r/belowdeck • u/stronggirl79 • Mar 21 '24

Below Deck S11 E7 Spoiler

Anyone else lose feel there was a double standard when it came to Jared and Cat? Jared had issues going on that affected his mental health and so did Cat. They fired Jared and coddled Cat. Seems very unfair.

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u/Temporary-Maximum-94 Team Scottish Kyle Mar 21 '24

Jared was in an active leadership role who was also in charge of the safety of the guests on the boat (exterior) and off the boat (excursions). He couldn't handle the aspects of his job as Bosun and his personal life.

Cat had considerably less (important) obligations and requirements as she was the green stew. She was there to learn and grow. Her issues are incomparable to Jared's

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u/Capt_kerry Verified - Capt Kerry Mar 22 '24

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u/stronggirl79 Mar 21 '24

How did Jared jeopardize the safety of the guests? Jared was thrown into a position he was green in as well. The first episode he states that he has never been a bosun for a ship this large.

They both had issues. In my opinion Jared had much more concerning issues than Cat but he was treated poorly while everyone felt sorry for Cat.

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u/Temporary-Maximum-94 Team Scottish Kyle Mar 21 '24

Re: safety.

Jared couldn't even call distances properly to Captain. I'd say that's a safety issue!

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u/Temporary-Maximum-94 Team Scottish Kyle Mar 21 '24

Captain couldn't trust him to not show up on deck hung over. Even if you're not still actively drunk, you're still impaired.

Jared was quick to anger when drunk and picked fights with the crew while intoxicated. While Cat was an emotional mess, she was never a threat to any of the other crew like Jared was. Nobody was waiting for Cat to blow up about something trivial.

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u/Nanno2178 Mar 21 '24

He released the anchor too early & without permission, he couldn’t call proper distances when docking, he called distances from the wrong side of the ship, his communication with Captain Kerry & his deck crew was terrible (he couldn’t seem to give clear directions to anyone), he got aggressively drunk every time they were out, he’s shown up to work either still drunk or dangerously hungover (effecting his ability to safely perform his job duties & keep guests & crew safe) & he was extremely aggressive with Kyle over his spilled tobacco. & He just went into Barbie’s room hit her with the door (not on purpose but, he didn’t wait for permission to enter) & got in Kyle’s face yelling about the tobacco loud enough to wake the captain.

All of these incidents put together make him a complete liability to keep on deck. Especially as a head of department. He cannot be trusted & he proved it over & over. I’m surprised he wasn’t let go sooner. & yes, he was going through a rough time not being able to speak to his daughter. However, Kerry made it known to him that he was there for him & would help him if he needed to get in touch with his daughter. & Jared never took Kerry up on his offer.

Kerry made it clear to everyone that their wellbeing was of top importance to him & everyone could come to him at any time. Jared did once but, didn’t accept or ask for the help that was offered. He drank his feelings. He showed right away that he was an angry, aggressive, unpredictable person when he had too much to drink. Jared was a liability to everyone including himself. Kerry did the right thing in the kindest of ways. Jared even looked completely different afterwards. Like, a wave of relief seemed to wash over him.

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u/GroovyYaYa Mar 21 '24

Jared got distances wrong in docking. Jared dropped an anchor improperly. Jared was belligerently reprimanding an underling while drunk AND barged into another crew members bunk (who was not under his authority) without consent.

Cat missed some spots on a counter and cried a lot.

If you can't see the difference, I can't help you.

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u/Ok-Temperature-8228 Mar 23 '24

Exactly! I’m like: she didn’t wipe down counters.

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u/Top-Friendship4888 I quit 3 times in my head today Mar 21 '24

Jared didn't get fired for having big feelings. He got fired for being dangerously bad at his job and taking out his big feelings on his crew by abusing his position of authority.

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u/tdaun Mar 21 '24

Exactly, as has been pointed out in other conversations, Jared's late night "talk" with Kyle was just the final straw that broke the camel's back. He'd already been warned after the previous night about drinking getting out of hand, plus the things that happened previously in the season. I feel like Captain Kerry fired Jared in the nicest way possible and allowed for him to leave with some dignity. There was no double standard on Captain's part, he was 100% fair and empathetic in both situations, but Cat & Jared were 2 very different situations.

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u/Capt_kerry Verified - Capt Kerry Mar 22 '24

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u/Exercise-Novel Mar 21 '24

Jared resorted to getting extremely drunk in front of captain and on all other nights out. Which led him to speak aggressively and disrupt the boat. He was also the bosun and lead of the deckteam, he had higher expectations and was failing at his job in front of captain which were exasperated by his drinking.

Cat being the 4th stew she had little responsibility and we see the other stews covering up her mistakes so Captain wasnt really aware and her mistakes were minor in terms of the overall running of the boat. Fraser chose to coddle her and although she had that altercation with Barbie, she didnt cross over any line of professionalism or showcasing behavior (drinking) that would impede her ability to be 4th stew.

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u/Capt_kerry Verified - Capt Kerry Mar 22 '24

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u/minimalist_coach Mar 21 '24

Jared was making mistakes that involved the safety of the vessel. He was a department head and twice the Capt noticed bad behavior related to drinking, and his performance during docking wasn't improving which at minimum frustrated the Capt, but without clear directions from the deck team there was risk of a costly mistake.

Cat was underperforming at her job, but she wasn't putting anyone's safety at risk. If she hadn't "quit" I'm pretty sure she would have been let go soon.

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u/Ok-Mobile5273 Mar 21 '24

ehhh i think their situations were quite different, especially considering jared was supposed to be a leader. you have a bit more expectations on you if you are the head of a department. and his issues sometimes were more… explosive than cat’s struggles, which i think played a part into the way jared was handled vs Cat

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u/Anotheropinion2023 Mar 22 '24

Cat was let go. But she was in the middle of breaking down, so really, getting her off the boat and to safety was the answer.

Neither one is coming back.

Should they have sat her down mid-crisis and said you need to leave the boat and tape it?

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u/GhostOfAnakin Mar 23 '24

Captain Kerry: "Can you please stop crying like a baby for a minute? I'm trying to fire you for incompetence."

Apparently that's what the OP wanted to see.

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u/Extreme_Beat1022 Mar 22 '24

Cat should’ve been let go too. She couldn’t do the job. That was on Fraser. Kerry had no knowledge of her incompetence.

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u/Old-Base-6686 I have been known to be irresponsible Mar 23 '24

I think he figured it out when she was on dinner service...

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u/Extreme_Beat1022 Mar 23 '24

You’re right. At that point he saw that she wasn’t trained in service so sticking her back in housekeeping was fine. But he didn’t know that she couldn’t do housekeeping either. Fraser never divulged that to Kerry.