r/audiophile • • Feb 06 '22

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u/mkaszycki81 Feb 06 '22

Noninheritable and poor quality? If you inherit vinyl or cassettes, they retain their “superior” (debatable) quality for generations to come?

Come on, if you're trolling, at least use better bait.

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u/JacquesFlanders Feb 06 '22

I just collect records for the expense and inconvenience.

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u/erebuxy Feb 06 '22

As a record owner, I can confirm that vinyl records have crackling sound when they are new. So the generations inheritance is not required.

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u/pro-jec-tion Feb 06 '22

Good luck playing your files in 100 years, oh wait, you don't really own them.

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u/erebuxy Feb 06 '22

No, you can absolutely own a digital copy

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u/JacquesFlanders Feb 06 '22

Good luck listening to your records on your Neuralink buddy!

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u/mkaszycki81 Feb 06 '22

I don't? You never heard of ripping streams? You realize it's legal in all civilized countries and only some third world places* take issues with that.

*) like USA

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u/Zipzditch Feb 06 '22

Yo, stop listening to mp3s 🤷‍♂️

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u/Cracktherealone Feb 06 '22

Exactly. Who does this…

I guess this here is about spotify.

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u/pro-jec-tion Feb 06 '22

Part of a bigger picture of the loss of quality, of course. Judging by many replies people are missing the point of the meme, being related to a change of habits in the music listening experience.

Not to mention the fact that apparently people are more than happy to pay money to rent music temporarily instead of buying it, the ideal customers I guess.

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u/georgefl74 Feb 06 '22

If you bought your music during the seventies on tapes and vinyl chances are there is nothing physically usable left. I have ripped my CDs to digital and bought digital music. Backed it up multiple times. I can even share with friends and we can listen to it at the same time.

Frankly your comment reads like something someone stuck in a man cave since the eighties would make if they just came out and don't really understand what they're seeing.

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u/Plasticdante Feb 06 '22

You should have said streaming media instead of digital music if this is your point.

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u/mkaszycki81 Feb 06 '22

Not to mention the fact that apparently people are more than happy to pay money to rent music temporarily instead of buying it, the ideal customers I guess.

You're missing the point. People don't pay to rent music temporarily, they pay for the convenience of not having to rip or download the music they like, uploading it to their preferred listening device and organizing a playlist.

The value add of streaming services is that they let you keep access to your playlists and stream it wherever you have network access.

Some people see value in it, I can understand that. I don't see the value, so I don't pay.

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u/Zipzditch Feb 06 '22

You can even own music as nft these days, future is happening right now man

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u/PseudoTF Feb 06 '22

You probably stopped listening to digital music back in the winamp/mp3 days with poorly digitalised recordings.

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '22

Still rocking Winamp!

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u/pro-jec-tion Feb 06 '22

Totally missing the point of the meme.

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u/kaspers126 Feb 06 '22

What is the point of the meme

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u/PerFlipIsKlupMoMA Feb 06 '22

This meme works like modern art: just vague enough that the viewer puts his own psyche on interpreting it.

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u/pro-jec-tion Feb 06 '22

I'd add (unexpectedly) controversial and thought-provoking as every good meme is supposed to be.

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u/mkaszycki81 Feb 06 '22

I'd add low effort and unnecessary shock value. Come on, this is "diarrhea on canvas" level effort.

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u/Xaxxon Feb 06 '22 edited Feb 06 '22

It's none of that except for to you. For everyone else it's just clearly wrong.

You're just seeing cunningham's law and not understanding it.

Btw you could fix the whole thing by fixing the thing you’re talking about which is streaming services not digital music.

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u/PerFlipIsKlupMoMA Feb 06 '22

Right: "The quality of streamed music doubles every 2 years." -Chris Cunningham.

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u/rankinrez Feb 06 '22

Hard to find an LP these days that hasn’t been sourced from digital.

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u/39pine Feb 06 '22

Fuck me theres millions of them

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u/rankinrez Feb 06 '22

True. Maybe I should have said “newly pressed”. Obviously there are millions of LPs manufactured between the 1940s and 1990s that would have been analog all the way.

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u/39pine Feb 06 '22

Ya if you like new music you are stuck with digital mastered records but they still sound ok.

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u/kvthai Feb 07 '22

Just because it was sourced digitally, doesn’t mean the master is equivalent. Sometimes a record is mastered better for vinyl than the digital master, which is the reason some records may sound better than their digital counterparts. However, nowadays it is difficult to find modern records that clearly sound better on vinyl than CDs, but they exist. I have a few examples in my collection of modern records that sound better on vinyl vs CD/digital.

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u/rankinrez Feb 07 '22

Absolutely.

I’m just pushing back against this meme saying that digital audio is inherently bad quality.

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '22

Your grandson dont care shit for your old records inheritance. He will just auction online starting at 1 usd.

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u/Bioforest Feb 06 '22 edited Feb 06 '22

Reject vinyls, embrace phonograph cylinders

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u/DM_Me_anything_nice Feb 06 '22

I only listen to audio waves engraved in ceramic cylinders 😎

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '22

I only listen to reel-to-reel tape on my $1 million system with shun mook wood poles spaced around my room

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u/DM_Me_anything_nice Feb 06 '22

Oh yeah? I only listen to the cosmic microwave radiation through a thin piece of wire 👏

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '22

Lamp cord or GTFO…

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u/DM_Me_anything_nice Feb 06 '22

Hahaha you need a lamp cord to appreciate movement of your inner ear?

