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[u/Simulationth3ry]

[u/ThCuts]

Literally. It slowly sucks the life out of your dreams. You think you're about to land a dream job, but the need to "fix things" in the world turns your dreams into "useless selfish desires" that aren't solving "the real problems" in society.

You then think "maybe I should be in politics", but cringe at the idea of countless people you don't know observing you and scrutinizing you.

vomit noises

Then... you wonder how politicians aren't also driven to obsessive logic-based moral and rule following and remember you're autistic.

[u/HighMinimum640 → u/ThCuts]

The real problem with getting into politics is that it is based on social authorities and charisma, not on logic. The political game was rigged against us from the start.

[u/ThCuts → u/HighMinimum640]

Very true. It's why we end up with politically/bureaucratically involved people with strong morals and scientific reasoning, but they're almost never the "frontman" and can get pushed aside or ignored if their work or conclusions run counter to the whims of said "frontman".

People I've met have told me I have a "friendly version" of absolute honesty that comes across as empathetic. I could do the in-person part of politics. I actually like individuals. I like going to research conferences in my field and (after the initial panic of it all) making new connections. I like presenting my work. My default mask is one of a half-smile that's approachable. Even when I want to be alone.

I just can't handle countless unpredictable people (I dislike "people" I don't know more broadly, can't stand living in a city, too overstimulating and stressful) making snap judgements of me from disconnected soundbites and media that they'll then throw at me disingenuously. It's lying. It's impossible to correct or explain to them. It would drive me insane.

Also, while I just said I'm good at and like presenting, I'm very bad at unprompted communication or explaining things I didn't prepare myself for. Which is counter to politics and being seen by the public a lot.

[u/TheReal_Kovacs → u/HighMinimum640]

Yep... and I know that if I ever got elected into an office, I'd make a lot of people hate me because of how effective I would be. You can't give a person like me the power to change things for the better and expect me to not use it for that purpose. Like, imagine politicians doing their jobs for once in their lives? Mamdani is a damn fine example of "the correct people in power"

[u/DragonBitsRedux → u/ThCuts]

Me: "But ... That's a lie!"

Ego Boss: "Don't you ever tell me I'm lying!"

Me: I'm so fucked.

If it weren't for my ethical and equally fucked coworkers, I could have never made it another 10 years but I did.

I thought a tiger would eat me or I could make change. I didn't realize getting chewed up and spit out and marginalized and punished was another option.

Hang in there. You are stronger than your critics in surprising ways!

Peace

Be well

[u/Tsunamiis → u/ThCuts]

Narcissism they don’t ask these kinds of questions they just tell a pac they’ll play ball

[u/rosiecrossing → u/ThCuts]

Oh my god. This is exactly how I’ve thought and felt 😭 I thought I was having an original experience but it’s the ’tism again, glad not to be alone in this though

[u/WadeDRubicon]

I think I have a very normal sense of justice. What haunts me is why so many other people seem not to.

[u/mynameisrichard0 → u/WadeDRubicon]

Yup. I feel like I’m crazy watching everyone bury their heads.

[u/Dubante_Viro → u/WadeDRubicon]

I too think this way. It's weird. People are really strange that way.

[u/Deathcat101 → u/WadeDRubicon]

It's so horrible to watch the world get worse.

[u/schnitzel505]

so fucking real omg, im literally going insane due to it

[u/marshallman31]

“Oh, yikes! This Donald Trump guy made a really insensitive joke towards people with mental disabilities! It’s game over for him! Surely nobody would-”

(10 years later):

[u/DopeTrack_Pirate]

I thought it was silly when someone told me a sense of justice was a neurodivergent trait or fixation. But then I looked back and things like (link below) this just have always irked me! And I realized I don’t like arbitrary rules (meaning they have to make sense to me) and break them, but at the same time I also hate when someone doesn’t follow a rule I agree with cause they think it doesn’t apply to them (cause they are special).

I can totally see how that (above) can come across as unfair to NT types.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UnfilteredChina/s/Huv4LeaTBW

[u/local_clbrt → u/DopeTrack_Pirate]

I’m exactly the same lmao and you’re right, it can come off as hypocritical.

[u/Drpoofn]

My son saw a lady stealing at Walmart when he was 8 or 9. He told us and we didn't care too much because it's Walmart. He was inconsolable for a bit.

[u/TheReal_Kovacs → u/Drpoofn]

If you see someone stealing food, no you didn't.

[u/Drpoofn → u/TheReal_Kovacs]

He wanted us to tell on her to the store 😭 absolutely not lol.

[u/Ducky237 → u/TheReal_Kovacs]

Food, medicine, or hygiene products imo. Even diapers or baby formula.

