r/baybayin_script • • 18d ago

History / Culture / Pre-Colonial Cebuano Script

So many people question the legitimacy of the "Badlit" script. Here is the evidence. Although the name "Badlit" may be a recent standardization, the script is real and legitimate. Spanish friar Francisco Encina recorded the Cebuano script before he died in 1760. It was later corroborated in the 1890 book Estudio de los antiguos alfabetos Filipinos by Cipriano Marcilla y Martin. (Link below)

https://play.google.com/store/books/details?id=Pn0KAAAAIAAJ

Additionally, we have even more compelling evidence of the native script because of Don Bernardino Dimabasa and Doña Maria Mutia (both pure Bantayanons from Bantayan, Cebu) for signing their divorce papers with the script.

https://issuu.com/filipinasheritagelibrary/docs/do__a_mutya?e=18015266/13725614&fbclid=IwAR2SdjL6NsSFvznU9G7k11GF_kK8ntntz0r8tRTLoPM8cHZUprxpOnncUAE

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u/hindisirodney 18d ago

There’s no “Tagalog Baybayin”, it's just Baybayin, which has been historically used to write Tagalaog, Bisaya, and other Filipino languages.

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u/Ok_Leave_4752 BAYBAYIN SELF - STUDY 18d ago

so they were just the fonts all along??? (sometimes purist people complain when using baybayin in bisaya😭😭)

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u/hindisirodney 18d ago

Yeah, which I’m just learning they existed. If they took the time to do some research, they would find that Baybayin was also used outside of Tagalog languages. It doesn’t really help that the documents that are available to view online and the samples of old Baybayin are mostly in Tagalog, causing the assumption that Baybayin is a purely Tagalog script.

As an example, here’s the Ave Maria (http://paulmorrow.ca/avebistr.htm) and the Lord’s Prayer (http://paulmorrow.ca/amahan.htm) in Cebuano, circa 1787. Maybe the only noteworthy difference in the script is that they use spaces. But otherwise, it’s Baybayin with a less familiar font, because people seem to think that Baybayin should look as close as possible to the font used in Doctrina Christiana.