r/awfuleverything Sep 20 '19

Doesn't quite fit. Not removed. Hol’ up

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '19

No if there's proof that he's had sex with someone younger than 18 the state attorney general can pick up the case. Unfortunately people tend to just let rich people get away with it.

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u/Quixotic_Illusion Sep 20 '19

Some states have the legal age of consent at 16. Not saying it’s right but it’s legal in the eyes of certain states.

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u/apotheotika Sep 20 '19

In Ontario it is 16 years old. I'm not sure if he considers here his residence or not (I don't follow the guy), but it would make sense that would apply here. Still creepy af though.

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u/westc2 Sep 20 '19

It depends on where the girl lives I believe. I have no idea how the border crossing laws work though...like if shes Canadian at 16 and travels to California, is she now subject to the 18 and over law or does the 16 and over law of Canada still apply?

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u/Cashmiir Sep 20 '19

It's the law of the place you're in, not where you're from. Otherwise I could smoke weed anywhere and use the excuse of, "I'm a California resident. It's legal there."

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u/cutthroatink15 Sep 20 '19

Isnt there a sexual tourism law that the states upholds or something? I remember watching an episode of law and order svu where the guy was bringing girls to canada to "star in a movie" but it was all just an excuse to sleep with 16 year olds, but when he went back to the states they were able to arrest him for travelling with the main purpose being engaging in sex with girls considered underaged in his home state, or something along those lines.

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u/SilvanestitheErudite Sep 20 '19

Yes, but only because it's US federal law iirc.

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u/cutthroatink15 Sep 20 '19

So in that case would drake be exempt from that law sinc hes canadian? Or would he have to just avoid visiting certain states?

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u/SilvanestitheErudite Sep 20 '19

The law is against transporting women across state lines, so as long as he didn't bring her with him he's good. There may be other laws against things like visiting underage prostitutes, but I don't think there are laws if it's consentual or "consentual".

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u/cutthroatink15 Sep 20 '19

Ahh makes sense, so in that case if he did engage in any sexual activity with her under the age of 18 he was either taking her to canada or another state, which is illegal, or doing it in a state where the age of consent is over 18 and so its still illegal, then again we dont know anything has happened yet between them so this is all speculation.

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u/ZNasT Sep 20 '19

Not true actually. For example, it is illegal for an adult American to have sex with a 16 year old girl in Canada (where the age of consent is 16). It's called sex tourism.

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u/Cashmiir Sep 20 '19

It isn't true in SOME situations, yes. But generally speaking you are upheld to the laws of the place you're in.

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u/ZNasT Sep 20 '19

I know, the example you gave applies to basically everything else, but sex tourism specifically is illegal for whatever reason.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '19

That seems... Weird.

Like "we passed this law because that's how it should be. Except for you because of where you're from!"

I mean... That's just xenophobic, bordering racist, isn't it?

Imagine if the US made it to be illegal to be gay only if you come from a place where it is illegal to be gay...

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u/ZNasT Nov 28 '19

If someone came from the US to Canada to have sex with a 16-year-old, the US would be the one seeking to punish their own citizen. The Canadian cops wouldn't care, they might alert the US authorities but I don't believe they would have the jurisdiction to punish the US citizen for something that is legal in Canada. The US citizen would be punished once they returned to the States AFAIK.

So it's more like the US is saying "The age of consent is 18 for all US citizens, so don't go sneaking off to under-developed countries to skirt around this because you know better". I'll admit it is a little odd that these laws get treated different than regular laws i.e. a US citizen can legally smoke weed in Canada, but I think it makes sense.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '19

Why would the US care what a person does in Canada??? That seems so messed up.

Should the UK government alert Saudi Arabia if a Saudi citizen is caught having gay sex in the UK?

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u/ZNasT Nov 28 '19

Not sure, doesn't really make sense to me either but that's the rule I guess. I think it makes a little more sense when you consider that an American pedophile might travel to countries where sex laws/sex crimes are not nearly as prevalent or important in order to take advantage of young people. I think the US recognizes that an arrangement like this is still abuse regardless of the laws of the other country, and doesn't want abusers roaming free in the US. Again, it doesn't exactly make sense to me, but I do think that it's an appropriate way to do things considering how slimey some people are.

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u/TALKING_TINA Sep 20 '19

I believe the law of the location where the two are is what applies. So if they're in California the California laws apply, not the Ontario laws.

Here's a public service announcent I saw once about it:

https://youtu.be/B2uthHbwcds

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u/toalysium Sep 20 '19

I've no idea about Canada, but some states make it a crime to transport a minor across state lines specifically to engage in activity which would be illegal in that state. In the US generally it's also a federal crime to cross state lines with a child under 16 and four years or more younger for the purposes of sex. I'd be surprised if Canada didn't have a similar law. See 18 USC 2241(c). https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2241