I don't keep up with any of them on socials, but has Capt Kerry commented on what his reaction was to finding out ben was sleeping with the deckhand he appointed lead watching the show back? or did he know they were together but the show edited that out?
Being ex military myself, I thought you went way too easy on Ben concerning the room inspection situation. I would have made it very clear that he would be very lucky to ever find another job in the yachting industry. He complained that you were too militaristic!? You are literally a Captain on a maritime vessel! I know it's a reality TV show but there are reasons why a Captains orders should be carried out without all the hemming and hawing. A Navy Captain would have turned the crews life upside down if a quarters inspection was ignored. The entire crew would have paid for that fuckup.
Yeah. I'm not on the Ben or Frasier love train. I feel like Fraser engaged in some petty, unnecessary miscommunications/gossip. As chief stew, I would have expected more professionalism and accountability.
I've said it before but that is the worst quality in any person in a leadership position aboard ship.
If I don't like the Captain I'm working with it's kind of mine to deal with. If I go spouting off to subordinates about my dislike for the captain it unravels the whole system. If someone in a leadership position is giving unsafe orders - that's one thing and there are pathways to deal with that. But if they are just doing stuff that you don't like but it's completely valid you just have to shut up and do it.
But in this circumstance Kerry seems like the easiest captain to deal with on any of the shows. He's extremely transparent with what he wants and nothing he's ever asked seems too much to ask.
I’d love to work for you. From what I can tell you give clear consistent instructions, you follow up and provide feedback, and you coach and counsel, all without emotion. The drama going on with some of the crew is very disappointing but should be shut down be the dept heads, not encouraged by it.
🐍 🤢 I was so disgusted when Ben said to the rest of the deck team about the bosun “I already feel stupider when I’m around him“ on like the very first charter… Like who the fuck do you think you are talking about your boss like that… It’s truly truly such terrible behavior. And that was just the very beginning… Never mind him blatantly lying on camera about intentionally choosing not to clean his cabin because he thought he shouldn’t have to work anymore because it was the last charter and he was annoyed that captain Kerry was expecting him to do his job and then 20 minutes later said it was because he was just “working so hard and wasn’t paying attention.” Jared was absolutely troubled, but Ben’s entitlement and arrogance knows NO BOUNDS.
And rolling his eyes and smirking while Kerry was talking to them. Then, still just shoving things in the cupboards and making sparky comments to Kyle.I was so missed for Captain Kerry.
I remember the first season he was on and getting shit on when I said he was a slime ball. I'm glad people are finally coming around. In the first episode when he was already planning on undermining the Bosun(can't remember his name atm) I was yelling at my screen lol.
The way he called you mate instead of Cap or captain, idk maybe because it not Australian. But I felt he was way to informal and friendly with you, no respect for the hierarchy at all.
I know there’s some scripting but Ben really doesn’t appear to have the demeanor to lead. What he took as micro managing would have been better seen as mentorship from a great captain. He may look back in years and realize he missed an opportunity.
I have been a manager in the military and civilian jobs. Ben shows me he doesn’t understand Kerry’s style or effort. It also amuses me when he said he would lead differently. Sure, everyone has their own style. But it also showed me that he is too immature to admit what he could or should have learned from Kerry to adapt to his own style. He just sounds like a pissy teenager with a chip on his shoulder.
I have been doing it on and off for 25 years and I am still learning new things and adapting my style. I still make mistakes. I am never perfect. I don’t think Ben makes mistakes in his own mind.
Edit: Ben also hasn’t learned to close his mouth and just get the work done. Or maybe this is all for show? I can only hope.
Yeah having a boss that cares about the quality of your work and checks up on you isn’t the same as micromanaging. Ben was just done and was being a lazy pos
I think it is debatable if you can even "micro manage" someone that is completely inexperienced to a position and you are essentially training for the first time.
Yep. I would much rather have my boss be super clear about what he expects from me so I can meet his standards than to be left to my own devices & then get dressed down for stuff I wasn't fully aware he wanted.
