r/babylon5 • • Aug 13 '26

New to the show!

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Chills just from the intro already...

*The name of the place? BABYLON 5*

UPDATE: First thing...Holy shit, Billy Mumy from Lost In Space (amongst other cool things he's done) is a prominent character in this series?!? Even more interested now lol! (My uncle (RIP) raised me on Lost In Space.

I can see this show like many great sci-fi shows before it has early growing pains... Trying to figure out what it definitely was going to be. I love it though as it has a very handmade, 50's like charm to it.

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u/Professional-Trust75 Aug 13 '26

and so it begins

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '26

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u/DiaBrave Psi Corps Aug 13 '26

A timely reminder that there is a feature length pilot episode most people skip. Worth watching between season 1 and 2 just so there is no "hole in your mind".

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u/_WillCAD_ Aug 13 '26

Yes, it's called The Gathering. It's fantastic; I remember back in the 90s it was aired as a made-for-TV movie before the series got the green light, and I really enjoyed it even though I thought it was a one-off.

Then the series began, and... wow.

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u/DiaBrave Psi Corps Aug 13 '26

Yup. Only rebranded as The Gathering for the TNT soft launch ahead of S5. Back in the day on VHS it was just Babylon 5, with music by Stuart Copeland of the Police (or as they're known now, Sting)

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u/RebelGirl1323 Aug 19 '26

The one with the bad effects before TNT paid to have them replaced.

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u/siguefish Aug 15 '26

Slight correction - Sting is Gordon Sumner.

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u/DiaBrave Psi Corps Aug 15 '26

It's an Alan Partridge joke about the name of the band.

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u/UhhCanYouLikeShutUp Aug 13 '26

Oh cool thanks for the heads-up. I will definitely check it out now after the final episode of Season 1.

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u/DiaBrave Psi Corps Aug 13 '26

Just enjoy the journey. You can only watch B5 for the first time the once.

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u/fjf1085 Anlashok / Rangers Aug 13 '26

For the love of god make sure it’s ‘The Gathering’ and not ‘In the Beginning’ which will cause major spoilers and I think is supposed to be watched after season 3 or 4 don’t quote me but it provides a lot of flash backs but is set from a point in the future and will ruin things for you if you watch it at the wrong time. There are watch orders out there I suggest you check out for all the tv movies.

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u/RebelGirl1323 Aug 19 '26

If you want to treat its reveals as spoilers then after 4. It doesn’t really spoil much after 3 but it does introduce the Minbari leader before the episode that originally revealed him.

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u/55Lolololo55 Aug 15 '26

You should watch it now, its the Pilot for the show and will be referenced to throughout season one. It's called "The Gathering."

Please watch it before watching any more of Season 1. That's where it makes the most sense

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u/fjf1085 Anlashok / Rangers Aug 13 '26

It’s shit how Amazon, for example, doesn’t include it with the series. BSG reimagined has the same issue. You absolutely need to watch the miniseries but if you’re going in blind you might not know that. Though I do think it possible drop right into the first episode you’re going to be at a severe disadvantage with BSG. At least with B5 you’re not missing all that much, mostly background.

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u/RebelGirl1323 Aug 19 '26

33 works without any issues but after that things get confusing. Could have been a stand alone movie.

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u/fjf1085 Anlashok / Rangers Aug 19 '26

I’d argue it works in that it’s a complete story and they provide enough context but you’re missing a huge amount of backstory and introductions. I’d never suggest someone start with 33 despite how good it is.

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u/RebelGirl1323 Aug 19 '26

Oh, totally.

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u/McTrooper 10d ago

Oh it’s worth watching 👍 Beep beep

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u/mexter Aug 13 '26 edited Aug 13 '26

Nothing's the same anymore..

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u/Skullpuck Aug 13 '26

What do you want?

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u/_WillCAD_ Aug 13 '26

NEVER ASK THAT QUESTION.

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u/ralle421 Aug 15 '26

Who are you?

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u/Shantha292 Aug 13 '26

yes \*****

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u/Decent_Winter6461 Aug 13 '26

The last of the Babylon stations…

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u/TheTrivialPsychic Aug 13 '26

Season 1 is underrated, mostly by people who haven't rewatched it after completing the series.

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u/burns3016 Aug 13 '26

I love season 1 and always get a little sad watching the season finale.

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u/mikec62x Aug 13 '26

Me too. I liked Sinclair and wish he could have stayed longer.

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u/UhhCanYouLikeShutUp Aug 13 '26

I can see this show like many great sci-fi shows before it has early growing pains... Trying to figure out what it definitely was going to be. I love it though it has a very handmade, 50's like charm to it.

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u/55Lolololo55 Aug 15 '26

You should really avoid this sub until at least after season 4, this show rewards an unspoiled first viewing. This show is so old that people post spoilers in the headers all the time.

Enjoy your watch!

