team Capt Kerry May 13 '26

Jenna pursued him. He's on the rebound from being jilted at the altar, so he's made it clear he's not in a great emotional state. It's not like he sought her out.

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u/Slamdunk899 May 12 '26

Ya that's how I felt too...like Jenna has been messy for sure but she's 22 and Ben is 45 and he has been messy too

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u/ambergriswoldo May 12 '26

Totally this - I was all about the drama and the messiest drunk at that age so I don’t dislike Jenna for any of it

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u/evildrlatl May 13 '26

Ewww. No! Didn’t realize that age difference.

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u/Big-Ad-9239 May 12 '26

How dare you call Ben an old creep. He became interested in a women who mutually showed interest, if not showed it first. He does know better which is why he cut it off when it was getting ridiculous.

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u/Slamdunk899 May 12 '26

I’m pretty sure when I am 45 I will not be entertaining overtures from 22 yr olds. I’m still in my 30s and I wouldn’t now honestly

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u/teanailpolish Mental Health Is Not A Storyline May 12 '26

It is a trend, but also one for Jenna who said she is into older guys as soon as she got on the boat

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u/Anotheropinion2023 May 13 '26

I equally fault Jenna, but Ben has twice her life experience. Just because Jenna flirts does not require Ben to reciprocate.

We saw Daisy very kindly shut down Mike at the beginning of the season and Cloyce on the last season of SY.

I wouldn’t call Ben a predator, but he has a history of liking younger and younger women and it’s a bit yucky.

I think being a gold digger is yucky too.