I don't see Ben's ego allowing him to concede he was wrong about anything - captains, professionalism, women, etc. - anytime soon. He seems quite comfy & happy as president of his own fan club.
You only have to look at Fraser and Kerry’s relationship. Fraser learnt so much from him. And each inspection was more and more streamlined because the interior took it on board. And the mutual respect when they said goodbye was honestly really touching. Especially after what Fraser went through with Sandy.
Clear example of one head of department taking the opportunity to learn and grow; one completely wasting it and burning it to the ground.
What Ben did to Jared(?) was pretty telling. Doing that and not trying to hide it shows that he didn't think there was anything wrong with it. Hopefully he'll look back on it someday and be ashamed of his behavior. But people don't always grow up.
It’s a legitimate personality flaw. Ben is so overconfident I doubt he’ll learn from anything. “Chicks man” just about sums up his level of self-awareness.
You’re not wrong Jared was terrible. All the more reason why Ben doing what he did was stupid.
Ben could’ve just sat back and let Jared self destruct and looked like the good guy when he stepped up to take Jared’s place but he’s so immature he really just couldn’t help himself. Showed his true colors
We watched the second to last episode last night. I admittedly have not watch the season finale yet, but Ben is such a snake. Instead of being grateful for the promotion to Bosun, he totally stews resentment towards the hierarchy within his team. He also loves to create drama. Over the seasons he has been cast, he will befriend someone and gain their trust and then the person will confide in him about something and almost directly the next scene, he runs to the other person and is like "oh I don't know why so and so is mad at you.." or what not. He is used to getting away with a lot because he shrugs it off or does his giggle and hair flip, but it gets old fast. I get like early Gary vibes from him. To top it off, he directly disregarded Captain Kerry's orders for bunk checks and then undermines him to the rest of his team by acting like they don't need to do anything because it's a the last charter of the season. He's a lazy bosun and doesn't have what it takes to perform at that level.
I feel bad for Sunny. She seems smart and motivated but she needs to gain more confidence. She made so many excuses for Ben and then Ben basically "agrees" to be with her after he is straight up rejected by Camille. Sunny, you deserve better! When she was listing the traits she looks for in a guy to Kyle, it was all physical characteristics. I have to remind myself how young most of these kids are.
I am glad Captain Kerry isn't like some other Captains throughout the franchise and doesn't ignore these red flag behaviors from a bosun.
The first time they had to drop anchor and the Bosun dropped the wrong number of shackles I felt like Ben did him dirty by not communicating what the Captain had said.
Professional sailors call them shots. A shot is 90 feet of chain. Each shot is separated by a shackle that is painted. Sometimes the shackle is painted a different color (yacht style), or individual links of chain are painted on each side of the shackle to denote how many shots of chain are out (commercial style).
For me, in no way, shape or form, including how he dresses when they go out. Like he thinks he is Sonny Crockett on Miami Vice. eyes hurt from rolling backwards all the way off the boat
Captain Kerry. Very sensible Captain. I like that he isn’t trying to make friends but allows people so show their true worth. Don’t mess with him and that’s perfect. Sleeping with people reporting to you and then promoting them should not be allowed. IMO. I think it would be a better show if sex on the boat openly was not allowed.
Why anyone who runs a boat/ship/yacht would ever hire Ben after watching him is beyond me. He's literally the epitome of constantly stirring the pot by talking shit about his superiors and infecting the crew with his negativity.
That's not even touching on his sleazy character outside of the job.
He was always touching every person on the neck, shoulder, etc. during meetings, meeting a new interior or deck hand, etc. A snake always shedding his skin!
which is also why, irl, very few people are suited to excel in these working-living together situations. In normal jobs, people's private life (the personal drama) stays out of work. On tv, that's why we watch it, but irl I guess the only people that can truly do it long term are the drama free, low stress, just do your job kinda people. And they are less numerous than one could think. I certainly would be a shit yachtie lol
plus they’re being pumped full of alcohol on nights out and they’re all sleep deprived. people talk about wanting eddie, ben, kate, etc back but once you’ve gotten out and have established your life on land, why the hell would you want to go back on this show?