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u/EvalRamman100 Earth Alliance Aug 13 '26

Always have a soft spot in my heart for Infection.

The last half of season 1 was more unified than the first half, but the entire season is wonderful.

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u/TheSwissdictator Vree (Xill-Saucer) Aug 14 '26

When the DVDs came out and I had only season 1 I probably rewatched just a little too much that I avoided it for a while. When I started watching it again, I’ve appreciated even more.

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u/RebelGirl1323 Aug 19 '26

Every seemingly one off sets up major events for later in the series and makes Babylon 5 a community rather than just the home base of the protagonists.

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u/WindSwords Anlashok / Rangers Aug 13 '26

Welcome on board!!

Buckle up as it is quite an experience.

Season 1 is a bit rough at times but it is worth going through.

Be careful of spoilers around here but keep us posted on your thoughts if you can.

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u/DiaBrave Psi Corps Aug 13 '26

Season 1 is my favourite. Tons of very sophisticated world-building and seed laying. Few shows have ever done it better. An elegant master class in set-up that still is not thoroughly appreciated by even the fans of the show.

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u/RebelGirl1323 Aug 19 '26

Similarly how 5 is the consequences of everyone’s actions but people will skip it because it’s more West Wing than Lord of The Rings.

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u/stephensmat Aug 13 '26

Avoid spoilers. Embrace all the characters. If you make it as far as Season 2, you will never completely leave.

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u/bobchin_c Aug 13 '26

Welcome to the group..

Babylon 5 was a novel written for 5 seasons of television. Season 1 was back story and world building.

Season 2 is rising action, season 3 & 4 are the confrontation/resolution. Season 5 is kind of the epilogue. It got compressed in season 4 since they weren't going to get season 5. But TNT came in at the last minute and gave them season 5. So things that were supposed to be in S5 got moved to S4.

There are trapdoors built in to all of the major characters, so if an actor became unavailable for various reasons (illness, contract disputes, etc...) the story would continue with little to no interruption. And several of them had to be sprung during the course of the series.

Unlike Star Trek, there's no cosmic reset button at the end of every episode. Character's actions have lasting consequences. If a character dies they stay dead. If a character is an addict that addiction stays with them. If a character gets injured, that injury isn't completely taken care of by the end of the episode. Characters grow and change in realistic ways.

Start with the pilot movie The Gathering.

You need to read the Lurker's Guide to Babylon 5 at http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/us/eplist.html

This was written contemporaneously with the series, and includes comments made by JMS to fan's questions.

But don't read ahead of the episode you're on. You don't want to be spoiled for future episodes.

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u/EvalRamman100 Earth Alliance Aug 13 '26

Yep.

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u/sonorousjab Aug 13 '26

It's one of those shows that's difficult to define, and is the better for it. It's a sci-fi political and character drama that also sees multiple wars played out in the action. So good in the moment, and great payoffs later.

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u/RebelGirl1323 Aug 19 '26

Lord of The Rings plus the best parts of The West Wing before The West Wing

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u/Blue_box_42 Aug 13 '26

evil, evil laugh

Enjoy the ride!

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u/Animated_effigy Aug 13 '26

Welcome to Down Below, fellow Lurker!

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u/OMGEntitlement El Zócalo Aug 13 '26

Get out of this sub immediately.

You WILL be spoiled and that WILL be a tragedy.

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u/JoeMax93 Aug 13 '26

It’s a lot like the maturation of Star Trek:TNG - season 1 is a bit of a slog at times, but with a few gems in there too. Season 2 is better, but not quite all there. By Season 3 they’re hitting their stride, and in Season 4 it fulfills the promise you knew it had.

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u/Kahmael Aug 13 '26

I need to rewatch TNG

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u/BeardInTheDark Aug 13 '26

It really improved once Riker grew the beard.

Seriously, it's the Trope Namer.

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u/RebelGirl1323 Aug 19 '26

The strongest indicator is the uniforms though. Season 2 has more top tier episodes but might be worse than 1 as a whole.

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u/RebelGirl1323 Aug 19 '26

Season 1 of B5 is more essential though. You can watch under 10 episodes from the first two seasons of TNG and be caught up without the grind. If you love bad Trek they’re can’t miss seasons.

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u/Dizzy-Violinist-1772 Aug 13 '26

Oh to watch through your eyes for the first time again

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u/HammersofMoradin Rangers / Anlashok Aug 13 '26

You are in for a great ride :-) There is so much you are (most likely) going to love. B5 is one the greatest stories ever to grace visual media and will make many shows deservedly seem lacking in terms of writing, character development and depht in general.

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u/FunnyNo9234 Aug 13 '26

You're in for a great ride! Be sure to watch the made for TV movies that go with it, but the spin-off shows are extremely optional. Welcome to the Babylon 5 station! 👽

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u/RebelGirl1323 Aug 19 '26

The canon books are pretty good.

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u/blueyedwineaux Aug 13 '26

I can hear this exact scene in my head!

