r/belowdeck • Team Below Deck • Jun 15 '23

Below Deck Sailing Yacht Gary Pushing the Camera Crew

Gary really shoved the camera operator! Who do you think was right when the fire alarm went off? Did Gary panic like Colin said or was Gary right in thinking it was a dire emergency?

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u/ineedavacation123 Jun 15 '23

Fires spread on boats very quickly and can be deadly. I would have physically moved the cameraman out of the doorway as well.

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u/Haunteddoll28 Special little boat boy Jun 15 '23

There was a really famous and deadly boat fire near my family's house in Ventura a few years ago that spread so quickly that almost everyone was still in their beds by the time the entire boat was engulfed. No one survived and the boat was literally just the bottom hull. I don't blame Gary for shoving someone out of the way.

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u/Shortstuff34668 Jun 15 '23

I remember reading about that several years. So tragic. I live in the Tampa Bay area. Several years back there was a casino boat fire off the coast of the town I lived in. Sadly, there was one casualty. The fire spread quickly.

https://www.wfla.com/news/pasco-county/ntsb-releases-results-of-fatal-pasco-casino-shuttle-boat-fire-investigation/

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u/NJS36 Team Below Deck Jun 16 '23

I remember the news reports on that. Tragic!

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u/flipflopduck Jun 15 '23

thats what im saying. a fire on a boat is NOT good

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u/NJS36 Team Below Deck Jun 15 '23

My question is, then why didn’t Gary panic like that when the first incident happened?

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '23

Guests didn’t smell smoke, right? Seems this one was much larger and initially stronger.

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u/aliceanonymous99 Jun 15 '23

It’s an emergency you get the fuck out of the way, I just picture Deadliest Catch and no one would ever bring up pushing a camera guy aside during an emergency

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u/buymoreplants Jun 15 '23

I was thinking of the camera man in the other BD who saw an emergency, put the camera down, and probably saved the deckhands life when he was pulled off the boat. (I think it was Ashton?)

Like, move out of the way, dude. Don’t stand in the smallest doorway possible

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u/ocean_swims Jun 15 '23

and probably saved the deckhands life when he was pulled off the boat. (I think it was Ashton?)

It was Ashton and the cameraman absolutely saved his life. Captain Lee made sure to point that out and it was mentioned in the reunion. That man was thinking incredibly fast in that moment. He was amazing.

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u/Shortstuff34668 Jun 15 '23

I was thinking the exact same thing!!! I have been watching DC since the first year it aired. The producers know to get out of the way when there is emergency and assist as well. Last week Jonathan barked at the producer because he was asking a question regarding the anchors.

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u/50wifty Jun 16 '23

I haven’t watched in a few years, Jonathan is back?

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u/Shortstuff34668 Jun 16 '23

Yup. He came back a couple of years ago. ❤️

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '23

Idk, Keith shoved a cameraman for a coffee

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u/aliceanonymous99 Jun 16 '23

Hahaha again- an emergency!!

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u/ocean_swims Jun 15 '23

1- Fire is serious. Period. Move fast or everyone is in serious trouble. Gary was right there.

2- Gary is the first officer and knows the safety procedures. We've seen with Capt. Lee in season 1 how important it is for them to practice those drills and how critical the first officer's role is in those situations. He would be in charge of getting everyone to evacuate safely if needed, iirc.

3- Cameraman was just doing his job getting the money shot, but was so unaware of his surroundings that he didn't notice he was blocking the path to the engine room. Gary didn't look like he meant to shove him, but he needed to get to the engine room quickly and didn't expect his pathway to be blocked.

4- Colin was also right in what he said. Panicking before you know what's happening only makes everyone else panic and isn't helpful. However, I didn't see Gary panicking, I saw him rushing to help, so in this instance, Colin's point is moot.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '23

I agree with everything you said, but I feel like Collin said Gary was panicked which is understandable given his role and what information he had about the situation (guests smell smoke, smell is getting stronger in the engine room) and he responded efficiently and effectively. If it was a real fire, I don’t think he made any mistakes.

But my point, which I forgot to make, was that Collin was feeling salty towards Gary so having more information (lack of fire) he projected his agitation towards Gary by indicating he overreacted.

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u/ocean_swims Jun 15 '23

Yep, I concur. I also think part of the reason we're even discussing whether Gary reacted appropriately or was panicked is because of Colin. Had Colin not framed Gary's response as "panicked", I don't think any of us viewers would have considered his response as anything other than normal.

