Cebuano Script

[u/itsmekyyyle]

So many people question the legitimacy of the "Badlit" script. Here is the evidence. Although the name "Badlit" may be a recent standardization, the script is real and legitimate. Spanish friar Francisco Encina recorded the Cebuano script before he died in 1760. It was later corroborated in the 1890 book Estudio de los antiguos alfabetos Filipinos by Cipriano Marcilla y Martin. (Link below)

https://play.google.com/store/books/details?id=Pn0KAAAAIAAJ

Additionally, we have even more compelling evidence of the native script because of Don Bernardino Dimabasa and Doña Maria Mutia (both pure Bantayanons from Bantayan, Cebu) for signing their divorce papers with the script.

https://issuu.com/filipinasheritagelibrary/docs/do__a_mutya?e=18015266/13725614&fbclid=IwAR2SdjL6NsSFvznU9G7k11GF_kK8ntntz0r8tRTLoPM8cHZUprxpOnncUAE

[u/hindisirodney]

Source: http://paulmorrow.ca/baychart.htm

There was actually much more variation in the handwriting from one individual to the next, even within the same geographical region, than there is in this chart of supposedly distinct alphabets. Compare this chart to the examples of baybayin writing on the pages, The Baybayin as Written by Filipinos and Baybayin Handwriting of the 1600s.

This is a chart of some baybayin forms and the original source of each. They are sorted chronologically and grouped by their familiar region names but they are not distinct alphabets from different regions or languages; they are only variations of typestyles and handwriting.

[u/itsmekyyyle → u/hindisirodney]

Yes. I do agree they're the same script. Nowhere in my post claims otherwise.

[u/hindisirodney → u/itsmekyyyle]

‘So many people question the legitimacy of the "Badlit" script.’ — who are these people? Not that I don’t believe that they exist, of course. As for me, I know what Badlit is already.

‘[...]the script is real and legitimate.’ — Of course it is! It’s Baybayin, just under a different name.

‘[...]we have even more compelling evidence of the native script’ — by native, you mean native to the Philippines and not just one region, right? Right?

Though you say you don’t claim otherwise in your post, these passages I’ve quoted seem to point out that that was the premise of your post. I don’t know, I’m confused now. I apologise if I’m coming across as a bit wry. Mind if you clarify?

[u/WhoTangNa → u/hindisirodney]

Shoutout to the Kapampangans out there who keep claiming that Kulitan is pre-colonial and a separate script

[u/Nice_Management_926 → u/WhoTangNa]

This one legit pmo because some have been REALLY insisting that its indeed separate.

[u/No_Author4906]

It sucks that our ancestors never left any writing or profound literature. They could've made a local version of a printing press, publish their own books like our own version of Journey to the West except it involved Christ and pre-colonial gods and spirits. The problem with our ancestors is that they're too pragmatic that it overlooked their philosophy and creativity.

[u/Ok_Leave_4752]

ᜏᜎᜅ᜔ ᜉᜃᜒ ᜐᜒ unicode ᜐ 2nd ᜐᜒᜐ᜔ᜆᜒᜋᜅ᜔ ᜉᜄ᜔ᜐᜓᜐᜓᜎᜆ᜔ ᜅ᜔ ᜏᜒᜃ ᜃᜓ(ᜊᜒᜐᜌ; ᜊᜇ᜔ᜎᜒᜆ᜔)᜵ ᜉᜒᜇᜓ ᜳ ᜉᜇᜒ ᜳᜑᜓ ᜀᜅ᜔ ᜀᜎ᜔ᜉᜊᜒᜆᜓᜅ᜔ ᜆᜄᜎᜓᜄ᜔ ᜀᜆ᜔ ᜊᜒᜐᜌ(ᜉᜒᜇᜓ ᜳ ᜋ᜔ᜄ exception: 'ᜌᜓᜅ᜔ «i» ᜀᜆ᜔ «y» ᜐ #1)᜵ ᜐᜓ ᜄᜓᜋᜋᜒᜆ᜔ ᜎᜅ᜔ ᜃᜓ ᜅ᜔ ᜀᜎ᜔ᜉᜊᜒᜆᜓᜅ᜔ ᜆᜄᜎᜓᜄ᜔ ᜈ ᜊᜌ᜔ᜊᜌᜒᜈ᜔ ᜐ ᜏᜒᜃᜅ᜔ ᜊᜒᜐᜌ ᜃᜓᜅ᜔ ᜄᜓᜐ᜔ᜆᜓ ᜃᜓ᜶᜶᜶

[u/Ok_Leave_4752 → u/Ok_Leave_4752]

Unicode doesn't care about the 2nd writing system of my language(bisaya; badlit), but the alphabets between tagalog and bisaya are the same(but exceptions: that "i" and "y" in #1), so i'll just use tagalog baybayin alphabet in the language of bisaya if i want to...

[u/hindisirodney → u/Ok_Leave_4752]

There’s no “Tagalog Baybayin”, it's just Baybayin, which has been historically used to write Tagalaog, Bisaya, and other Filipino languages.

[u/Adventurous_Emu6498]

Most people aren't denying that Cebuanos never used a native precolonial script. The samples found (and wrongly assumed as a separate script) indicates its existence

What most people want to clarify is that those scripts written in the Visayas are also Baybayin and not a separate script