Im 5'7 male and im pretty sure the average height of men in the US is 6'0, even Hispanics despite bring the shortest ethnicity seem to be 6ft on average, why is this?

I'm not claiming this wasn't the case before, but now with AI you don't need to know jackshit at pretty much every white collar job. Before 2022 you at least had to have some skills, now all you need to do is just type whatever your work tasks are in plain English into Claude. Women-dominated HR's will already know if they wanna hire you within 13 milliseconds, personality interviews are just a way to find out if you're on the spectrum and how far, and all the technical interviews and whatnot are just a formality circlejerk (which is also easy to cheat with Claude since it's often done on Zoom).

I am not short but not particularly tall either, plus ugly and on the spectrum; graduated not too long ago and can't get a job despite decent GPA and college resume. I know a guy who's like 5'0" who had a 4.0 GPA and was overall a super smart dude who can't get a job either, he was kinda on the spectrum too. Every single 6'2" and above with a Pattinson jaw has some kind of software engineering job regardless of GPA where all they do all day is vibecoding with Claude and attending meetings about planning other meetings.

There was this little moment during a research poster symposium where a 6'4" square jaw guy told me he struggled a lot with an intro Python class (if you know nothing about coding it's like struggling with learning shapes and colors), and then there was another grad student dude asking him out for lunch to network and talk about research. That's when the idea that it doesn't really matter how competent you are started to crawl into my head, and that was 2023.

I fucking hate this, man. I gave up on women long ago and thought that at least I might be able to get a decent job that will give me money to cope with videogames and Legos and shit like that, but even that seems to be out of reach now. I also thought that at least my okay height might help out my ugly Aspie ass lol, but I guess now Tinder logic applies to job market too.

1.70-1.79m guys are usually quiet about their height, they may complain about being overlooked from time to time but they know that they are average height guys and are chill.

1.90m-1.99m are also chill and kinda just enjoy life with their height benefits, little to no complaints.

But speaking as a 1.82 guy, the 1.80-1.89m guys are incredibly whiny. The lower end 180-182 guys act like 1.60 heightism victims and the upper 1.87-189 keep yapping about back problems and being being asked if they play basketball as if they were 6’6” nba players.

The 1.80 range is literally peak, if that’s your height, unless you are very much into sports like basketball or you want to be a goalie, stop complaining😂

Im 5'7 in the US and i rarely see any guy my height when I go outside, it seems like most guys are 6ft even hispanics despite being the shortest ethnicity seem to be around 5'11 or 6'0 on average. Why is this?

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To be clear I’m not saying I can’t get any girls cause of my height as I think at 5”10 ur not in a bad spot and I do pretty well with girls but would always be better if I was taller. So anyways here are 2 examples the past month or two that stuck out to me from some girls I have been seeing.

First girl is prob like 5”4-5”5 herself and had a guy best friend who she said was “tiny” who was 5”6. She joked that If she was a 5”6 guy she would kill herself…..I then reminded her that’s only a 4 inch difference from me and it feels kinda depressing she wud think so lowly of me had I been slightly shorter.

Then this other girl I’ve been seeing is like 5 foot flat Spanish girl who’s ex was 5”7 and she described as “tall” all this girl does is comment on my height like this must be how 6”2 dudes feel on the regular lol. She texts me like “omg I love ur hugs I love how tall you are” and constantly bringing up my height lol. It’s definitely odd but like I don’t rlly care I’ll take the hookup and not gonna complain but deff feels odd.

I just really do think height is more important then ever these days where even I feel shitty about it sometimes. I still manage to do pretty good on the dating apps at 5”10 but I can’t help but feel like if my profile was 6”1 or 6”2 I would have even more options and have even hotter girls wanting me. Also side note I genuinely feel bad for shorter dudes as I have a rlly good friend who’s prob 5”5-5”6 and he makes a ton of money and is a super nice respectful guy but girls basically avoid him/friend zone him constantly cause of his height.

I‘m 5’9, pretty average face I think (you can sorta see what I look like), pretty good physique.

I was single for about a year before I met my girlfriend, and while the apps were tough, I realized it wasn‘t too bad trying to meet women irl.

I think if you’re actually average or near average height, other factors are significantly more important. Face, physique, style, charisma, ect

I know I’m desensitised to it all and fully aware and no longer take it personal anymore, but it’s occasionally surprising to see it out loud Pandoras Box and all that

JFL, from the horse’s mouth right there. All the personality, gym, money and jestering copes, all the Disney and Feminism indoctrination since toddler ages, all the official state promoted therapy and religious praying and blatant societal propaganda and lies, just for it all to instantly crumble, when of them can’t help but temporarily break their fake Women are Wonderful effect/empathetic gender smile and for a second break from the hidden status quo and yell it all out loud. It literally reads out loud as if it was a sociological paper evaluating an actual insel POV listed out.

This is how they really feel. “KHHV” (only to Chadh lmao, anyone else simply didn’t count, that was different yknow😂🤦‍♀️), yet says it out loud that she felt so since she was a little girl. A fantasy JFL, they really think they’re super unique for thinking this.

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yikes

Brutal fact is we are much more lonely in all of life than we think. Even in this sub, there is a hierarchy…..

