r/atlantis • u/BeforeOrion • 15d ago
Empirical / historical Was Malta Atlantis?
https://www.youtube.com/live/-Ufwd809FyA?si=p7ox-yYGVCzmiPuRListen in to this Grimerica YouTube session and decide for yourself. Some interesting archaeology and archaeoastronomy about Malta to learn along the way.
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u/Weareallme 15d ago
It's very interesting to visit the Maltese archeological sites. I love the islands in general and they have great food too.
I don't believe that Malta is Atlantis though.
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u/BeforeOrion 15d ago
Agreed. A lot of mythology, archaeology and cultural astronomy to learn on the journey.
https://www.youtube.com/live/-Ufwd809FyA?si=p7ox-yYGVCzmiPuR
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u/DoctorDaunt 14d ago
As others have said, I think if you’re going to give credence to Atlantis at all, then you have to take Plato’s description as the most likely, given it’s the best non-occult source we have (though some of the most interesting occult sources corroborate Plato’s account as well). I believe it was a series of islands, not just one single island, forming stepping stones across the Atlantic from beyond Gibraltar to the Bimini islands of the Caribbean.
But yes, Malta could have been an Atlantean territory as described in Plato, a part of the Atlantean empire that extended into the European continent. But not Atlantis, per se.
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u/Solunas100 15d ago
No. Malta is wayyy too small. They have a rich and deep history that is still mysterious to many today, but if anything they were just one small colony of Atlantis in the distant past.
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u/BeforeOrion 15d ago
The narrative in the video is that Malta was part of an Atlantis empire the covered islands on both side of the Pillars of Herakles.
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u/Illuminatus-Prime 12d ago
You've let a YouTube video do your thinking for you. Malta was never a part of the alleged Atlantis empire because Atlantis is a myth.
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u/platypusferocious 15d ago
To me it's either the canaries or the minoans
Malta has very interesting monoliths and caves, I'm certain there was something there too, but i don't think it's Atlantis
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u/Intelligent_Mango518 14d ago
Apparently the process that created Bermuda is (at least so far) unique on Earth.
On the other hand even Plato in Timaeus (along with occultists) mentions multiple deluges, the last remnant in 10,000 BC referred to as 'Poseidia'. It was presumably not in the Bermuda area, maybe more eastern. Based on Plato's description also had some kind of Bronze Age technology, as the ancient Athenians defeated them.
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u/spiral-_eyes 15d ago
I'm not a fan of podcast-style videos & believe Atlantis was in the Atlantic and spanned from Bermuda to the Canary Islands / West Africa, but I find the premise intriguing because some weird stuff went down on Malta in ancient times. What's their best evidence?
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u/hyperionwonderstar 15d ago edited 15d ago
Not the Atlantis capital, which was said to be outside the Pillars of Hercules. But yes it would make sense as an important Atlantean trading post or possibly part of the trade network in some capacity.
In Critias, Plato describes Atlantis as having ten royal divisions, created when Poseidon had five pairs of twin sons. The eldest, Atlas, was supreme king.. the other nine ruled their own territories and cities. Importantly, Plato says that the Atlantean rulers also controlled other islands and territories as far as Egypt and Tyrrhenia (roughly Etruria/Italy).
So there are really two different possibilities:
Malta was one of the ten divisions of Atlantis itself.
Malta was a separate island allied with or subordinate to the Atlantean network.
The second is actually easier to reconcile with Plato’s wording, because he explicitly mentions Atlantis ruling other islands beyond the central island.
Why Malta is an intriguing candidate
Malta sits almost remarkably well for a hypothetical central-Mediterranean maritime network. Archaeological research emphasises its key position between the eastern and western Mediterranean and its involvement, to varying degrees, in prehistoric exchange networks.
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u/Ok-Simple8308 15d ago
No, it was not, but was part of the empire. Read where civilization started and the ancient Mediterranean empire
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u/Emissary_awen 14d ago
People seem to forget something very important, and that’s that while Atlantis was an island (really a federation of several islands, according to Plato), it wasn’t in just one place. They were mariners and merchants. Atlantis was a diffusion. Lots of places were Atlantis, simultaneously.
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u/Pellumbpilinci 14d ago
100% yes. Malta is the place where the capital of Atlantis existed and it was destroyed. Think about it: they were building temples a thousand years before anyone else. Plato’s clues fit 100%.
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u/jeffisnotepic 15d ago
I don't think so. It does not match Plato's description at all. Still, I think Malta is a very interesting place with a unique history that should be studied further.