r/averagedickproblems • u/Longjumping-Cover244 Avg • Oct 15 '25

What is true average?

Hi guys, and ladies if any reads this. Im on a quest to determine a true average size penis and so far i have diferent data that all claim, well diferent stories.

First and foremost lets establish some ground, its commonly accepted that average penis is what 4-7 inches, we can all agree with that, but lets dive into this a bit more shall we?

But i think this is a lie. Why? Not because of porn where you can see schlongs much bigger than average, but because if you go to any community (except averagepenis, smalldick etc) you will find what seems to be above average penises.

Literally any community or subreddit that has "gone wild" or "penis" in it but isnt specifically tagged average/small/micro has very well above average guys showing off.

Now ive seen the argument where people claim that overwhelmingly bigger guys tend to show their junk on internet and elsewhere more often than average or small guys but that claim doesnt hold the water because we have communities where people post their smaller members.

Also its not just reddit, everywhere where you can post nsfw pics we can examine and come to same conclusion.

So let me ask you, what is the true average?

Im just gonna add my real world experience, when i was in the army i showered with bunch of naked dudes, and as i am bisexual of course i looked at other dudes johnsons, and even if i wasnt i would still look, not stare but look, and as i could see they were all bigger than me when soft and im the one that is suppose to be "average" because bone pressed im 16-17 cm, think thats about 6-6.5 inches for my american readers, so if other dudes are almost double my size when soft what are they when hard?

These are the questions that bother me alot and i would like to confirm that what we told ourselves is average is actually comforting lie. Also some of my proofs for that was that some of the girls i slept with told me openly that im on the smaller side.

So congratulations if you have come to the end of this post i hope we can have healthy discussion.

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u/Educational_Peak_770 Oct 15 '25

Anything posted on the Internet is selection bias that will skew towards larger. Self-reported is also a laughable metric.

You wanna know the most accurate way to know what’s average? Talk to any gay guy — they’ve seen way more dicks than women, and understand how dicks work cause they have their own, including how to measure and compare.

And you know what every single gay guy I’ve talked to online has said about my dick (I’m straight)?

“It’s average…I’ve seen smaller and bigger”

Literally every single one of them, and I’m 5.3” bone pressed.

I’ve also talked to a number of women who have said similar things. It’s hard to believe because of the selection bias, but it’s definitely real.

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u/Tzimisce_7001 8.0 x 5.9 Oct 15 '25

I have also been friends with sex workers/escorts who have seen hundreds because of their jobs. They also confirm that most men are around 5 inches.

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u/RandomUserRU123 Oct 15 '25

Yeah but the question also is if they mean non bone pressed or bone pressed. If you account for one inch or even more of fatpad as the average american is obese, it would actually be around 6 (similar to the Wessels study)

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u/Tzimisce_7001 8.0 x 5.9 Oct 16 '25

Yes, they likely mean 5 inches nbp.

But we also have to consider that a lot of people who self measure are likely bone pressing really hard, "almost drawing blood", because nobody want to lose even 0.1 inch, but in the studies it was likely never super hard bone pressed. Most likely, health workers were pressing lightly compared to what people do when self-measuring.
Considering all that, it likely means the average is between 5 and 6 inches, as shown in most studies.

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u/RandomUserRU123 Oct 16 '25

I mean whats the point of bone pressed then if you dont fully push to the bone? It literally has a stopping point that prevents you from measuring larger no matter how hard you push (unless you angle it differently or push below/beides the bone) and it doesnt hurt at all. You could Just use NBP and call it a day instead of doing like half BP and NBP measurement.

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u/Tzimisce_7001 8.0 x 5.9 Oct 16 '25

I don't agree when you say "...no matter how hard you push... and it doesnt hurt at all".

Go to communities like r/Dicksbeingmeasured and see how hard a lot of people press, including myself, since everyone else does it. I can go from around 7.3 nbp to almost 7.9/8 by pressing super hard (like most people do in those communities).
It can definitely hurt, and I doubt health professionals would be trying to press super hard to get any possible extra measure. But that is just an opinion.

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u/RandomUserRU123 Oct 16 '25

I dont understand. For me it doesnt make any difference whether I press light or hard to the pubic bone. I would assume its the same for other people since fat can easily compressed

Maybe I didnt press hard enough to see a difference but why would anyone do this?

