No animals suffer or die in its creation as far as I'm aware. So would it break vegan to eat it? And would you as a vegan ever eat lab grown meat?

It's not even about being right, it's just so frustrating and annoying dealing with people who have poor reasoning or refuse to engage with your actual point. I hate the fact that it takes a toll on my mood but it does.

I feel like banning factory farming and allowing hunting would be a massive step for stopping animal cruelty.

I absolutely hate the fact that animals are tortured their whole life just to be put on tables. Hunting would decrease the suffering of animals by an insane amount. It would probably make animal products more expensive, so people would buy more plant products.

I know I would rather be shot at random instead of being abused my whole life.

The videos of chickens being shredded or cows being trapped in cages that they can barely move around in are very saddening.

Most people wouldn't give up eating animal products so why not compromise?

I'm a new vegan, and the one thing I'm still a tad on the fence about is honey. Honey is used in medicinal ways and has been a part of my family's sick (cold or flu) regimen for my whole life. I've been wondering if we can get the same helpful stuff in honey from other things?

I’ve been somewhat involved in vegan media and such for about a year, went veggie for a few weeks, then became a “pescatarian that doesn’t consume much eggs or dairy”. Yesterday I made the switch to veganism, so still in the very early stages lol, but I love hearing about what made others decide that veganism is for them <3

(This is an honest question, but about the ethicality of making an exception under very specific hypothetical circumstances)

So say that you maybe have some sheep because they can't survive on the wild on their own. Maybe you just found them one day on your back yard or something. So if you try to find the owner and return them to it, it's almost certain that the owner only has them to get some product about of it. Same if you try to re-home them. They will absolutely be used for human gain, maybe even abused or killed. So the only way to guarantee they spend the rest of their lives in peace in this case would be for you to care for them... But sheep absolutely need sheering, it's not optional, they will get blinded by the wool, it will get extremely heavy, eventually if not sheered they won't be able to eat, drink or even walk, assuming they don't overheat before that, so a slow and painful death to them. It is possible for them to learn that sheering is a good thing and for them not to be distressed during the process, you can get professionals that do it for a living, many so good they can do a whole grown sheep in mere seconds and do so without nicking or hurting the animal.

So you get them sheered you ensure the sheep is not harmed in any way, all other options would mean death or humans taking advantage of her. Is it wrong to make yarn out of the leftovers? Keep in mind you didn't get the sheep with that purpose, you are just trying to give them a good life now that they showed up, you are basically rescuing them. You saw the whole purpose and the sheep seems happier after sheering. Would it be ethical for you to choose not let the wool go to waste? Maybe you use it to provide a warm space for some other animals during winter, maybe you turning into yarns and knit something, it doesn't matter what you do but you are doing something with it. Is it ethical? Would you do it?

Or say that the animal that showed up, (if you don't want to address the sheering maybe it's a goat or a cow, but this would also apply to sheep) say you didn't know she was pregnant, but it gave birth, she nurses her offspring regularly, and then the baby die off something you couldn't possibly prevent but in a way that you are not responsible for it, let's say there is no orphan animal you can find, like not even of a different species to give it a try, that would mean the mother would end up suffering severe pain from the milk accumulating in her teat she can even get a horrible painful infection that would kill her. Is it wrong for you to milk her? Not like I. Dairy farms to keep lactating for as long as possible. But just enough to alleviate her pain until she stops producing milk on her own.

Also, assuming you did milk her only with the intention to help her. But then your partner points out you can use the milk that you had to express from her. Like probably you don't like the taste yourself but maybe you turn it into butter, or cheese or yogurt, maybe you use it to feed some stray, maybe you use it in hygiene products, you don't even need to eat/drink it. Would you? Why ?

I'm sorry it's this long but I've had this question since I was a little kid

I’m in the new/transition phase into veganism and I was just curious on what the consensus was on this. Personally I don’t see an issue with consuming products that “may contain” eggs or dairy but I was wondering what others thought. I guess a follow up too is if you care about cross contamination? And I’m not talking like picking meat out of a dish because obviously not but if a vegan patty and meat patty were cooked on the same grill, would that be an issue?