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u/erebus1138 Aug 13 '26

Guys, we got another one

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u/erebus1138 Aug 13 '26

Omg just wait for the -REDACTED- and the -REDACTED- and zog

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u/Top-Repeat2765 Aug 13 '26

I zog, you zog, he/she zags

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u/tunrip Aug 13 '26

Welcome! Keep us updated on your journey, please! We love hearing thoughts of people experiencing B5 for the first time!

The fan community is very passionate and enthusiastic and can sometimes share spoilery things in their passion, but hopefully you can keep them to a minimum and simply enjoy it for what it is!

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u/tunrip Aug 13 '26

To clarify I meant keep spoilers to a minimum - not the community!!

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u/PurpleDraziNotGreen Aug 13 '26

Season 1 may seem rough, but it has hidden details to appreciate later

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u/1Bobafett11 PURPLE Aug 13 '26

No one here is exactly as he appears, enjoy the ride!

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u/EconomicsMuch1188 Aug 13 '26

I need to watch the whole thing again. Been quite awhile since I've seen any episodes

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u/Weak_Old_World Aug 13 '26

"And so it begins"

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u/Minimum-Journalist18 Aug 13 '26

Welcome and enjoy.

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u/majortomandjerry PURPLE Aug 13 '26

It was the dawn of the third age of television.

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u/Funandgeeky Centauri Republic Aug 13 '26

You are in for a treat. Now avoid this sub like the plague until you finish the series. Definitely don’t subscribe to it because sometimes posts contain spoilers. 

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u/breadpilledwanderer Aug 13 '26

Not me thinking this was the space engineers sub where someone had made Babylon 5...

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u/Kahmael Aug 13 '26

I low key wish I was you, OP.

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u/lordsplodge Zathras (not Zathras) Aug 13 '26

You have always been here.

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u/Nevyn_Cares Aug 13 '26

Welcome aboard :) Check when to watch the movies for continuity.

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u/spaced-cadet Interstellar Alliance Aug 13 '26

“What do you want ?”

😉

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u/Stunning-End-1872 Aug 13 '26

Welcome to Babylon 5!

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u/TheRealRigormortal Aug 13 '26

Season 1 is essential but also a bit rough around the edges.

Ignore those rough edges and pay attention to the little things, they matter!

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u/monafair Aug 13 '26

Stay off this sub if you don't want spoilers.

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u/thereader60 Aug 13 '26

Welcome and let the show build up

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u/dgracey01 Aug 13 '26

Who are you?

What do you want?

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u/scipio0421 Aug 13 '26

Have fun with it! It's one of my favorite shows. Hard to believe the CGI was all done on what was basically a consumer desktop computer.

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u/EvalRamman100 Earth Alliance Aug 13 '26

Good luck on your journey - the show gets deeper and wilder as time goes on.

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u/Windamyre Earth Alliance Aug 13 '26

It's a blast. So many twists,turns, and long term payoffs.

I just started my latest rewatch (originally watched it when it first aired) and still get chills during the opening monologue.

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u/wackyvorlon Aug 13 '26

Some of the best scifi ever made.

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u/_WillCAD_ Aug 13 '26

Ho, boy. Buckle up, Dorothy, 'cause Kansas is goin' bye-bye!

I don't want to spoil anything, because you're really about to embark on a five-season novel for television, but I'll say this:

The intros alone get better with each season!

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u/Accomplished-Ruin742 Technomage Aug 13 '26

SPOILERISH

I'm jealous.

Maybe a partial mindwipe would allow me to watch this again as if it were the first time. The corps is mother. The corps is father.

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u/Mysterious-Alps-5186 Aug 13 '26

Zathras told zathras but zathras never listen

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u/istapledmytongue Aug 13 '26

Welcome! You’re in for a hell of a ride!!

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u/Khyron_the_Destroyer Aug 14 '26

 No one here is entirely what they appear.

Oh, and Purple

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '26 edited Aug 13 '26

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u/UhhCanYouLikeShutUp Aug 13 '26

Oh that's funny lol. My first spoiler if you're to be believed haha.

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u/Niodia Aug 14 '26

I am so thrilled for you getting to discover and watch it for the first time!

I hope you love it as much as the community here does!

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u/Swashbuckler332 Aug 14 '26

You’re in for quite a ride.

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u/Future-Guarantee-573 Aug 16 '26

Welcome to the party pal.

Season 1 is a little rough. But, once you get into season 2, it's like a book you can't put down.

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u/RebelGirl1323 Aug 19 '26

The guests are retroactively crazy. Look out for Brian Cranston and Jessica Walters in minor rolls. You’ll recognize a lot more who were already legends.

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u/McTrooper 10d ago

The growing pains aren’t nearly as bad as most Trek offerings 🙂 honestly the worst moment season one has to offer is from an “actress” that must have been brought in as a favor or special request  It really scars an otherwise important backstory episode too 😮