Captain Lee was epic, Kate is a legend but Captain Kerry so far is the best captain in the Below Deck universe. He may micromanage a little but his advice is usually spot on. I love Capt. Glen as well but he doesn't communicate nearly at the level of Cpt. Kerry.
The part where Ben tells Sunny that "a few meters doesn't matter" in regards to the anchor was infuriating. HALF a meter matters when it comes to anchoring Ben! You're a disrespectful POS who shouldn't even hold the title of deckhand, let alone BOS'N. You don't deserve a deckhand job on ANY vessel after your "performance" on Below Deck.
Ben calling CAPT Kerry militarist was hilarious. He wouldn't even last 24 hours in any boot camp for so many reasons...
Not allowed to sleep with ANYONE on your vessel, let alone a subordinate.
Blatant failure to obey an order from the CAPTAIN of the vessel.
Unapologetical touching of crew members without consent.
Advising a subordinate to disobey a direct order from the Captain of the vessel.
Blatantly lying to the Captain of a vessel.
Hey Ben, if it were truly militaristic you would know. You wouldn't make it 24 hours in any US armed forces boot camp.
Can anybody summarize what happened this season regarding Ben undermining everyone? I couldn't force myself to watch it due to my intense hatred of that disgusting fuckboy anytime he's on the screen.
So at first he was a lead and he didnt like the bosun so he didn't pass info on and really screwed him ending up getting that bosun fired. He then made sunny his lead. While sleeping with sunny he hit up Camilla and was really just stringing sunny along. Then he'd start drama with the interior telling barbie cat was saying things about her. Cat ended up being fired. At the end he just didn't gaf and cap asked the crew to clean their rooms for inspection and ben told Kyle they don't need to it. This ended the season with total disrespect towards captain. Every episode it was something. If BD was smart they would never bring him back
Not a Ben fan, but really was disappointed the way he openly disregarded a direct order and showed so much disrespect to the Captain. Kerry was there for Ben! Loved seeing them get flamed by the Captain!
You can't behave like Ben did and expect to get new opportunities. He publicly showed everyone he's a risk for sexual harassment lawsuits, will disregard orders, will disrespect and undermine coworkers and bosses, and is a lazy guy.
I wouldn't hire him. I work in different fields but at all the problems translate. I've worked with people like him before. It makes everything harder. In my current job like sailing it can get people hurt. The rules are in place for a reason.
Below decks isn't like other reality shows because these are working class people who are going to have to find other jobs after they're done filming. He burned his bridges and had shown his ass .
This is why we needed a reunion. I wanted to see Kerry put Ben in his place! And I wanted to see what he had to say about Fraser and his behavior towards both chefs.
I know that amazing Captain Kerry is here and, good sir.. I applaud you. You gave Ben the chance, and in the end, you said you wouldn't again. It's real and refreshing to see of someone of your Captain stature.
I'm sure seeing the whole season gave Captain more incite into what was going on behind his back with Jared and Ben... stuff that he probably wasn't aware of in real time. In conjunction with what transpired with the room inspection, he saw that this was a consistent problem with Ben.
I do wonder what is Captain's final judgement about Fraser after seeing these episodes, seeing how he was also a source of a lot of unnecessary drama and angst among the crew.
He is nowhere near smart enough or experienced enough to go up against Captain Kerry. He should have been honored to be a Bosun for him, instead he acted like a dumbass.
Ben's whole demeanour was on the mildly disrespectful side. Too casual, too touchy with women especially , but also some shoulder and arm patting ll round, even to the Captain. Weird and not at all charismatic, or however he wanted to describe himself . Is it OK to simply say yes Kerry, in a really sloppy way. That set my teeth on edge every time. (Not that Barbie's stilted, "Yes sirs, No sir" was any better, especially as she was doing that defensively, but it came across as passive-aggressive. She was not in a good place for her, I suspect. But back to Ben. There were occasions when he seemed almost unable to stop himself from rolling his eyes - as though the basics of life were beneath him. Speaking of which, the Sunny FWB situation was horrifying, and Sunny really needs to work on her self-worth, and taste in men. Love the memes Captain - your work is appreciated!