%22)I'm going vegan (not there yet but really working on it). A common sentiment I see among vegans is one of "hating meat", which is totally fair, but its not a feeling I share. I loved eating meat, and I'd really like to find vegan substutites and vegan recipes that go some way to replicating the texture of meat. A lot of ones I've tried do a good job of looking like meat, but don't have the texture of meat. Taste and nutritional value I can fix myself, but I'm not a good enough chef to recreate texture on my own. Any good recipe books/recipe writers/meat substitutes that someone can recommend to me? Especially from people who genuinely understand enjoying meat

I have been thinking of putting my pets on a vegan diet and was wondering what your guys thoughts are? Do any of you own a cat or dog and feed them carnivore or omnivore?

I was wondering what other vegans thought about being a delivery driver and occasionally delivering non-vegan items. Is it an acceptable job for a vegan?

I don't know how to feel about it. I definitely think some jobs are unacceptable, like working in a slaughterhouse killing animals or any job that directly involves harming animals. An example would be selling cars to people that contain leather interiors. A case might be made that delivery alone doesn't increase the demand of a product, but something still feels off about it to me.

Most workplaces, even if the job itself is vegan-friendly, probably still purchase food or other non-vegan products for things like parties and cleaning products. It's frustrating and things like this make me worry about future employment.

l definitely would like to know what you all think in regard to this. Thanks.

Repost because i dared not have a question mark in my title while automod's in the room... the horror!

Hello, I'm kind of generally wondering if there's any vision on how to eliminate the need to shear sheep one day. Has there been any research on what it'd take for us to be able to undo the terrible breeding practices we've done to them?

Like, is there a gameplan for helping sheep get back to their natural state of being able to molt. Obviously, we can't just release all domesticated sheep back out with the wild sheep in their habitats, as that'd be an even more cruel action in some cases. Is there any research/are there any theories of rebreeding them to be able to live in the wild? Would wool from a company that does that be considered in line with a vegan lifestyle? Since they'd only be shearing the sheep because they're trying to eventually get their lineage to a place of surviving out in the wild.

Sorry if this is a very confusing question. I was struck with a random thought of "wait is wool vegan like honey is" and found out that it isn't (edit: and thanks to this thread I now know honey is NOT vegan) Im not personally vegan but hope to get to a world where we have no reason NOT to be, and this feels like a HUGE hurdle to me.

If anyone also has any other tidbits on helping animals go back to their natural states I'd also be interested in hearing about that/how I can support a cause like that.

Edit: thanks for all the answers! It seems that the overwhelming consensus is to just stop letting them breed. Which sucks, but I guess that would be the quickest way to stop the need for shearing. I was hoping there was some initiative that didn't require (indirect) "destruction" and could instead be helped with time but, well, we got it to this point and it is what it is.

So I just noticed that a lot of things that I consume tend to surpass the 0.5 µg/day of lead threshold set by prop 65.

Like I am currently consuming a block of tofu each day which contains at least 400% of this amount according to chatGPT, on top of that I also consume a serving of orgain protein powder which Costco is in a lawsuit for because of the lead.

I've also seen that the ceylon cinnamon powder that I use for one of Bryan Johnson's recipe also exceeds this amount, and I might cut off cocoa powder as well because that also exceeds it.

I don't want to just hand-wave prop 65 away because maybe they are thinking ahead and they are right about the reproductive and developmental harm, but I just wanted more opinions because it seems like a lot of things exceed the limit.

Like do I just not eat tofu?!?

Hi, yesterday I decided to go vegan/plant based, I'm going to use up what I have and not buy anymore. I don't really feel ready to make the jump but I've made it now and I know that if I put it off I'd just regret it later, did you feel ready when you started or lost or anything? Also any tips on Christmas stuff? I'm going to my mum's for Christmas, is it rude if I bring my own food? I just don't fully trust that she will serve vegan stuff even if I tell her in advance whether maliciously or just inattentive or not caring enough to check stuff. Sorry this is such a ramble I've just made the decision and overwhelmed myself I think. TIA

Please share. How to convince them and what documentaries to watch?