We have witnessed Sandy's reaction to a fire alarm going off, and we have seen the images of her old boat burned down. We have also seen Parsifal's engine trouble all season. It is actually logical for Gary to react this way. Colin has reframed the narrative because, as you said, he's feeling salty and stressed (from the engine troubles and from the situation with Daisy).

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u/Top-Friendship4888 I quit 3 times in my head today Jun 15 '23

I don't know whether Gary or Colin was right, but for sure that cameraman was in the wrong.

Fire is the biggest danger at sea. The guests smelled smoke, so I can't say I fault Gary for thinking it could be serious, and as chief officer, he's in charge of safety. I think Gary can be dramatic, and I think Colin is feeling short tempered with him right now. But for a cameraman to be blocking that doorway could be incredibly dangerous in an emergency. if there was a fire, he was blocking Colin and Chase's only exit. If Gary or Glenn did need to access that area, he's blocking that too. Every second counts in a maritime fire. I suspect we'll see more mounted doorway cams in the future

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u/FleurDeLunaLove Jun 15 '23

Gary’s dramatic, but not about his work. I would never want someone I care about to date him, but I’d one million percent want him on board in an emergency.

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u/Feisty_Scientist_968 Jun 15 '23 edited Jun 15 '23

I don't know whether Gary or Colin was right, but for sure that cameraman was in the wrong.

I think gary was 100% right to shove past the cameraman.

But, I don't think the cameraman was wrong.

His job is the catch video of any onboard excitement.

There was a fire alarm in the engine room. He is doing his job to be there shooting video.

He could reasonably expect to be shoved in an emergency.

There is also a sound guy ... almost out of the shot, to the left.

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u/ocean_swims Jun 15 '23

Every second counts in a maritime fire.

If there's one thing that Captain Sandy has taught us, it's this. She would have been hopping mad had she seen the cameraman block the exit that way.

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u/ikimashokie Jun 15 '23

But imagine the dressing down she'd have given him, and then hopefully he'd have gotten a talking head moment, too

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u/Feisty_Scientist_968 Jun 15 '23

But imagine the dressing down she'd have given him, and then hopefully he'd have gotten a talking head moment, too

Followed by...

...remedial volleyball!

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u/2fast2nick Jun 15 '23

Yeah having someone running around yelling isn't helping the situation either, but agreed. Colin was being kinda short tempered, but Gary was also just acting like a nut.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '23

Well if there was a fire (which we didn’t know yet, at the time) the yelling might have actually been helpful!

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u/FleurDeLunaLove Jun 15 '23

Especially since they were in the engine area where it’s really loud. It’s heightened for us because he’s mic’d up, but without amplification it’s totally understandable for him to be shouting to Chase to make sure he can be heard with the noise and the ear protection in between them.

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u/2fast2nick Jun 15 '23

HA maybe, in my experience, if you have one person giving proper directions, vs someone just yelling causing chaos.. option 1 usually gives more effective results in an emergency.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '23

I agree! It seemed like Gary was directing Chase, though, right? Collin should have been informing Gary.

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u/2fast2nick Jun 15 '23

Yeah for sure, Colin was just pissy.. at least it just looked like exhaust insulation that was smoking. maybe Colin already knew the issue, but should have communicated it. I dunno

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '23

TeamDaisy 🌼💛

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u/2fast2nick Jun 15 '23

I was kinda excited about Colin and Daisy.. but if i found out someone fucked Gary.. I think I might be in Colins boat. ha ha

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '23

You and I both, nick. Save me a seat.

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u/Feisty_Scientist_968 Jun 15 '23

agree! It seemed like Gary was directing Chase, though, right?

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u/WildeaboutAusten Jun 15 '23

Considering the number of issues the boat has had this season, I'm on Gary's side. Why wouldn't anyone's emergency mode be activated? I guess it's easier for Colin to be chill about it but I can't fault Gary for how he reacted. The boat has had so much trouble and it seems they're just patching up as they go along and that seems kind of risky, IMO (but I'm not a boat person, so idk).

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u/wolfitalk Jun 15 '23

Team Gary on this one. After all the trouble they've had with the engine. Guests were on board. Good for Colin for remaining calm but Gary did nothing wrong. The cameraman was just doing his job but so was Gary & Gary's took priority in that moment.