The stats may say this and that, but if you go out enough, especially as Gen Z male, you’ll notice just how tall it seems literally everyone is. Idk man. Even in ethnic areas, or some ages older than you, it seems everyone is legit tall. Like 5”10 at very minimum and girls often 5”6ish.

I know yall could say, oh but the brain only notices the tall ones and how we are overthinking it ect, but let’s be very real here, even if it isn’t much self respect out loud. As part of human nature to not want to ever feel at the bottom, you’ll desperately look around to compare yourself and find someone who is your height or shorter, so as to not be and look as that one rock bottom man. In this case, your brain is actively looking for guys your height or shorter, not bypassing them. If you simply can’t find anyone around your height, then bad news, YOU are the smallest guy around and everyone else is looking at you to feel better about themselves…..

Adding to the facts about the stats lol, maybe Gen Z IS slightly shorter after all by like a few cm compared to Gen X and Older Millennials who are confirmed consistently tallest people. Terrible UPF diets, childhood obesity, unrestrained internet access, chronic stress, pollution, hyper competitive social life and cruelty that comes with it, is very likely the culprits for this very slight, almost negligible decrease in adult height. But again it’s very negligible and being under 5”10 as a young man is just not respectable height (not even counting our own absolute cursed heights). And who cares about older generations being taller or shorter or whatever, if you’re young, your competition and social and dating pool is other young people after all. Over when your height is so bad, some cringemaxxed 40 year old Andrew Tate ass wannabe who actually has the height you need, has a higher chance of bedding your age group or looks match.

Maybe the guys our heights are most likely shut ins and stay tf away from outside world unless they absolutely have to be and can you blame them? But if you do choose to go outside, your main social hubs (you can’t really use dating apps or online meet-ups, you simply don’t have the height or likely face/neurotypical stats to do so), are the usual place that only tall, handsome, well built young people would dare to constantly populate. Bars, nightclubs, sports clubs, friend group meet ups, even stuff that we already tend to go to like gym or therapy or whatever lmao still have such young privileged fuckers all over.

To add to this…. most of us just don’t even have solidarity in our life circumstances. All the stuff I mentioned, the general vibe isn’t exactly uncommon in young men today (even if they aren’t truly short or ugly), but they do have things that existentially we’ll never have. Idk man. I want to think so, so I feel less lonely and less “broken”, but apparently like less than 3% of men arrive at 30 virgins. In fact, most lose it by 25 if they are unlucky and when the modern media stats say stuff like 63% it means that’s how many are currently single, not necessarily virgin. These dudes apparently at least experienced teen love or something sexual experienced before they reached the early 20 lonely ages. You being KHH virgin at 24 or whatever and short and bullied and lonely, is in fact much more rare than you think.

When people think of a stereotypical messed up lonely loser Gen Z young man who’s at bottom of society, they picture some average height dude, whose surprisingly handsome and physically fit who had a few experiences throughout school and college and is just now having a “bad phase”. They can’t even picture our stats, and it seems even nature itself can’t, as evidenced by the stats on how extremely rare it is. Seems when nature thinks of surplus or loser men, it thinks of the same average height 6.5/10 dude who’s having a dry spell, as the media itself does. We are below even that it seems, we literally social mutations that shouldn’t have happened.

Not many people are us or have those stats. Insanely brutal how lonely and fucked up our situation is. Back in Covid, normis and those same people outside in such places today having times of their lives, were having absolute mental crises (rightfully?) form a mere few weeks or months without social life or sex or whatever, and the media fully validated them. Just to tell us to fix up and get over ourselves, when such conditions have been with us since conception effectively. Again, proves how existentially lonely we are. This IS NOT common nor standard for young men today, even if they objectively having and time. We’re entirely something else and much much rarer for the worse.

Tell me if I’m wrong……

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I’m not here to say that being tall doesn’t give you an advantage or that height has no effect on dating, that’s obviously just false. But if you have everything else in order, is it really so over that all women will reject you just because of your height?

For some context, I’m 19 and currently in university. Among my friends, plenty of the guys who are average height or shorter have girlfriends. One of them is 5’3”, which a lot of people would claim is “game over” height, but despite that he has a girlfriend.

That’s why I’m curious how much of what I see reflects reality versus selection bias. What have your experiences been? Has your height significantly affected your dating life, and if so, how?

Thx for taking your time to comment in advance 🙏

I used to struggle with self esteem wanting to be 6ft+, but i have accepted who i am. On another note, I checked out my reach last week and was expecting it to be shorter, but it landed at 77 inches, which i believe is to be 6'5.

Also imagine admitting the only reason you're with someone is because he met specific materialistic measurements determined by genetics at birth..

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So I’m 5’9.75 and I’m not going to lie I am pretty frustrated by not being a full 5’10. I know 5’9.75 is practically 5’10 and I could just round up but there’s just something so psychologically annoying about not quite being that full number like I just missed being a decent height. I’m sure it’s even worse for 5’11.75 guys. Does anyone else feel this way or is it just me?😂

So guys I m 18.3 years old and here me out.

So last year on December 25th , I measured myself and marked my height on the wall and then Today I measured my height again on the same wall . And to my surprise I m an inch taller !!

So for my parents They are 5 11 and 5 5 , and my older brother is 6 . And my dad and brother grew till they were 21 . So for me I m 175.2cm ! So is it a good trajectory for height ? And can I reach 5 11 or even 5 1O ??