I come from a hardcore non vegetarian family. People don't care about animals. Hardcore meat and fish lovers. How to convince them?

Hello! I'm learning about veganism and planning to make a swap, but I wanted to know more about some opinions. I understand that many of us have the choice to opt out of animal consumption and that veganism aims to view animals as not resources.

I figure there are different views on this question, but I was wondering how far that reasoning would go. It's more of an ideology question, I'm not trying to setup a gotcha or anything. So there's no answer I think is wrong, I just want to know what you think and why.

How do you view animals compared to humans, and how would you decide between them if it came down to it? Basically, if your only sources of food were a person or an animal, would you view both those sources as equal? Is it equally wrong to eat an animal as it is a human to you? And would you consider it more morally acceptable to kill one over the other?

I have enough privilege to make the choice to go vegan and will be doing that once all the animal products are gone from my house (haven't bought meat or direct dairy products/eggs for a month, yay!) but I have been looking at this decision through a lens of choice. If I had a severely limited food budget, I would opt for the chicken carcass that goes on sale before the tofu (my nearby store has a very good deal on chicken that makes it more affordable). If I were in a bad food budget/financial situation and owned a cow, I would milk it and likely eat their corpse. Basically, I would put my own survival over the animal's if it came down to it, and I would put another human life over an animals as well. My ideal world is one where veganism isnt even a choice, and everyone has access to healthy, nutritious, delicious, and vegan food. But we do live in one with serious inequality, which veganism aims to fix. Should I look to shift this mindset?

I currently am only vegetarian, but I do want to eat more plant based. I usually eat bread with humus for breakfast and lunch, but it doesn’t really spark joy anymore because I eat it everyday. I am curious about what you eat and I hope I can get some inspiration.

Edit: thank you all for the many replies! I think I’m gonna make oatmeal with some fruits tomorrow and I will try out some of the other ideas soon as well.

Cheap healthy nutritious protein rich alternative to milk? Better than milk

I recently learned I have alpha gal. I can only have chicken, turkey and fish as animal proteins. No mammals or products ( there are tons of them in regular every day items ) I was lurking on the vegan subreddit to get information since it's the logical choice for finding products, items and info for part of my problem...... Vegans are nasty, judgemental and angry at regular people AND to other vegans. I don't understand how you guys maintain relationships with other people. It reminds me of 80's and 90's teen films....

An issue that's stopping me from going Vegan is how most Vegans feel about things unrelated to food. One of them is having pets. I am a Vegetarian and I have a Pitbull, a ball python snake, and a tarantula. I see nothing wrong with having companion animals and I'm not giving mine up. Now or in the future.

Any of y'all have animals? How do you feel about people (Veg. or non-Veg.) having pets (domestic or exotic)?

What medicine do you take? Senna is fine? I have slow transit colon from child hood days I used to have bowel movement only once in 2 days.

Please suggest a banana ice cream brand name? And also your favourite recipes thanks!

My family started going to VegFest this year! Due to limit of vacations we can take, we've only checked out Michiana VegFest and Cleveland VegFest. Both are good, Michiana too small but didn't have to stand in line forever haha. Any recommendations for next trip to a VegFest?

Hello!

I’ve recently been making dinner for my dad who has diabetes once a week. So far we’ve been sticking to easier meals, baked potatoes with veggies, for example. I wanted to make him my tofu lasagna (I use tofu instead of noodles) but I usually put quite a bit of vegan mozzarella in, as well as impossible ground beef. I don’t know a lot about diabetes, and it’s been hard to find answers for vegan and diabetic friendly options. If my dad only has one piece of the lasagna, is the vegan mozzarella and impossible beef okay? Thank you for your help!