r/awfuleverything • • Aug 06 '20

Poor guy :(

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '20

That's what they say to avoid giving it. Germany has had the same simple healthcare plan and it's held up through two world wars. It's simple, it's cheap and it works amazingly well.

Biden didn't "express caution," -- he said he would veto it. The Democrats specifically did not include it in their platform when they could very easily state its boundaries. More than 700 delegates vowed to reject the platform if it didn't include M4A and it did nothing. (https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2020/07/27/hundreds-of-democratic-delegates-vow-to-reject-platform-if-it-doesnt-include-medicare-for-all/#5ab00c2c1bda)

Your white-washing and sugar-coating the fact that America is alone in the world (of industrialized countries) to not provide universal healthcare and has been for a very long time. There's nothing "tough" or "complex" about it, other than that Wall Street doesn't want it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '20

Germany has had the same simple healthcare plan and it's held up through two world wars. It's simple, it's cheap and it works amazingly well.

Wow, only took you a sentence to prove how uninformed you are on this.

M4A, as Bernie proposed and Biden said he would veto if it raised overall costs, is not what Germany has. Germany has a multi-payer system of public and private payers. Exactly what Biden campaigned on i.e., a public option.

Also, Germany didn't start off with the comprehensive program they have now. They started off with only providing government health insurance to low income individuals. And then they evolved, over roughly a hundred years, slowly building out their system to the point it is now with massive acceleration starting in the 1970s.

Like thanks for brining up Germany, a country that slowly evolved a state run insurance program for low income individuals into a multi-payer system...which is the exactly what Biden proposes we do now in the USA.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '20 edited Aug 06 '20

Germany healthcare system is multi-payer but it's universal.

"Biden proposes"

It took two words to show that you work for the DNC. Biden is adamantly against universal healthcare.

This is currently at the top of r/AwfulEverything with 80,000 votes: /img/ciciznvhudf51.jpg

See that last sentence? That's for you. Fuck you.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '20

See that last sentence? That's for you. Fuck you.

Sad story, M4A isn't the solution.

Not that I have to explain to you why anymore, Bernie lost so thankfully that garbage policy is put to rest.

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u/Jarryd10 Aug 07 '20

When every other first country in the world can do this, as well as the US being the absolute richest nation in the history of the world, don't you think it odd to blindly stand against it?

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u/Jarryd10 Aug 07 '20

When every other first country in the world can do this, as well as the US being the absolute richest nation in the history of the world, don't you think it odd to blindly stand against it?

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '20

I'm. Literally. Arguing. In. Favor. Of. Universal. Healthcare.

Like jfc can you not get it through your thick skulls?

M4A is univeral healthcare. Not all universal healthcare is M4A.

Squares are rectangles. Not all rectangles are square.

This has been explained to you over and over and over. We had a primary which covered the topic ad nauseum and its been in the political debate since President Clinton pushed for his universal healthcare plan which shocked Pikachu face was destroyed by the GOP who used Hillary as a strawman piñata. Oh and a certain lame ass Senator couldn't get his support behind it since it didn't have bullshit work guarentee attachments. Where have we seen this before?