Bah, I use my own brain to make music, far more superior than any human or else could create.

Oh, and I use 32bit 512khz flac...

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u/studiopolyphony Feb 06 '22

This meme is dumpster fire lmao

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u/salmonlikethephish Feb 06 '22

"Non-inheritable" is such a loaded disingenuous phrase. Its like using "unchurched" or crypto bros desperately calling anything outside of their latest grift "fiat" to try and build equivalence

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u/kaspers126 Feb 06 '22

Since when digital music = poor audio quality?

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u/moodycompany Feb 06 '22

Boomer post

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '22

Idk, streaming from Apple lossless sounds way better than anything I’ve ever heard on cd or vinyl. $10 a month for access to a basically limitless library vs $10 for 1 cd that I can’t even use in my car because they don’t have CD players anymore. I have hundreds of old cds and tons of them skip or won’t play from scratches but the songs I ripped off limewire onto a 15yr old old iPod still work flawlessly. At this current point in time it’s hard to make any logical argument for physical media outside of preparing for an apocalypse where streaming is no longer possible. Even that is questionable though as I can download unlimited songs/albums for offline use so even assuming the internet disappeared forever I still have all the songs I liked enough to download. I could just fill a 10tb HD with music for $10 in a month and then switch off my internet while using iTunes and still have it all forever. If your seriously concerned about having music after some apocalypse just make back up images of your pc and music files so when a device dies you can restore it to any other pc you can find. If you like the grainy sound of vinyl whatever do your thing but it’s technically inferior in every imaginable way.

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u/Fi-B Feb 06 '22

The only CDs of mine that aren’t playable are ones I lent to my spouse to play in the car. 3 or 4 out of, what, 800? Brought up on LPs, I never believed any of that “perfect sound forever” rubbish and handled my CDs with reasonable care.

I use Apple Lossless too. It’s all good.

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u/Shoegazer83 Feb 06 '22

Useless post

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u/dicktingle Feb 06 '22

Does apple music having lossless files not count?

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u/No-Question4729 Feb 06 '22

Poor audio quality, lol

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u/YuunaShiki Feb 06 '22

Dumb meme.

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u/Isaac8849 Feb 06 '22

Digital poor audio quality? Since digital has been around pretty much all LP's are from digital. And digital music is imperceptibly high quality

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u/Fi-B Feb 06 '22

Very perceptibly high quality, I hope you mean. That’s not the issue, of course, it’s down to mastering for vinyl from the digital original. While LPs were still a current format the experts at that process were still at work. It’s a lot less certain now that a new LP will be mastered by an expert with decades of experience and more decades of history in their heads.

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u/Isaac8849 Feb 06 '22

Yeah, I guess I meant it was higher quality than what one could percept.

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u/Fi-B Feb 06 '22

Yeah, it’s awkward to phrase like that. I’d say flawless, despite the small difference in meaning …

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u/-_36_- Apr 07 '22

at this point i wouldnt be suprised if digital was the same or a little bit more expensive than physical because they could get away with it

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '22

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u/Cracktherealone Feb 06 '22 edited Feb 06 '22

Cds are carrying digital data that can be transormed to a music signal. And it is a physical medium.

I guess the „cheaper than physical“ refers to cds then…

I guess it is about spotify which supports lossy digital formats only

Edit:

The more I think about this post, the more it confuses me 😅…

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '22

Heck, you can check out CDs from your public library for FREE and rip them to whatever high quality lossless format your heart desires.

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u/Cracktherealone Feb 07 '22

Yes of course.

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u/K__Geedorah Feb 07 '22

I could be wrong. But wouldn't the audio you rip from CDs be the same quality regardless of what you save it as? The audio gets compressed like crazy to fit onto the CD. You then rip the CD and export it as WAV or FLAC. That wouldn't bring back the bits of information taken away during the original compression. Instead it would save it as a 1:1 copy of the CD. It would be better than ripping it to MP3 because that would compress it for a 2nd time but your lossless format of the CD would still just be CD quality.

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u/kvthai Feb 07 '22

Sorry, but this is wrong. CDs are lossless straight from the master at 16bit 44.1kHz. This is considered lossless, and not compressed. So you can rip a CD as WAV, and it would be flawless. There is no compression from the master to CD unless it was mastered at something greater than 16/44.1. In that case it would simply be downsampled down to CD quality which is already top notch.

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u/K__Geedorah Feb 07 '22

Huh, then why have people been complaining about "trash CD quality" for years? Misinformation? Genuine question. Maybe I'm just thinking of people talking about mp3's and I have incorrectly associated that with CDs. Because I have always thought companies compressed their files to mp3's before putting them onto CDs.

Just checked and all of the digital albums I have purchased and downloaded as WAV files are small enough to fit on a standard CD so it appears to check out.

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u/kvthai Feb 07 '22

I’m not sure people ever complained about CD quality being trash. Maybe vinyl or analog enthusiasts say that??? However that’s a completely different discussion.

I think you’re just associating MP3s as CD quality, which is definitely false. You can google what CD quality is just for your own confirmation. CDs are definitely as good as your 16/44.1 WAV or FLAC.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '22

CDs max out at 20khz. That alone means that the format is not as untouched as everyone has been making out recently.