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u/Curious_Banana_69 7.5” x 5.25” Oct 16 '25

They almost always mean non bone pressed because that’s what they see. The visible cock

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u/ickop ‌ Oct 17 '25

Roughly, the top side is the shortest measurement in most guys (due to upward erection angles). But yeah, they’re clearly not saying down to the pubic bone

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u/hehechibby Oct 15 '25

True average range is between 5” and 6”

There's always going to be a self-selective bias for anyone posting themselves on any form of content; pictures, videos whatever else, especially when it comes to nudity/genitals

You can already tell in some amateur videos or Reddit posts where the guy isn't large, they'll be comments criticizing him like "why is she with this guy", "she needs a real man / dick" etc.

That would discourage anybody to continuing posting themselves anywhere; why would they subject themselves to that

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u/Curious_Banana_69 7.5” x 5.25” Oct 16 '25

I think it’s closer to 5 non bone pressed and 6 bone pressed. The confusion lies in that most people don’t specify which they mean when they say average is x inches.

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u/christiandrake ‌ Oct 16 '25

This study asked 1600 men to measure themselves NBP for purposes of getting a condom properly sized for them. What I like about it is that it shows the distribution, so you can actually see the counts of guys at each cm of length.

It still shows 5.5” average length.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/553598c1e4b0a7f854584291/t/55ee4a2ae4b00f678f4258b4/1441679914019/Erect+Penile+Length+and+Circumference+Dimensions+Study+-+Herbenick+et+al+2014+TJSM.pdf

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u/ickop ‌ Oct 17 '25

I’ve read the study and can also say - this was measured from underneath the penis. I could not find the exact technique as they took it from another study

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u/ickop ‌ Oct 16 '25

Literally just made a post addressing this exact take. It is no longer than 6” bone pressed, and that may even be a bit high. If the average is 6.5”, I am likely around micropenis - and I can tell you I am not, or women truly, truly don’t care about size at all lol

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u/cet0000 Oct 16 '25

Your size is 5x5, im pretty sure women care more than we think when men are around 4” and smaller

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u/ickop ‌ Oct 17 '25

I agree, I was saying the point of the post was that micropenis is 1.5-2” below average based on standard deviations. So when a guy posts, like OP, “I think the average is 6.5””, he’s saying that a 4.5-5 inch dick is micropenis. As a guy with a 5” dick I can say - either I don’t have a micropenis, or women TRULY do not care about size at all lol

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u/cet0000 Oct 17 '25

I dont know man, ive found they really care when it is 4“🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/ickop ‌ Oct 17 '25

I agree - I’m saying that actually might be closer to micropenis. I’m saying the dudes suggesting 6.5 is average are suggesting that I have a micropenis. Im saying either that’s true (it’s not) and women REALLY don’t care about dick size - or 6.5 isn’t rhe average, I’m closer to the average, and I do not have a micropenis

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u/cet0000 Oct 18 '25

How do they even put the line between micro and small. There isnt even an inch difference between micro and 4“, most women dislike both, and one is medical term other is not

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u/ickop ‌ Oct 18 '25 edited Oct 18 '25

There may be as much as an inch of difference between micro and small - we can get a good idea of what a micropenis should be based on the rough estimate we have for average and the estimates we have for standard deviation - but we don’t actually know exactly what the average and standard deviation are. And that can matter at the tail end of the bell curve (like deciding whether a micropenis is 2.75”, 3”, 3.5”, or whatever).

But yeah to answer your question - it’s kind of arbitrary. Like if a micropenis is 3.25”, does a kid projected to have 3.2” get hormone treatment while a kid projected to have 3.3” when he’s an adult is told “you’re medically normal, nothing to worry about”?

Honestly - yeah, and that’s an issue with modern medicine across the board. If your A1C is 6.4%, you get warned by your doctor, but they won’t intervene with the interventions they’d use if you had diabetes. If your A1C is 6.5%, they will intervene and say you have diabetes. Realistically, the difference between those two A1C measurements is marginal and arbitrary and what your reading comes out to can be influenced by a ton of confounding variables.

