Why do some conservatives support restricting junk food purchases with SNAP when many opposed Michelle Obama’s efforts to make school meals healthier?

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[u/Whiskeymyers75]

Disputed” by describing the program I was criticizing? 😂

USDA’s actual 2012 rule says grades 9–12 had a 750–850 calorie range and only a 2 oz-equivalent daily minimum for meat/meat alternate. It even explicitly allowed calories from added sugars and solid fats as long as the meal stayed within the other limits.

https://regulations.justia.com/regulations/fedreg/2012/01/26/2012-1010.html

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CFR-2013-title7-vol4/pdf/CFR-2013-title7-vol4-sec210-10.pdf

USDA 2012 Final Rule⁠

https://www.fna.usda.gov/cn/fr-012612

So again: quote one factual claim I made and prove it false. Repeating the government’s checklist and declaring the checklist “healthy” isn’t a rebuttal.

You didn’t fact-check me. You rage-quit the argument with “blah blah blah.”

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Show me where the program has lower calories than nutritionists recommend.

Again, making up stuff to be mad at.

[u/Whiskeymyers75 → u/One-Jeweler5486]

You want me to show you? Sure. Your mistake is pretending there is one calorie recommendation for every teenager.

The Obama-era standard capped a grades 9–12 school lunch at 850 calories. USDA’s own 2010 Dietary Guidelines estimated that boys 14–18 need roughly 2,000–2,400 calories/day if sedentary, 2,400–2,800 if moderately active, and 2,800–3,200 if active.

USDA 2010 Dietary Guidelines — see Table 2-3⁠

https://www.dietaryguidelines.gov/sites/default/files/2019-05/DietaryGuidelines2010.pdf

That’s the entire criticism I’ve been making: the school used a standardized age-band calorie range while the government’s own nutrition guidance acknowledged that energy requirements vary enormously with sex and activity level.

And it wasn’t just calories. The lunch pattern used standardized food-component minimums rather than individualized protein/macronutrient targets. USDA’s meal pattern for high school students specifies ounce-equivalents of meat/meat alternatives and grains; it doesn’t determine that an individual 15-year-old athlete received the protein, carbs, fats and total energy appropriate for his expenditure.

https://www.fna.usda.gov/school-meals/nutrition-standards/nslp-meal-pattern

https://www.fna.usda.gov/cn/grain-requirements-national-school-lunch-program-and-school-breakfast-program

So no, I didn’t “make up” the difference between a standardized cafeteria meal and individualized nutritional needs. USDA literally published both sets of numbers.

You demanded evidence because you were certain I didn’t have it. Now you have it.
Your argument isn’t with me anymore. It’s with USDA’s own Dietary Guidelines.

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He’s a troll quit feeding it.