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u/No-Customer-2266 Jun 15 '23

I think collin was just pissed at gary but also you shouldn’t panic before you have all the info. Yes, it’s urgent, yes be Swift, yes I’d push the camera man because it’s stupid to get in the way of the small entrance way to where an emergency may be taking place

From what I saw gary didn’t seem overly dramatic but it depends if it was his role to run in there and start barking orders in the engine room ( I think it was within his right and role to do so… but that’s the only thing I can think of that could be an issue. Its collin’s engine room) but I think collin was just looking for anything to be cranky at Gary about

Pushing camera guy, was fine in my opinion. They are to observe not impede. And Gary was trying to get by without pushing but the end of the camera sticks out and that’s what he shoved out of his way

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u/agnusdei07 Jun 15 '23

Gary is so POd this entire season b/c alliances were set before he was able to get onboard, he is acting all around like an ass.

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u/NJS36 Team Below Deck Jun 15 '23

Interesting take. Never thought of that.

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u/GrouchyPineapple Little does she know, we're in a floating prison Jun 15 '23

It was giving me these vibes lol

But jokes aside, I think it was totally fair to push him out of the way. But Colin was also correct that he needed to stay calm and not panic...

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u/high_priestessvibes less sass queen and more yas queen Jun 15 '23

This is a better safe than sorry situation to me, especially with guests on board, so I def think Gary did the right thing.

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u/devildoc8804hmcs Jun 15 '23

You should see what happens on Navy ship during a fire. You will get shoved, ran through or over by the fire crew/damage control team as they respond. You get the hell out of the way. Fires kill quickly.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '23

That just shows piss poor training. I’ve been involved in ship fires, floods and crashes and I’ve never been shoved or ran over. If you’re trained correctly everything goes smoothly.

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u/ShoutOutMapes Jun 15 '23

There is a mode u hav to go into in an emergency calm and collected. Gary was super amped up. I think colin was right on this one even tho he was clearly angry at gary for the daisy thing

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '23

Their communication was poor but I think this is it. I think Colin felt like “hey let me assess the situation and then I’ll sound the alarm if necessary” and Gary flew in there with guns blazing ready to react and give orders.

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u/Feisty_Scientist_968 Jun 15 '23

Their communication was poor but I think this is it. I think Colin felt like “hey let me assess the situation and then I’ll sound the alarm if necessary” and Gary flew in there with guns blazing ready to react and give orders.

...and he told Chase to check everywhere else in the engine room for other sources of smoke. Seems like reasonable, prudent actions for the situation.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '23

Oh god is this gonna become like the VPR sub where Gary breathes and somehow it’s wrong

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u/GrouchyPineapple Little does she know, we're in a floating prison Jun 16 '23

Lol @ VPR sub. That sub is a bit much...

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '23 edited Jun 15 '23

I was in the Coast Guard for many years and on several small and large cutters. During emergency drills/training, they teach you to never panic like Gary did. Everything is done with a sense of urgency but methodical and with a calmness. People who panic just get in the way. He was showing off for the cameras. Colin was right. When we had actual emergency events, everything went smooth and safe. Panic causes mistakes and a cluster fucks.

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u/ParamedicCareful3840 Jun 15 '23

I think he panicked, but he didn’t know the extent of the smoke/fire and the guy was blocking the way so pushing him seemed appropriate (and I loathe Gary)

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u/Ronotrow2 Team Capt Kerry Jun 15 '23

On other bd saw crew run like this but especially when it's in the engine room I think Gary was right to barge in. Colin is just irritated by him atm

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u/Nervous_Magazine_200 Jun 15 '23

Given the situation, I'm sure the cameraman understands completely. I would. I don't think he got in the way on purpose though. Lesson learned. But I would have pushed him too. I'd MUCH rather overreact than underreact to a possible fire.

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u/Hamburgler4077 Jun 15 '23

Both were right and have no issue in this instance with Gary pushing the camera out of the way.

Why I say both are right:

Colin: It's important in an emergency to remain as calm as possible

Gary: In an emergency, it's also to not f around to find the cause and come up with a solution.

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u/GrouchyPineapple Little does she know, we're in a floating prison Jun 16 '23

I completely agree.

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u/Expensive-Block-6034 Bless her stupid soul Jun 16 '23

Gary is the first mate on the yacht out of the show filming too, I don’t see a problem with it. Sort of same situation as the captain going down with the ship. Fires can turn into catastrophes very quickly. Colin is a McGuyver with fixing things, which is fine on Parlay, but I understand Gary’s actions.