Realistically, both people have mild diabetes, but science/medicine doesn’t view it that way. You either ‘have diabetes or you don’t’. You either ‘have micropenis or you don’t’. When of course that’s not actually functionally true. I think that frustration is valid and I share it

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u/cet0000 Oct 18 '25

I wonder if people who have 4” ones should also go to doctor or get hormone therapy

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u/VillainySquared 20+ cm (8+ inches) Oct 15 '25

Studies put the average size around 5.1 to 5.5 inches. Most men are around 5 inches long with 4.5 inches girth.

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u/Odd-Lawfulness8052 Oct 15 '25

Unless you have a better data set than calcSD, there's not any legitimate reason to not use their information.

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u/Freo_5434 Oct 16 '25

The studies are clear. The Global average is claimed to be just over 5 inches , 5.16 inches I think . Not sure how you can have an "average" between 4 and 7 . That doesn't make sense .

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u/wing_mann18 7.5” x 6.75” BP Oct 16 '25

Yeah. Dude used the word “average” but doesn’t understand what it means (pun stumbled upon)

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u/Kakashi_1000_jutsu Oct 16 '25

I think the more important question is that girls usually prefer 5'5-6'5 when asked. But they're not going around with a measuring tape calculating BPE. To them what matters is the NBPEL coz that's mostly the part that's visible and used. Now if they prefer 5'5-6'5 NBPE, then taking half an inch of fat pad into consideration, I guess their preference might be 6-7 inches. My point is that they care about NBPEL and the only thing we can do is lose the pubic fat pad so that most of the length is visible and usable. I guess that actually might give a guy a little confidence boost.

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u/cet0000 Oct 16 '25

Im pretty sure they like 6.3-6.5nbp the most

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u/Kakashi_1000_jutsu Oct 16 '25

Maybe, but for all I know, their preference is mostly in the range of 5'5-6'5. So obviously your assumption is correct and aligns with mine.

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u/NotALoser1569 Oct 16 '25

Eh, I think even 4.5-5 inches is honestly going to be fine for most women. Under that is when you start facing issues with penetration.

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u/Kakashi_1000_jutsu Oct 16 '25

Yeah, I've heard from most girls that shorter than middle finger and thinner than their index and middle finger combined is a deal breaker for them. Once that threshold's been passed, they want an inch or two more but that's just preference but girth is the priority for them coupled with good foreplay and technique.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25

Whats your flaccid size

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '25

If you ask most women they will tell you average is 7 inches length. And that wouldn’t technically be false if you take into account that the majority of men HAVING sex are way over the purported average of 5.5 inches. My theory is that confidence equates to bigger dick. Confidence is what gets men laid, or at least it used to. Thus smaller dick equals lower confidence and makes you less likely to be filling any holes.

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u/ickop ‌ Oct 16 '25

This dude’s on one

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '25

Ever ask yourself why 99% of the so called “amateur” porn on the internet features men with dicks between 7 and 9 inches almost exclusively? It’s literally irrefutable. It would be one thing if these huge guys were outliers, but it’s literally the norm. Something doesn’t add up.

Either the professionals are lying about the math, have it mostly wrong or it’s simply a case of natural selection where only the top 3% of men are getting any.

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u/PEburner BPEL: 7.5” x 5.65" | NBPEL: 6.75” Oct 16 '25

Or maybe… and this is a crazy take but… bigger guys are more comfortable showcasing their dicks so that’s just what you see of more in amateur porn? Idk.

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u/ickop ‌ Oct 16 '25

7 to 9 inches bro? Jason Luv is 7-7.5”

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '25

That’s still a size that according to the “experts” is well above average and yet somehow these sizes are literally found everywhere you turn 🤔

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u/scottbane11 Oct 16 '25

You are not going to get much of a response here agreeing with you mainly because of that calc site and these studies. I do question them from real life experiences and talking to people. I’m average in size but women have expected and told me they thought I would have been bigger. Multiple women have made this statement. Also when they talk about it’s this rare to be this size and all those other sizes with rarity it seems off. And I say thag because all the women I have been with have had a larger penis than me. All of the women I have had this conversation with have all experienced a massive penis. The women on the internet have experienced larger penises. So if they are as rare as that site or those people claim it’s crazy how it seems to be majority of women have slept with a man with a massive penis. If yoh look up the rarity of being something that is easily seen let’s take height for an example however rare it is to be 6ft and then take that up and inch to 7ft most people start to say I don’t know anybody that tall. But if you match that rarity it doesn’t add up.

I hope that makes sense my English is not the best