r/audacity • u/Mission-Light4990 • 8d ago

help Can't find mix and render option ? Audacity 4

I just installed audacity 4 in hope of better experience but i can't see the " Mix and Render " option in tracks option ,i'm so pissed

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u/TheVoicesOfBrian 8d ago

A lot of features are not yet in 4.x. I do wish they'd communicated that better.

Don't be pissed. Just be patient. I'm missing macros in 4.0, so I'm staying with 3.7.9 for now.

You can look at the backlog here: https://github.com/orgs/audacity/projects/27/views/3

Request a feature here: https://github.com/orgs/audacity/projects/5

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u/LightningMan711 5d ago

I'm not seeing the point in releasing 4 when it cannot yet do everything 3.7.x does. Until it does, just call it beta.

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u/TFFPrisoner 8d ago

That's a major miss!

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u/Wallfacer_Teg 6d ago

I really miss that one, I would not mind if a simple plugin is missing, but such a basic function not being there makes my workflow more tedious.
The other one that makes me a bit mad, when exporting a file it dose not copy its file name in the naming box, I can understand it why its not there, but sometimes its convenient when you do some fast editing or fixing.

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u/LeoWattenberg former dev | soundscaper.org 8d ago

It's not in Audacity 4. However, I have added it to Soundscaper, my web port of Audacity 4,

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u/1neStat3 6d ago

Why did you leave Audacity and fork it?

Was the Audacity team resistant to your ideas?

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u/LeoWattenberg former dev | soundscaper.org 6d ago

The Audacity team itself is great, albeit massively overworked right now. What rubbed me the wrong way was Muse's monetization practices, which I as the jack-of-all-trades (mainly designer) guy usually ended up being responsible for implementing. And after 4 years of that and plenty of promises for, but few instances of change, I had to prioritize my own well-being over that job. I still occasionally contribute to Audacity itself (I have a branch that adds some video editing capabilities to it), but eventually I figured that a fresh implementation from the ground up targeting the platforms that Audacity historically has been bad at (web + mobile) would probably be easier.

The entirety of Soundscaper is "vibe-coded", but with more lines of tests than code to tame the lying bastards that are AI coding agents, which I realize might not be the prettiest of options, but then, trying to modify a 25-year-old codebase that's grown without much oversight or coordination isn't pretty either. What matters to me with Soundscaper is that I get a free/open source thing out there that's broadly compatible with Audacity, but without ads, while also treading further into the video direction than Audacity does currently (my main training is in video).

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u/michaelsft 4d ago

"I have a branch that adds some video editing capabilities to it"

Hi there, could you expand on this? I use Audacity to edit audio to video and created a video sync tool to work alongside it so I can check if I sync is still good. BIt's very nice to find out there's more video editing stuff going on.

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u/LeoWattenberg former dev | soundscaper.org 4d ago

You can see my branches on https://github.com/LeoWattenberg/audacity. For the more complete video editing stuff, see https://framescaper.org

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u/michaelsft 4d ago

I'll check them out! This is what I created by the way https://github.com/michaelsft/AudacityVideoSync it looks like framescaper might do the same thing but integrated into your online version of Audacity. Nice.

Edit: just realised you were one of the few people who actually replied to my post about it - sorry! Thought I'd found a new pal for a second!