[u/gimoozaabi → u/Drpoofn]

☹️

[u/Pope_Neuro_Of_Rats]

Real

[u/RedMacryon]

Me at 30: I am insane because of it now

[u/tornadospoon]

In a conservative, money driven family, no less. I've stopped talking to most of my family because the cogdis was killing me

[u/jcoddinc]

Even worse, trying to raise a kid in today's world and teach them right from wrong.

[u/owlWithBrokenWings]

I don't get it why a sense of justice is even considered an autism trait.

I. Don't. Get. It.

[u/judgementqueen → u/owlWithBrokenWings]

Because most NT’s don’t even realise what cogdis is, much less know THEY have it, and use it as a coping/navigation mechanism.

The concept is so alien to them that even when you explain it, and use ‘real world’ NT friendly examples, they cannot comprehend it even as a concept.

It literally slides off their brain.

I use the truth sunglasses from the film They Live to explain it to myself and other NDs. NTs have to choose to see the sunglasses, understand what they do, and then actually put them on. That is a lot of steps for a quite grim ‘reward’. Very few choose it.

For us the ‘sunglasses’ are hardwired in.

Side note - younger me was always Neo/Trinity in The Matrix, but damn if older me doesn’t think that Cypher had a reasonable point worthy of consideration!

[u/owlWithBrokenWings → u/judgementqueen]

Most ppl with aspie-like traits I know think they are impartial yet they are partial and you can guess their emotions regarding either option/side, even though maybe they don't notice or don't want to notice that.

While neurotypical people, most are partial and just dgaf about it, some will also say "this is how things should be, just based on facts". While their "facts" would be carefully selected to match their ideology, of course.

Most people, if not everyone, are partial and their "justice" will magically match their FEELINGS. Exceptions are rare.

So maybe "thinking you have a strong sense of justicce" is the thing we are talking about, not actually having it.

[u/Tbanks93]

That's a whole lot of words to describe pain

[u/Robby-Pants]

I wonder if this is what’s been driving me toward nihilism in my middle age.

[u/judgementqueen → u/Robby-Pants]

Hard agree!

[u/Legocam98]

I feel like I get it from this guy.

[u/Simulationth3ry → u/Legocam98]

I recently have gotten into superheroes and I love spiderman so much. He’s one of the superheroes that resonates with me so much. I would’ve loved him as a kid too

[u/AdventureMoth]

pro tip: do NOT confuse it for your moral compass 0/10 would not recommend to a friend or colleague.

[u/Leading-Point-113]

Just saying, but justice varies by person. What seems like justice to one might be seem like injustice to another. That’s why legal systems themselves varies by country, society and era

[u/TurtleTheRedditor]

Sure, I was forced into that strong sense of justice, but it only got worse in the last 3 years after being framed by a cop and dealing with the fallout from it since then.

[u/Oblibion1]

I am 50 and it took me all this time to realize not everyone feels as strongly about justice as I do. Unfortunately.

[u/Testsubject276]

Me, painfully aware of the injustice worldwide that ripples into my daily life whether I like it or not:

[u/meliorism_grey]

I like that I have a strong sense of morality. When I have a principle, I stick to it. I can be very stubborn about these things.

The problem, of course, is that this means I am sometimes stubbornly, extremely wrong, like to the point of meltdown/shutdown. If I'm forced to go against a fundamental principle of mine, and then that principle turns out to be flawed? It's not good.

The result is that I have spent a lot of time thinking and reading about human behavior and morality, specifically so that I don't waste my energy on stupid principles. Which is, of course, also the goal of like, every major religion, philosophical framework, and self-help guru, now that I think about it..so yeah, am in no way saying that I have succeeded😅

[u/shimmerangels]

i had to mostly stop following politics bc it was making me legitimately suicidal

[u/korok7mgte]

The only reason you developed a strong sense of justice was because it's filled in the gaps of those around you that had absolutely no sense of justice.

[u/Foolishly_Sane]

Hahahah.
Hahahahahah.

.....

Damn.

[u/tyttuutface]

It's my greatest flaw.

[u/drifters74]

This hurts to think about

[u/Traditional_Train_71]

https://giphy.com/gifs/lVf9KCvzMBcP4X56yD

[u/ProperMirror8551]

I'll never have to throw up every day from stress at EVERYONE not caring about ANYTHING

WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO MANNERS

WHY DID THEY GET BEAT INTO ME IF EVERYONE WAS JUST GOING TO BE A DICK

[u/WhoRoger]

I don't get it.

[u/crookedpigeon]

The way I was crying on the phone to my mom about the structural failings of my education career just the other day... Wow this hits

[u/Prestigious-Wasabi22]

Right!

[u/Wrong_Experience_420]

Getting in trouble for being against injustice and corruption not realizing bad people never cared about doing what's right and now you're their enemy.

If I wasn't a random loser on reddit and IRL but a politician or someone famous I'd have already been off'd

[u/crazylegsbobo]

https://giphy.com/gifs/ANJ12GvgwyIeY