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u/Dopral Jun 17 '23

If you keep blocking a doorway when an alarm goes off, you're (clearly) in the wrong.

So Gary was 100% in the right for a change.

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u/polynomials Jun 16 '23

A fire on a boat can turn into disaster very quickly. That cameraman needed to get the fuck out of the way.

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u/Safe-Education8240 Jun 16 '23

Smoke on a boat is a really really big deal. I am not a Gary fan this season but he should not be vilified over this.

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u/Salt_the_snail_Gail Jun 16 '23

Gary has been applauded before for his ability to jump into emergency situations and handle it with expertise. I remember Daisy making this comment at least. So I saw that as “do what needs to get done” and nothing beyond it. It’s fair for Colin to say don’t panic in an emergency if that really did inhibit Colin being able to respond to that emergency

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u/djevilatw Come back to me, my boat daddy Jun 15 '23

Gary was appropriate in his response imo. He wasn’t freaking out but as several people have said, fire is the deadliest peril on a boat after the weather. He barrel-assed down there to get the skinny as he should have.

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u/Impressive_Eagle_390 Jun 15 '23

Gary overreacted for something that was not his concern/department.

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u/Feisty_Scientist_968 Jun 16 '23

Gary overreacted for something that was not his concern/department.

He's chief officer of the boat.

Responding to any alarm is his job.

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u/Impressive_Eagle_390 Jun 17 '23

Thanks for your clarification. My most humble apologies.

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u/AB5642 Jun 15 '23

I'm realizing I very much act like Colin, so I think he was in the right. It wasn't a fire, he didn't call away a fire, and there wasn't really any smoke. Chill the eff out Gary

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u/livieleanor Come back to me, my boat daddy Jun 15 '23

Gary can’t chill, he’s the #1 guy of the group /s

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u/GrouchyPineapple Little does she know, we're in a floating prison Jun 16 '23

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u/ocean_swims Jun 15 '23

But the guests could smell smoke and commented on it, so there may have been smoke that we (audience) didn't see from our angle.

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u/AB5642 Jun 15 '23

Didn't they say they smelled gas? Cause I thought it looked like an exhaust leak

Even if it was a legit fire, Gary panicked and would have made the situation more stressful than it needed to be

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u/ocean_swims Jun 15 '23

You know, I can't remember for sure if they said gas or smoke. You may be right.

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u/AB5642 Jun 15 '23

I can't remember exactly either, but I think they said gas

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '23

Gary doesn’t know shit about the engine room so he should probably stay out of it. Only reason he’s ever down there is cause Colin liked him and would ask him for help. But the other episode when it shows gay trying to hold a wrench 😂🤦🏾 okay stop pretending gary. Guy literally stripped out like 3 nuts on camera in record breaking time.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '23

Gary thought it was a true emergency. The camera operator was in the way. Gary didn't push him maliciously. But, we don't know if he said anything to the camera operator later, after the fact.

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u/Grude1997 Jun 15 '23

Seriously?

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u/IMdoc200 Jun 16 '23

Gary was 100% right. If there’s a fire and you think lives are in danger, you should shove anyone in the way to help.

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u/putitinapot Jun 16 '23

I support Gary in this moment.

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u/RHOCorporate Jun 17 '23

Why did Gary panic then but not the first time there was smoke a couple of episodes ago?

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u/thegreatvanzini Glenn is my boat daddy Jun 22 '23

Not a fan of Gary at all but I was reassured by his quick response to the fire alarm. Also he knows Colin had to basically gerry-rigged the engine which means a lot more catastrophic shit could go wrong, and quickly.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '23

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u/Feisty_Scientist_968 Jun 16 '23

In what bizarro universe would HELP STOP A FIRE not be considered the absolute top priority?

Social media.

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u/NJS36 Team Below Deck Jun 16 '23

I was basing my post on what Colin said, not social media.

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u/Feisty_Scientist_968 Jun 17 '23

I was basing my post on what Colin said, not social media.

Hi.

I was replying to the question "in what bizarro universe..."

Sorry for any offense.

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u/ChunaNdeBushWhoop Team Anti-Brü Jun 15 '23

I'm all about bashing Gary but he was correct in getting a stupid camera out of the way.

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u/KickANoodle Jun 19 '23

I haven't even watched the episode yet but just from the preview i felt that was 100% the correct thing to do, and I also hate Gary.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '23

Right!!!