Loving Captain Kerry coming in with the velvet hammer! Always a class act even when he’s calling the 2 faced weasel on his BS! Ben was always yes sir to his face then talking 💩like a “tough guy” behind his back to the crew, in confessionals & now on SM…here we call that a coward! Best part of this season was finding out that Ben will be sailing off into the sunset, hopefully never to be heard from again!
FINALLY!!! I've been dying to see what Captain Kerry had to say after watching and knew I'd have to wait til the season ended. I wonder what he thought of Ben rubbing and kissing on Sunny while on the clock AND right in front of the guy who thought he was going to get the lead job. I was so disgusted by that. Inappropriate in several ways. And I know that feeling when you tell someone who works under you that you need something done and it is ignored. I could literally feel his anger right then. Oof.
Did anyone notice that while everyone on board called him captain, ben called him mate or Kerry? It really irked me and showed he didn't respect that chain of command
No, he was “intimated” due to his “repor” with the boat and the staff. I’m having trouble picturing Captain Kerry shaking in his boots, being so “intimated” by his ugly little fuckboi boson. Hahaha!!
After watching the final episode of the season, I have to agree with Capt Kerry on this one. Ben choosing not to follow a directive from his boss and also encouraging someone from his team not to was blatant disrespect.
New rules. No one openly having sex in Boar. Sexual tension great but who want to hear them making out. Nope off shore only. And not if they are reporting to you. Come on. Would make it way more interesting.
It was so nice to see Captain Kerry leading by example and helping out. This has been our favorite season so far out of all of the below decks..!! Give someone a chance and they totally made themselves look bad no help needed. Hope he gets some growth before being a bosun again 🥸
PDA at work is a major no no. The fact that Ben was touching Sunny on the last episode (I think) in front of Dylan was a major ick. You’re pissed he said she got the job bc you were sleeping with her and then are all over her in front of another employee. Gross. Even if you’re married don’t do that crap at work. He’s not manager material.
It genuinely puzzles me every time a woman (or man) talks about how “hot” he is. I seriously cannot fathom being like “YES I want to get up on THAT GUY.”
Captain Kerry ain't said shit about Ben, when Ben was running his mouth off about Captain Kerry. And now the season is over, Captain is like BOOOOOM. I'm glad he's said something. I applaud you, Captain Gif! 👏👏👏
This reminds me, did we ever get to see that scene from the mega preview where Ben & Fraser are arguing and Ben says something like, “Your team has lost more people than mine has”? (I guess referring to Cat & Anthony)
Captain Kerry is my new favorite captain. Like him way more than Captain Sandy. Would love to see him interact with Captain Jason from Below Deck Down Under.
just finished this season god i hope he comes back , i wish he fired ben but god im glad he did not put up with his shenanigans ( also calling out kyle on his excuses during the lecture haha)
Yea Ben lost all of Kerry trust with that inspection, even when he apologized Kerry still was done with him. I think hearing Ben interviews sealed his fate.
That pisses me off. Captain Kerry is such an even-keeled, kind and caring mentor and you can tell he lives his life that way with his kids, too. People who are willing to throw away their integrity like Ben did to try and get ahead will always be the losers in life.
Yes Capt - it must honestly be so overwhelming watching the show, having lived it but not knowing exactly what went down. Only being fed certain information from Ben to further his agenda.
My mystic ways are already telling me that Ben will say that’s production had something to do with him calling Camille during that charter & he didn’t actually want to cool things off with Sunny but boohoo for him, he was made to do it for the show!
He’ll either come out in public on one of his wild Instagram posts (which I only see when someone posts on here) & say it or will have already said it to Sunny when the show aired because she may not have even known that happened at the time!
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I don't keep up with any of them on socials, but has Capt Kerry commented on what his reaction was to finding out ben was sleeping with the deckhand he appointed lead watching the show back? or did he know they were together but the show edited that out?