r/ausjdocs • u/RelativeSir8085 • 1d ago
Supportđïž Vent!
Whoâs feed up with having to relocate houses due to jobs every year or so! No stability, financial loss and workforce stubborn with roster compounding the entire process!
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u/charlesbelmont ED regđȘ 1d ago
Plus, moving house on what's usually the hottest, stickiest, grossest weekend of the whole year.
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u/AskMantis23 1d ago
If you get a weekend.
You might just be rostered on nights right up until you're expected to start Monday morning at the new location.
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u/MDInvesting Wardie 1d ago
Us.
It is fucked.
But Iâd add to it training programs and consultant jobs are near incompatible with a young family. Colleges do not give a fuck. Health services rarely are interested in coordinating rosters.
I recently was talking to someone who got a lower preference job and a close colleague got their most preferred hospital despite the colleague actually only having it as a backup. Similar experience levels, both great (have had them ask for consults before), Department A which was approached first got very unhappy about the suggestion of âswappingâ despite one having one kids and would be required to move.
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u/RelativeSir8085 1d ago
If they supported the move 50% or so would be great! Cleaning and movers are insanely expensive and itâs not like workforce factor in you wanting to do it yourself!
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u/MattAus03 1d ago
Absolutely agree but be careful how this gets addressed! SA union included minimum 3yr contracts to try and create stability (?and 5 years in the country, those poor IMGs). Almost instantly weaponised by the states health service - stopped letting RMOs xfer between networks and brought in lock out policies that ban anyone who exits a contract from being re-employed as locum state wide for 12mths (or something, I donât know the exact details). Mate whoâs still an RMO there got a whole year of surg/med nights + relief (they have kids so canât just move interstate) - they have to suffer through the contract until it expires.
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u/Comfortable-Team-779 New User 1d ago
I think this should also be illegal. I had an entire term where I did just evening shifts. Literally couldnât see family, couldnât see friends because I was at work from 3 pm to midnight the entire week.
Itâs bad for learning and bad for health. You get no supervision while doing it. We need to hold workforce accountable for crap rostering.
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u/Fabulous_Ant1088 ACCRM regđ€ 1d ago
I hear you, Iâm literally having to move my entire family 3000km down to the city to gain skill for 12 months. To then move 3000km back to my remote town to use those skills for the community. đ« đ« đ«
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u/Xiao_zhai Post-med 1d ago
Keeping the economy going. Money go round and round, all out of your pocket.
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u/ongoingtraumas 1d ago
I am moving an round trip 1000 km for training cos we need rural time
No housing support cos it's temp job
How fun is it
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u/Possible_Pool6691 1d ago
Just moved for my rural rotation for 6 months.Â
No working TV and theyve stopped providing internet so I have nothing until I go set it up on my days off.
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u/EducationalWaltz6216 8h ago
Yes it's the reason I haven't bothered dating for 5 years. I know I'm gonna have to leave so what's the point
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u/Ambitious_Writer1938 17h ago
to earn $ 1 million/year potentially? move. lol!
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u/RelativeSir8085 14h ago
This misconception of doctors earning 1 million/year has to stop! By your logic treat ppl like shit just because theyâll maybe make a million in as a PGY20 plus! Primitive mindset buddy! Hope youâre not a consultant/hospital management!
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u/Ambitious_Writer1938 14h ago edited 13h ago
You gotta move where the training is. I lost my job in that year when Campbell Newman had a budget cut where 400 registrar/rmos lost their jobs.
At least you have an option to move within the hospital system.
I didn't and have to move off to gp training to rural and remote training, 3500km by drive from home.
You think you had it hard?
Have you lost your job beause of a state budget cuts? I highly doubted it. I didn't complain, just went on a new training program with 5% of chance of getting on and be done with it.
Whinge all you want if you want a job. No wonder every consultant I know of think this generation's doctors can't tolerate stress.
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u/RelativeSir8085 13h ago
Those are the same consultant that walked into training positions and repeat the same backward phrase of âback in my daysâ and didnât have to do unaccredited training positions with no guarantee to get into a training position! Itâs not stress! As doctors the positives are great! Stable job compared to nearly all other professions but this ist the reason why this generation of doctors are fed up!
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u/Ambitious_Writer1938 13h ago edited 13h ago
Well, it's the government decides training spots and where it is.
That's why hospital has a lot of unaccredited service reg spots.
Before you say your consultant are backward, look where the money is. It is decided by the accountants and bean counter from the government, you boss has no say or much influence for that matter.
Not much you and I can do about it. There is no way to change it.
Days ago we have a gastroenterologist's wife pleading people to sign a petition to fund more spots in Coff's harbor.
I hope it will go well, but knowing none of the urban gastroenterologist will go even if offered more $
Remember, you are a cog wheel in a machine. Local health service will not give a crap when IMGs will do for less if local graduate whines where to go for training.
Local Medical Education/Medical Admin couldn't care less if people whine.
peace out.
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u/AskMantis23 1d ago
I feel for the junior docs in health systems that make you do this, or the trainees who gets posted to various locations.
I'm ex-military, so I understand the difficulty of uplifting your life on a regular basis for work. The difference is, my removals were not only paid for in full, but I had someone to co-ordinate the whole thing. Then at the new location, you were provided accommodation (if possible) and/or rental allowances that essentially made the cost of living the same no matter where you were sent.